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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 31 Mar '20

31 Mar '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-04-01 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-03-25
by Dusty Mabe 25 Mar '20

25 Mar '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-25/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-25/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-25/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by bgilbert at 16:31:45 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-25/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (bgilbert, 16:31:51) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:35:58) * no action items from last meeting \o/ (dustymabe, 16:36:24) * RFC: Adding a Network TUI (dustymabe, 16:36:48) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/427 (dustymabe, 16:36:55) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/bare-metal/#_installing_… (dustymabe, 16:58:18) * dustymabe will record a summary of this discussion in ticket #427 (dustymabe, 17:18:42) * AGREED: Right now we'd like to explore the implementation of using the live ISO installer environment to present a TUI to the user to see if that solves the pain points for our users (dustymabe, 17:22:22) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:22:40) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/432 (dustymabe, 17:27:10) Meeting ended at 17:37:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (104) * bgilbert (49) * shivarammysore (32) * zodbot (23) * red_beard (19) * cyberpear (15) * jlebon (15) * darkmuggle (12) * lorbus (9) * rfairley (4) * jbrooks (2) * davdunc (2) * skunkerk (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 24 Mar '20

24 Mar '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-03-25 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-03-18
by Dusty Mabe 18 Mar '20

18 Mar '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-18/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-18/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-18/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:29:50 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-18/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:29:55) * Fedora CoreOS content for Community Central for RH Virtual Summit (dustymabe, 16:34:45) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/416 (dustymabe, 16:34:51) * dustymabe will update #416 with suggestions for talk/demo for the Red Hat Summit virtual event and ask about deadline for such content (dustymabe, 16:57:43) * talks for upcoming conferences (dustymabe, 16:58:57) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/420 (dustymabe, 16:59:04) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/421 (dustymabe, 16:59:11) * Integrate FCOS better into the existing Fedora release process (dustymabe, 17:08:03) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/426 (dustymabe, 17:08:11) * LINK: https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/browser (jlebon, 17:17:55) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/blob/master/stream-tooling.… (dustymabe, 17:18:17) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:29:18) Meeting ended at 17:33:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (104) * jlebon (35) * zodbot (19) * cyberpear (13) * davdunc (13) * red_beard (10) * bgilbert (9) * miabbott (2) * ksinny (2) * skunkerk (1) * mnguyen_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Re: Emerging editions, Fedora 32 Beta, and bureaucracy
by Dusty Mabe 17 Mar '20

17 Mar '20

On 3/17/20 2:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey Adam, <snip> > > 3) CoreOS - CoreOS is just a *whole* other thing. It is not built like > the rest of Fedora at all. It's not built as Pungi composes, whatever > compose process it does have doesn't run alongside our other compose > processes or output to the same locations, it's like a whole other > product. It also doesn't seem to be terribly well documented (I can't > find any detail on the wiki, docs sites, or any of the git repos I > happen to know of) or even introspectable - for instance, ISO locations > look like > https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/prod/streams/stable/builds/31.20200… > , but if you try and browse around that tree by visiting URLs like > https://builds.coreos.fedoraproject.org/prod/streams/ , you just > get 'Access Denied'. So if the process appears to have broken down and > some poor monkey like me is left trying to help people figure out where > they can get a 'Fedora CoreOS 32' image to try - it isn't very easy. > Right now I simply have no clue if there is something you could > reasonably call 'Fedora CoreOS 32 Beta' or a decent analogue of it. You have reasonable points here. I do agree that the current state of integration between Fedora CoreOS and the rest of Fedora is not quite complete. Part of the reason for this is that we've been working hard on building Fedora CoreOS from the ground up and getting it out the door. There are two things here worth being explicit about: 1. Fedora CoreOS is today not composed by pungi on Fedora infra. It is composed using coreos-assembler[1] in CentOS CI. I think this fundamental difference is the root to a lot of the mystery here surrounding FCOS. People integrated into Fedora processes are familiar with pungi and how it works. OTOH, I'm sure not many of us are familiar with coreos-assembler. 2. Fedora CoreOS follows a rolling release model, where by design, we don't want people to care about whether they're on f31 or f32 (at least in principle). For FCOS, the f32 update just goes out like any other update when we're ready to do the cutover. Thus, sentences like "Fedora CoreOS 32" don't have quite the same meaning as for e.g. Workstation or Server. That said, Fedora CoreOS does have more streams than just stable and testing, and one of those streams should be $((N+1))-based. So we definitely could have some marketing/banners/whatever to point people at. Right now there is not yet a F32 based coreos, but there will be soon as part of our `next` stream [2]. That said, we know there is work to do to make things better understood and more predictable from the rest of Fedora's point of view. Note that there was a lot of hard work to integrate and participate in more Fedora processes as Fedora Atomic Host matured. Know that this work will come as we finish building out the more foundational pieces of Fedora CoreOS. We have opened a discussion ticket [3] for this in our issue tracker, which is where our meeting topics get sourced from and our discussions generally take place. [1] https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler [2] https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/283 [3] https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/426.

