12:31 p.m.
Hi all!
Par for the course, today was a very full meeting. We spent a lot of
time covering details on the needs of the Python SIG for on-boarding
(based on discussions at Flock), migrating some tools in the CommOps
toolbox to a single place, and also details about some of the discussion
with the wikieditor FAS group.
More information is all available in the logs. Also, I will be proposing
moving the meetings starting 30 minutes ahead due to sudden changes in
my schedule - more on that in a separate email. Thanks everyone for
coming out today!
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Meeting ended Tue Aug 23 17:24:01 2016 UTC.
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora CommOps (2016-08-23)
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Meeting started by jflory7 at 15:58:40 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-23/commops.2016-...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda (jflory7, 15:58:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-08-23
(jflory7, 15:59:01)
* (1) Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 15:59:05)
* (2) Announcements (jflory7, 15:59:09)
* (3) Action items from last meeting (jflory7, 15:59:16)
* (4) Tickets (jflory7, 15:59:20)
* (5) Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 15:59:26)
* (6) Community Blog (jflory7, 15:59:30)
* (7) Open Floor (jflory7, 15:59:34)
* Roll Call / Q&A (jflory7, 15:59:40)
* Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jflory7, 15:59:44)
* Sachin S. Kamath; UTC +5.30; GSoC, Metrics, CommOps (skamath,
16:00:06)
* Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; CommOps, Marketing / Magazine, Ambassadors,
Diversity Team, Join SIG, and more (jflory7, 16:00:10)
* Michael Downey; UTC -7:00; CommOps, Marketing, also <3 for gsoc,
docs, design, * (downey, 16:00:54)
* John M. Harris, Jr.; UTC-4; CommOps, Games SIG, Java SIG (JohnMH,
16:01:42)
* Announcements (skamath, 16:01:43)
* Wesley Otugo; GMT +1 (wesleyotugo, 16:01:43)
* === Fedora 25 Alpha Release: 2016-08-30 === (skamath, 16:01:49)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule
(skamath, 16:02:04)
* The current targeted date for the Fedora 25 Alpha is for August 30,
2016. (skamath, 16:02:08)
* === "List of Flock blogs and more" === (skamath, 16:02:28)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/list-of-flock-blogs-and-more/
(skamath, 16:02:34)
* Brief overview of Flock 2016 with links to individual contributor
blog posts and reports about the event. Good way to reflect / review
on discussions and focuses from Flock or to see what happened if you
were not able to attend. (skamath, 16:02:45)
* === "FOSS wave: Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India" === (skamath,
16:03:02)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/foss-wave-bhopal-madhya-pradesh-i...
(skamath, 16:03:13)
* Ongoing efforts to introduce FOSS, Fedora Quality Assurance, and
testing to students across India. Sumantro Mukherjee (sumantrom) is
helping lead these efforts. Watch for more information on the
Community Blog in coming weeks! (skamath, 16:03:23)
* === REMINDER: Pagure migration, 2016-08-29 === (skamath, 16:03:33)
* Reminder that the migration from Trac to Pagure is targeted for
Monday, August 29th, 2016. We will be abandoning Trac soon. More
information to come. (skamath, 16:03:42)
* Action items from last meeting (skamath, 16:05:05)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/commops/commops.2016-08-16-15.59....
