12:38 p.m.
Hey CommOps!
First off, thanks to everyone who showed, we had a very bustling meeting
with lots of participation. It was exciting to see so much interest and
discussion. :)
Big topics:
* 2016-08-29: Migration from Trac to Pagure
* Putting ideas on membership checks into proposals for voting on
* Current status of our (v)FAD planning
* Creating first edition of FOSS Student Pack
* Next up for on-boarding: Python SIG
Hope to see you all next week!
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora CommOps (2016-08-16)
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Meeting started by jflory7 at 15:59:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-16/commops.2016-...
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda (jflory7, 15:59:16)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-08-16
(jflory7, 15:59:23)
* (1) Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 15:59:28)
* (2) Announcements (jflory7, 15:59:38)
* (3) Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 15:59:43)
* (4) Tickets (jflory7, 15:59:50)
* (5) Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 15:59:55)
* (6) Community Blog (jflory7, 16:00:02)
* (7) Release Schedule (jflory7, 16:00:07)
* (8) Open Floor (jflory7, 16:00:12)
* Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 16:00:23)
* Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jflory7, 16:00:24)
* Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; CommOps, Marketing / Magazine, Ambassadors,
Diversity Team, and more (jflory7, 16:00:44)
* Sachin S. Kamath ; UTC +5.30; GSoC, CommOps, Metrics, etc (skamath,
16:01:09)
* Michael Downey; UTC -7:00; GSoC, commops, marketing, diversity,
you-name-it (downey, 16:02:04)
* Huiren Woo; UTC+8; CommOps, Ambassadors, Marketing (GIANT_CRAB,
16:02:08)
* Trishna Guha; UTC +5:30; Cloud, CommOps, Infrastructure (trishnag,
16:04:57)
* Tummala Dhanvi; UTC +5.30; CommOps, docs, security, * (c0mrad3,
16:07:24)
* Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC +5:30, CommOps, ML, Kernel, RPM Packaging
(dhanesh95, 16:07:28)
* Announcements (jflory7, 16:08:29)
* === New metrics brainstorming wiki page === (jflory7, 16:08:35)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Metrics_Ideas
(jflory7, 16:08:40)
* bee2502 has started working on generating some ideas on community
metric generation. Check out the wiki page with more information on
metric collection with regards to discussion at the CommOps Flock
workshop there. (jflory7, 16:08:47)
* HELP: Feel free to add some of your own ideas, thoughts, or wishes
for metrics to this page too! (jflory7, 16:09:01)
* === "Docs Project update from Flock 2016" === (jflory7, 16:09:07)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/docs-project-update-flock-2016/
(jflory7, 16:09:14)
* On jflory7's "must read list of 2016" - very informative post about
the state of the Fedora Docs team and adds a lot of insight into the
issues they are facing and how they plan to overcome them. If you
haven't been following the Docs team and want to see what's up in a
single post, this is a good one to read. (jflory7, 16:09:24)
* === "Women in technology: Fedora campus presence" === (jflory7,
16:09:34)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/women-technology-fedora-campus-pr...
(jflory7, 16:09:39)
* Outreach efforts towards women are ongoing in local Indian
communities. Read this brief report to see what is getting started
by a2batic and sumantrom. (jflory7, 16:09:47)
* === "Żegnajcie! Fedora Flock 2016 in words" === (jflory7, 16:10:24)
* LINK: https://blog.justinwflory.com/2016/08/fedora-flock-2016/
(jflory7, 16:10:24)
* jflory7's event report on Flock 2016. There's a section dedicated to
the Fedora CommOps workshop and feedback related to the workshop. It
may be worth a read for anyone interested in the workshop and what
kinds of results we got out of holding it. (jflory7, 16:10:34)
* Sayan Chowdhury;UTC+5:30; Infrastructure, Cloud, CommOps, Marketing,
Ambassadors etc. (sayan, 16:11:12)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/12 (skamath,
16:14:44)
* Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 16:15:28)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-09/commops.2016-...
