On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, David Huff wrote:
On 01/20/2010 04:23 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Mike McGrath wrote:
I'll start this thread. I'm firmly in the "a cloud is an operations model" camp. It's important because when people say "I want a cloud" and we say "You want ovirt" or "you want eucalyptus." I think that's wrong.
OK, fair enough. But there are also tools that are well suited to support that operations model, and tools that are poorly suited.
If you build good enough tools, they become Technology with a capital T. That's what can happen when the open source model works. Too many folks are trying to start on the Product end, instead of starting on the tools end (and by extension, the users end). My $0.02.
I'm interested in tools approaches that help our users. I think that's the advantage that Fedora can provide -- a group of knowledgeable folks who share and refine the best tools. Red Hat benefits if those tools, over time, emerge into a Product for which Red Hat can sell support.
Tools that help our users do what? It can't be cloud stuff because at that point it's circular reasoning.
-Mike
Well there are three components of cloud stuff
The images that run the guests, the hypervisor, or node.
Cloud management, They manage not only the underlying nodes but also
the guest on the nodes.
- The guests
There are three components of virtualization:
1) The hosts that run the guests
2) A way to manage the guests.
3) The guests.
I hope I don't become that cranky guy. But as someone that's been using virtualization for a long time and get the difference between clouds and virtualization... I see the majority of the planet doesn't see the difference and it bugs me to no end because it causes decisions, planning, resource commitments to be completely misplaced.
-Mike