(skamath, 16:05:13)
* How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action it if needed. If no
status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (skamath,
16:05:20)
* === [INCOMPLETE] downey Edit original UnixStickers shirt article to
include links / mentions of the women's sizes / editions too ===
(skamath, 16:05:33)
* ACTION: downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph
into article (skamath, 16:06:37)
* === skamath file a ticket on fedmsg repo for the mailman bug ===
(skamath, 16:06:44)
* LINK:
https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/issues/399
(skamath, 16:07:18)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report /
update on the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop === (skamath, 16:07:59)
* ACTION: jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on
the Flock 2016 CommOps workshop (skamath, 16:08:31)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it
into more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts /
metrics / etc.) === (skamath, 16:08:43)
* ACTION: jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into
more accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts /
metrics / etc.) (skamath, 16:08:51)
* === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the
CommBlog === (skamath, 16:09:09)
* ACTION: jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
(skamath, 16:09:21)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback
for Ambassadors from workshop === (skamath, 16:09:35)
* ACTION: jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for
Ambassadors from workshop (skamath, 16:10:06)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for
writing a new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
=== (skamath, 16:10:29)
* ACTION: jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a
new article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
(skamath, 16:10:38)
* === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old
contributor discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next
meeting === (skamath, 16:11:38)
* ACTION: jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor
discussion, form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
(skamath, 16:11:45)
* === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Remove Ticket #10 from meeting agenda,
collaborate with bee2502 on sorting through feedback / ideas from
Flock === (skamath, 16:12:15)
* Tickets (skamath, 16:15:02)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/report/9 (skamath,
16:15:11)
* === Ticket #78 === (skamath, 16:15:18)
* "Automating a check-in to evaluate activity of members" (skamath,
16:15:23)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/78 (skamath,
16:15:29)
* AGREED: Due to lots of raw ideas and discussion from last week's
meeting, would like to defer further discussion until there are more
solid proposals to discuss / agree on (jflory7, 16:24:00)
* === Ticket #34 === (jflory7, 16:25:14)
* "[Onboarding Series] [MASTER TICKET] Creating sub-project
on-boarding badge series" (jflory7, 16:25:19)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/34 (jflory7,
16:25:24)
* Last meeting, we agreed that next target group (outside of final
follow-up on tickets awaiting badges) would be the Python SIG due to
discussions that happened at the CommOps workshop at Flock 2016
(jflory7, 16:28:06)
* Background on the Python SIG: Around 20 members, handles reviewing
Python packages in Fedora, deals with Python-specific technical
decisions in Fedora, also sometimes handles security-critical issues
with Python packages in Fedora (jflory7, 16:29:24)
* Noted at Flock that the on-boarding process for new members has
difficulties: Unclear process for newcomers to follow,
distinguishment between mailing lists (one public, one private for
security bugs) unclear, need more items to be able to help guide
newcomers to, sometimes there are "human" decisions that need to be
made when reviewing new applicants (jflory7, 16:31:09)
* IDEA: Revamping wiki page / establishing numbered steps for
newcomers to follow to become involved (jflory7, 16:31:49)
* IDEA: Making it clear what info is needed from newcomers for current
members of the SIG to understand what newcomers are familiar with,
interested in contributing towards, or able to do (jflory7,
16:32:17)
* IDEA: Coming up with creative solutions for how something that
sometimes requires a subjective, "human" review process to follow
general guidelines or points for evaluating newcomers (with context
to revealing security bugs or issues) (jflory7, 16:33:21)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python (jflory7,
16:35:26)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedorapr...
(jflory7, 16:35:41)
* LINK:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/group::python-sig/
(jflory7, 16:35:53)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python/Members_list
(jflory7, 16:36:17)
* LINK: http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/ (jflory7, 16:36:30)
* IDEA: Improving communication about Python SIG member list being on
the wiki over a FAS group (and that's the official source for people
involved with the Python SIG) (jflory7, 16:45:05)
* IDEA: An apprentice-esque type approach for newcomers to Python
SIG??? (jflory7, 16:45:23)
* === Ticket #82 === (jflory7, 16:47:55)
* "Move CommOps toolbox to Pagure" (jflory7, 16:48:00)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/82 (jflory7,
16:48:04)
* ACTION: skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an
official migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure
since it has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to
jflory7's knowledge, anyways ;) ) (jflory7, 16:54:00)
* ACTION: jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his
tools in the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the
CommOps group (jflory7, 16:54:46)
* Wiki Gardening (jflory7, 16:56:45)
* ACTION: commops New members, make sure you add your timezone /
interests on CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
(jflory7, 16:56:52)
* wikieditor FAS group: Group created not as a default "join to get
access" kind of context, but more for edge cases where it's more
plausible to add them to a standalone FAS group versus onboarding in
a group (also might not have a FAS group). Example used was remixer
who maintains a wiki page but nothing else. (jflory7, 17:03:20)
* Community Blog (jflory7, 17:05:40)
* How This Works: There is a quick blast of information about what was
published in the past week with some metrics, followed by posts that
are being drafted. After the information blast, the floor is opened
for any Community Blog-related discussion. Here we go! (jflory7,
17:05:48)
* === This Week in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:05:53)
* (1) "FOSS wave: Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India" (jflory7, 17:05:58)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/foss-wave-bhopal-madhya-pradesh-i...