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 17 Mar '20

17 Mar '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-03-18 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2020-03-11
by Dusty Mabe 11 Mar '20

11 Mar '20

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-11/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-11/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-11/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:31:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-03-11/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:31:32) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:37:06) * Garbage collection policy for OS releases (dustymabe, 16:37:58) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/99 (dustymabe, 16:38:05) * we agree that we should prune things. we have limited the scope for now to non-production streams of FCOS. jlebon will add more info to #99 about the next steps (dustymabe, 16:54:31) * Consider adding kernel command-line argument for automatically logging in on console (dustymabe, 16:54:42) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/112 (dustymabe, 16:54:48) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/access-recovery/ (jlebon, 17:01:04) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/coreos-installer/commit/15a79263d0bd5d72056a6080f… (dustymabe, 17:17:09) * we'll investigate allowing the use of `single` with a locked root account to see if that gives us the ergonomics we want for debugging user's issues (dustymabe, 17:18:55) * Kubernetes requires conntrack binary (dustymabe, 17:22:58) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/404 (dustymabe, 17:23:05) * punting the conversation on this to a later meeting. will ask user for more clarification for now (dustymabe, 17:28:40) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:30:08) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/416 (dustymabe, 17:31:13) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/420 (dustymabe, 17:31:21) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/421 (dustymabe, 17:31:32) * We have Red Hat Summit (now a virtual event), devconf.us, and Flock upcoming later this year please consider what we (the FCOS community) can do to contribute to these events see details in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/416 https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/420 https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/421 (dustymabe, 17:32:39) * support for 4k drives coming in https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/pull/1130 (dustymabe, 17:40:09) Meeting ended at 17:40:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (125) * jlebon (40) * bgilbert (25) * zodbot (19) * cyberpear (12) * bcotton (9) * jdoss (4) * skunkerk (4) * slowrie (2) * walters (2) * darkmuggle (1) * miabbott (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Reminder: meetings are in UTC time
by Dusty Mabe 11 Mar '20

11 Mar '20

Hi all, This is a reminder our meetings are in UTC time and stay at the same UTC time year round regardless of daylight savings time. Please check your local time for 16:30 UTC and adjust any calendar invites you may have created. Note that you can subscribe to the community meeting on our CoreOS calendar in FedoCal (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/CoreOS/#m9437) by clicking the `iCal export` link and importing that into your calendaring software of choice. Also you can request to be pinged before the meeting starts each time by adding your name to this list: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/blob/master/meeting-people.… Dusty

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 10 Mar '20

10 Mar '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2020-03-11 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9437/

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Connecting containers to a OVS bridge
by Shivaram Mysore 06 Mar '20

06 Mar '20

Hello, I would greatly appreciate some pointers/answers to the below questions: *Questions*: 1. On CoreOS, what is the best way to connect containers to this OVS bridge created on a container? 1. Note: the model applied on standard linux install of OVS to move a container namespace does not work here. 2. What does it mean to have DPDK enabled OVS for OVS to be running on Containers. *Background:* I have been able to successfully create containers running Open vSwitch which are operational on Fedora Core OS. https://github.com/servicefractal/ovs https://hub.docker.com/r/shivarammysore/ovs I also gave a talk about it: Running OVS on Containers <https://www.openvswitch.org/support/ovscon2019/#7.1L> (Shivaram Mysore, Service Fractal) PDF <https://www.openvswitch.org/support/ovscon2019/day2/1305-mysore.pdf> Video <https://youtu.be/EWzwtj7edOc> Thanks & Regards /Shivaram

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