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Bug ID: 1553702 Summary: Digit zero with an oblique strike instead of inside dot Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: liberation-fonts Assignee: psatpute@redhat.com Reporter: mailinglists35@gmail.com QA Contact: extras-qa@fedoraproject.org CC: alexl@redhat.com, fonts-bugs@lists.fedoraproject.org, i18n-bugs@lists.fedoraproject.org, john.j5live@gmail.com, mbarnes@fastmail.com, mclasen@redhat.com, petersen@redhat.com, psatpute@redhat.com, rhughes@redhat.com, rstrode@redhat.com, sandmann@redhat.com
Description of problem:
I'd wish to have a version of the monospaced font (Liberation Mono) where digit zero has an oblique strike instead of inside dot.
The dot version makes it difficult to me to distinguish it from the digit eight
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
How reproducible: looking at the display
Steps to Reproduce: 1. look at digit zero displayed with Liberation Mono font 2. 3.
Actual results: See a version with a dot in the middle of the shape
Expected results: See a version with an oblique strike crossing the shape
Additional info:
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Pravin Satpute psatpute@redhat.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from vishal vijayraghavan vvijayra@redhat.com --- Hi Mai,
Dot in middle of the shape zero looks good but sure if there is any ambiguity between digit zero and digit eight will definitely fix that.
Can you please add a screen shot for the mentioned issue.
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--- Comment #2 from Mai Ling mailinglists35@gmail.com --- I don't think is there any ambiguity for regular people.
I am myopic and I find much easier to distinguish sign zero from sign eight when zero has an oblique strike instead of dot.
Providing screenshot would be irelevant, since you would need to see how the image is formed on my retina vs how the image is formed on the screen... but attaching anyway: 0 from libration mono versus 0 from apple's Menlo
https://i.imgur.com/tqIRaod.png https://i.imgur.com/IHIWEs0.png
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--- Comment #3 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com --- A real screenshot would help to see how you are using the font...
Anyway I tend to agree that the slant is more legible.
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--- Comment #4 from Mai Ling mailinglists35@gmail.com --- what do you mean by "real" screenshot? the above I've uploaded to imgur are pretty real, and I've spent quite some office time to set it up, including time spent to find a similar font!
do you mean to provide screenshot of a block of text containing the digit? a word editor? a ssh connection? what else is "real"?
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--- Comment #5 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com --- I mean a screenshot at actual size - obviously no ambiguity at the large sizes you posted.
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--- Comment #8 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com --- Well you said earlier screenshot would not help anyway. I was just see a reallife instance when this is affecting you.
The feeling is that Liberation should not diverge from other mainstream Office fonts, so it might be unlikely we can make this change.
If you still feel this is unreasonable maybe it is better to move this discussion to https://github.com/liberationfonts/liberation-fonts. :-)
Have you tested with the newer liberation-fonts-2.0 ?
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--- Comment #7 from Mai Ling mailinglists35@gmail.com ---
I mean a screenshot at actual size
is this issue blocked on a screenshot?
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--- Comment #9 from Mai Ling mailinglists35@gmail.com --- Created attachment 1489576 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1489576&action=edit look at line 22:23:48
see a screenshot where it is hard to tell if it's zero or eight loom around lines 22:23:45-22:23:58
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--- Comment #10 from Jens Petersen petersen@redhat.com --- Thanks for the photo: I can see what you mean (though a png screenshot from the computer would be clearer I suppose).
But this leads me to a question: why are you using Liberation fonts as your terminal font? There are probably better clearer fonts for terms.
For example Dejavu is clearer: it has no dot or line for zero - so the distinction between 0 and 8 is even clearer.
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