(jflory7, 17:06:04)
* Total Views (Aug. 18 - Aug. 22): 18 (jflory7, 17:06:10)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&...
(jflory7, 17:06:16)
* ACTION: jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave
article for Bhopal (jflory7, 17:06:22)
* (2) "List of Flock blogs and more" (jflory7, 17:06:27)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/list-of-flock-blogs-and-more/
(jflory7, 17:06:31)
* Total Views (Aug. 18 - Aug. 22): 54 (jflory7, 17:06:36)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&...
(jflory7, 17:06:41)
* === Coming Up in CommBlog === (jflory7, 17:06:56)
* (1) "FOSS Wave: Delhi, India" - scheduled 2016-08-23 (jflory7,
17:07:03)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2145&preview=1&_ppp=14...
(jflory7, 17:07:09)
* (2) "Fedora 24 Release Party in Singapore" - scheduled 2016-08-24
(jflory7, 17:07:15)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2010&preview=1&_ppp=1d...
(jflory7, 17:07:21)
* (3) "Modularity Infrastructure Design" - scheduled 2016-08-25
(jflory7, 17:07:33)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2154&preview=1&_ppp=71...
(jflory7, 17:07:39)
* (4) "Say No to Wiki SPAM!" (jflory7, 17:07:45)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2208&preview=1&_ppp=1c...
(jflory7, 17:07:50)
* ACTION: jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current
situation with FAS groups (jflory7, 17:08:01)
* (5) "Globalization improvements in Fedora 24" (jflory7, 17:08:07)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2212&preview=1&_ppp=00...
(jflory7, 17:08:13)
* (6) "Modularity and Containers" (jflory7, 17:08:20)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2235&preview=1&_ppp=4d...
(jflory7, 17:08:25)
* (7) "What are Personas and Why Should you Care?" (jflory7,
17:08:30)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2230&preview=1&_ppp=33...
(jflory7, 17:08:35)
* (8) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Alpha" (jflory7, 17:08:41)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2091&preview=1&_ppp=98...
(jflory7, 17:08:46)
* (9) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Beta" (jflory7, 17:08:56)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2142&preview=1&_ppp=40...
(jflory7, 17:09:01)
* (10) "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) - F24 Final" (jflory7, 17:09:06)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=2204&preview=1&_ppp=0c...
(jflory7, 17:09:10)
* Open Floor (jflory7, 17:19:29)
Meeting ended at 17:24:01 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into
article
* jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock
2016 CommOps workshop
* jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more
accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics /
etc.)
* jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
* jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors from
workshop
* jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new article
based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
* jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion,
form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
* skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official
migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it
has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's
knowledge, anyways ;) )
* jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his tools in
the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the CommOps group
* commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on
CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
* jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave article for
Bhopal
* jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current situation
with FAS groups
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bee2502
* jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock
2016 CommOps workshop
* jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more
accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics /
etc.)
* commops
* commops New members, make sure you add your timezone / interests on
CommOps wiki [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps ]
* downey
* downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into
article
* jflory7
* downey Ping jflory7 for editing article / adding paragraph into
article
* jflory7 Work with bee2502 on writing a report / update on the Flock
2016 CommOps workshop
* jflory7 bee2502 Take workshop feedback and parse it into more
accessible data (e.g. tickets / commits / CommBlog posts / metrics /
etc.)
* jflory7 Review emails for pending posts on the CommBlog
* jflory7 File tickets for Python SIG, add feedback for Ambassadors
from workshop
* jflory7 Update Community Blog writing guide for writing a new
article based on what's actually happening in 2016 now
* jflory7 Sort through ideas on reviewing old contributor discussion,
form proposals in the ticket, share at next meeting
* skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official
migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it
has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's
knowledge, anyways ;) )
* jflory7 Reach out to decause about the idea of migrating his tools
in the CommOps toolbox to Pagure and granting access to the CommOps
group
* jflory7 Do a social media blast promoting the FOSS Wave article for
Bhopal
* jflory7 Revisit wiki spam article with context of current situation
with FAS groups
* skamath
* skamath File a ticket in Fedora Infra Trac for proposing an official
migration from fedora-infra GitHub organization into Pagure since it
has stabilized since the last time this was discussed (to jflory7's
knowledge, anyways ;) )
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* downey (12)
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