(jflory7, 16:15:34)
* How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no
status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jflory7,
16:15:43)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Write a promo on the CommBlog about the
ultimate women's Fedora t-shirt === (jflory7, 16:17:22)
* ACTION: downey Edit original UnixStickers shirt article to include
links / mentions of the women's sizes / editions too (jflory7,
16:17:46)
* === [INCOMPLETE] skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the
mailman bug === (jflory7, 16:17:59)
* ACTION: skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the mailman bug
(jflory7, 16:18:04)
* === [IN PROGRESS] jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report /
update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop === (jflory7, 16:18:10)
* ACTION: jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on
the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop (jflory7, 16:18:21)
* jflory7 and bee2502 did some parsing of info on Saturday from the
workshop, but there's still a little more to do - jflory7 needs to
start a draft in the CommBlog next (jflory7, 16:18:27)
* === [IN PROGRESS] jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the
CommBlog === (jflory7, 16:18:34)
* ACTION: jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
(jflory7, 16:18:40)
* This is getting done every week, but there's a consistent amount of
more coming in each week for new posts and authors, which is
awesome. :) (jflory7, 16:18:49)
* === [IN PROGRESS] jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse
it into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog
posts / metrics / etc.) === (jflory7, 16:18:59)
* ACTION: jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into
more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts /
metrics / etc.) (jflory7, 16:19:09)
* jflory7 and bee2502 did some parsing of info on Saturday from the
workshop, but there's still a little more to do - jflory7 needs to
start a draft in the CommBlog next (jflory7, 16:19:15)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback
for Ambassadors from workshop === (jflory7, 16:19:27)
* ACTION: jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for
Ambassadors from workshop (jflory7, 16:19:39)
* === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Close ticket#80 === (jflory7, 16:19:45)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/80 (jflory7,
16:20:30)
* === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Follow up with nardasev ASAP on whether this
one is still good to publish post-Flock === (jflory7, 16:20:44)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/commops@lists.fedoraproject...
(jflory7, 16:20:51)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Update guide for writing a new article
based on what's actually happening in 2016 now === (jflory7,
16:20:58)
* ACTION: jflory7 Update guide for writing a new article based on
what's actually happening in 2016 now (jflory7, 16:21:05)
* Tickets (jflory7, 16:22:06)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/9 (jflory7,
16:22:11)
* === Ticket #81 === (jflory7, 16:22:32)
* "Migrating to Pagure" (jflory7, 16:22:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/81 (jflory7,
16:22:45)
* It is now possible for us to migrate from Trac to Pagure (the
importer tool was recently completed by cverna). A staging repo of
what the import looks like exists on the Pagure staging instance.
Since we now have the tooling, we should set a hard date for
migrating the entire Trac over to Pagure and begin retiring it.
Rough timeline detailed in ticket. (jflory7, 16:22:51)
* LINK: https://stg.pagure.io/stg-fedora-commops/issues (jflory7,
16:22:57)
* IDEA: Migration date: Mon, 2016 Aug 29? +1/0/-1? (jflory7,
16:23:03)
* AGREED: CommOps Trac will migrate to Pagure on 2016-08-29 - more
details to come soon, watch mailing list for info (jflory7,
16:26:33)
* === Ticket #78 === (jflory7, 16:26:45)
* "Automating a check-in to evaluate activity of members" (jflory7,
16:26:51)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/78 (jflory7,
16:27:02)
* Two ways to do it: Infra-style with a manual post sent monthly, or
could use Fedocal to automate this once a month as check-in calendar
event to query members on regular, consistent basis. Non-responders
would be removed from the FAS group hypothetically. Need to discuss
implementation and if this is something we want to do. (jflory7,
16:27:07)
* IDEA: Would this be necessary for active members to also complete
every month? Is it better to separate into two "groups" -
apprentices and regular members? (jflory7, 16:27:13)
* IDEA: Blatantly removing people is the wrong approach: it will be
demotivating and isolate people from wanting to contribute
(jflory7, 16:35:26)
* IDEA: If any kind of consistent follow-up is to be done, it really
should be automated so it will always be consistent (jflory7,
16:35:43)
* IDEA: Start in a beginner group, then move to an "alumni" group for
contributors who are consistent and active (i.e. they no longer have
to do the regular check-in) (jflory7, 16:36:21)
* IDEA: A single ping is easy to miss and it could cause someone still
interested to be left out (jflory7, 16:36:37)
* IDEA: Responding to one email may not be the best gauge of activity
/ contributions, so makes it difficult to use as a tool to evaluate
merits (jflory7, 16:37:06)
* IDEA: Every team could have "three big things" an active person
does, follow up on them around a 3-month interval, judge inactivity
on those criteria (jflory7, 16:37:56)
* IDEA: Automated tools don't flag some for removal, but just review /
follow-up (jflory7, 16:38:22)
* IDEA: Instead of removing contributors, "retire" them - could
de-provision by removing from group, but note them somewhere along
with their contributions, kind of like a wall of fame sort of idea
(jflory7, 16:40:24)
* LINK:
https://gist.github.com/robbyoconnor/376099ee735985fede7e6c14e072db7c
(jflory7, 16:40:29)
* ACTION: jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor
discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
(jflory7, 16:42:03)
* AGREED: Lots of ideas and discussion on this ticket - jflory7 will
sort through these ideas, try turning them into separate proposals,
and then we can vote on them at the next meeting (jflory7,
16:42:39)
* === Ticket #10 === (jflory7, 16:44:09)
* "CommOps vFAD 2016" (jflory7, 16:44:15)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/10 (jflory7,
16:44:19)
* Based on Flock outcome, likely reasonable to begin planning out our
own FAD event. Can opt for an in-person FAD at first, and if
necessary, fall back to virtual event. Would be held in 2017 (after
February / March when budget for next fiscal year allocated). First
steps would be for defining purpose and matching up to outcomes and
results that align with Fedora mission. We can start now by using
mattdm's logic model template and (jflory7, 16:44:26)
* ...identifying key areas for us to focus on as team. (jflory7,
16:44:36)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/FedoraLogicModelTemplate (jflory7,
16:44:41)
* ACTION: jflory7 Remove Ticket #10 from meeting agenda, collaborate
with bee2502 on sorting through feedback / ideas from Flock
(jflory7, 16:47:28)
* === Ticket #70 === (jflory7, 16:49:39)
* "FOSS Student Pack" (jflory7, 16:49:45)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/70 (jflory7,
16:49:50)
* Key thing to get out of this is less on physical / costly items,
more on providing resources / tools to point people towards
contributing to open source and subsequently Fedora, e.g. IRC
client, bouncer service, development tools, software in Fedora,
etc.) (jflory7, 16:49:56)
* IDEA: Key to the gate: FAS account (guide to register and what a FAS
account gives you access to) (jflory7, 16:50:55)
* IDEA: Java IDE: Eclipse (jflory7, 16:51:00)
* IDEA: IRC client: HexChat (IRC beginner guide, how to use HexChat,
etc.) (jflory7, 16:51:07)
* IDEA: Photo editing: DarkTable (what it does, guides for using it,
etc.) (jflory7, 16:51:14)
* IDEA: Creating Fedora USB media: Whatever the preferred tool now is
for creating media correctly and with stability (Fedora Media
Writer?) (jflory7, 16:51:20)
* IDEA: IRCCloud temporary membership / full account as part of the
starter pack? [Warning: This would be a relationship we would have
to actively maintain] (jflory7, 16:54:55)
* IDEA: Starting small by identifying the "Fedora Essentials 101" for
what a student would need for Linux / FOSS (jflory7, 16:58:22)
* HELP: What tool helped you get started with Linux and FOSS? What
made Fedora so great for you? What could we offer students to help
introduce to FOSS, Linux, and then Fedora? Please add your ideas and
thoughts to the ticket so we can start building a first edition of
the pack! (jflory7, 17:01:18)
* === Tickets #34 === (jflory7, 17:02:58)
* #34: "[Onboarding Series] [MASTER TICKET] Creating sub-project
on-boarding badge series" (jflory7, 17:03:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/34 (jflory7,
17:03:18)
* Infrastructure ticket put on hold while current blocking issues are
resolved. More detail in the ticket. For now, we need to decide and
focus on a new sub-project / team to focus on. jflory7 would like to
propose the Python SIG as a team that is in need of some assistance
and help. Having difficulties on-boarding new members effectively.
Need to find ways for communicating this better and how to make it
simpler for getting involved. See (jflory7, 17:03:25)
* ...rough notes for Flock as a primer on this one. (jflory7,
17:03:33)
* LINK: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/flock-2016-commops-workshop
(jflory7, 17:03:39)
* IDEA: Target focusing on Python SIG as next team to assist? +1/0/-1?
(jflory7, 17:05:01)
* AGREED: Will focus on Python SIG next for helping with on-boarding
process - jflory7 to file the ticket for them soon (jflory7,
17:08:05)
* Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 17:08:50)
* ACTION: commops New members, make sure you add your timezone /
interests on CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
(jflory7, 17:08:56)
* Community Blog (jflory7, 17:12:12)
* How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was
published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that
are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened
for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go! (jflory7,
17:12:23)
* === This Week in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:15:26)
* (1) "Women in technology: Fedora campus presence" (jflory7,
17:15:32)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/women-technology-fedora-campus-pr...
(jflory7, 17:15:39)
* Total Views (Aug. 12 - Aug. 16): 178 (jflory7, 17:15:45)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&...
(jflory7, 17:15:50)
* (2) "Heroes of Fedora 23 bonus: Test Days" (jflory7, 17:15:57)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-fedora-23-bonus-test-days/
(jflory7, 17:16:05)
* Total Views (Aug. 14 - Aug. 16): 30 (jflory7, 17:16:12)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&...
(jflory7, 17:16:17)
* (3) "Docs Project update from Flock 2016" (jflory7, 17:16:29)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/docs-project-update-flock-2016/
(jflory7, 17:16:35)
* Total Views (Aug. 15 - Aug. 16): 138 (jflory7, 17:16:54)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&...
(jflory7, 17:17:04)
* === Coming Up in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:17:10)
* (1) "FOSS wave: Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India" (scheduled:
2016-08-18, 8:15 UTC) (jflory7, 17:17:20)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2096&preview=1&_ppp=29...
(jflory7, 17:17:26)
* (2) "List of Flock blogs and more" (jflory7, 17:17:32)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2185&preview=1&_ppp=37...
(jflory7, 17:17:38)
* Ready to publish, but pending feedback from cwickert for final
review (jflory7, 17:18:16)
* (3) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Alpha" (jflory7, 17:18:27)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2091&preview=1&_ppp=38...
(jflory7, 17:18:33)
* (4) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F24 Beta" (jflory7, 17:18:38)
* LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2142&preview=true
(jflory7, 17:18:45)
* (5) "FOSS Wave Delhi , IN" (jflory7, 17:18:54)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2145&preview=1&_ppp=6f...
(jflory7, 17:19:00)
* (6) "Onboarding Kickoff - Fedora QA, Bhopal" (jflory7, 17:19:07)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2188&preview=1&_ppp=38...
(jflory7, 17:19:13)
* (7) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - Fedora 24 Final" (jflory7, 17:19:19)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2184&preview=1&_ppp=a7...
(jflory7, 17:19:26)
* (8) "Python 3 porting: 50% done in Rawhide" (jflory7, 17:19:31)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2141&preview=1&_ppp=df...
(jflory7, 17:19:38)
* (9) "Event Report: WWFS-FWD'2016, Kolkata" (jflory7, 17:19:48)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2046&preview=1&_ppp=e0...
(jflory7, 17:19:54)
* (10) "Fedora 24 Release Party in Singapore!" (jflory7, 17:19:59)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2010&preview=1&_ppp=3e...
(jflory7, 17:20:05)
* (11) "Modularity Infrastructure Design" (jflory7, 17:20:13)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2154&preview=1&_ppp=9d...
(jflory7, 17:20:18)
* Open Floor (jflory7, 17:23:16)
Meeting ended at 17:30:47 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* downey Edit original UnixStickers shirt article to include links /
mentions of the women's sizes / editions too
* skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the mailman bug
* jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock
2016 CommOps workshop
* jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
* jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more
accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics /
etc.)
* jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from
workshop
* jflory7 Update guide for writing a new article based on what's
actually happening in 2016 now
* jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion,
form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
* jflory7 Remove Ticket #10 from meeting agenda, collaborate with
bee2502 on sorting through feedback / ideas from Flock
* commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on
CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* commops
* commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on
CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
* downey
* downey Edit original UnixStickers shirt article to include links /
mentions of the women's sizes / editions too
* jflory7
* jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock
2016 CommOps workshop
* jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
* jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more
accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics /
etc.)
* jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors
from workshop
* jflory7 Update guide for writing a new article based on what's
actually happening in 2016 now
* jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion,
form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
* jflory7 Remove Ticket #10 from meeting agenda, collaborate with
bee2502 on sorting through feedback / ideas from Flock
* skamath
* skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the mailman bug
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