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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=984428
Bug ID: 984428
Summary: Serbian glyphs need improvement
Product: Fedora
Version: 19
Component: liberation-fonts
Severity: unspecified
Priority: unspecified
Assignee: psatpute(a)redhat.com
Reporter: alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com
QA Contact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
CC: fonts-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
petersen(a)redhat.com, psatpute(a)redhat.com
Hello everybody,
This is a follow-up to bug 657849, concerning Serbian localised glyphs.
The issues are as following:
1) Serbian Italic TE has an en-dash above instead of the expected em-dash.
2) Serbian Regular/Italic BE is identical to Greek DELTA, which is bad, the
tail above shouldn't be descending like in Greek DELTA but rather straight.
3) optional shape for Italic U+0448 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER SHA, glyph shape is
like a Serbian Italic TE, but with an em-dash UNDERNEATH, instead of above.
The image I attached shows the expected glyph shapes, the three columns show
respectively: Russian upright forms, Russian italic forms and Serbian italic
forms; the letter are respectively: BE, PE, GE, DE, TE, SHA
Regards,
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--- Comment #1 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 773598
--> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=773598&action=edit
BE, PE, GE, DE, TE, SHA
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Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
--- Comment #2 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Thanks for reporting this bug. I am working on Liberation fonts this and next
week. Hoping to resolve this bug soon.
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--- Comment #3 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #0)
Hello everybody,
2) Serbian Regular/Italic BE is identical to Greek DELTA, which is
bad, the
tail above shouldn't be descending like in Greek DELTA but rather straight.
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/Serbian_BE.png does this make sense?
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--- Comment #4 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #3)
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #0)
> Hello everybody,
>
> 2) Serbian Regular/Italic BE is identical to Greek DELTA, which is bad, the
> tail above shouldn't be descending like in Greek DELTA but rather straight.
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/Serbian_BE.png does this make sense?
Yes! Good job! :)
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--- Comment #5 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Thanks :)
Sans and Sans Narrow done. Will work tomorrow on Serif and Mono.
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What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|ASSIGNED |MODIFIED
--- Comment #6 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Serif and Mono is also done, will be available with the next release.
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--- Comment #7 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #6)
Serif and Mono is also done, will be available with the next release.
Hello Pravin, where can I download the updated font so that I can test it?
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--- Comment #8 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Uploaded ttf version @ http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/ for testing.
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--- Comment #9 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Hello
1) the O-shaped main body of italic Serbian BE stil looks too similar to Greek
DELTA, just make it like the upright style BE, which is OK.
2) I can't see the alternate glyph for SHA? Have you included it in the salt
lookup?
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--- Comment #10 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
I'm sorry, 1) doesn't apply, the italic shape is all right, what was under my
eyes was the former unupdated version, sorry.
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--- Comment #11 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Yeah, that i was about to say.
I can see Alternate SHA shape. it is only applicable for Italic, right?
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--- Comment #12 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
OK, I can see it too, but the space between the dash and the main body is too
little, it should be the same as in TE. The only thing that changes is the
position of the dash, above or underneath.
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--- Comment #13 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Yes, only in Italic shape. OK, I can see it too, but the space between the dash
and the main body is too little, it should be the same as in TE. The only thing
that changes is the position of the dash, above or underneath.
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--- Comment #14 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Actually i tried to keep space between BAR and BASE glyph same between TE and
SHA.
I will again review it and update before release.
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--- Comment #15 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Liberation Serif Bold has no Serbian glyph for SMALL CYRILLIC BE
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--- Comment #16 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 779820
--> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=779820&action=edit
Liberation Serbian Glyphs Test
I've uploaded an attachment with problematic glyphs highlighted in red.
General issues:
* With the exception of Sans Narrow, the dash above Italic PE is always too
short, it needs to cover the main body in its entirety
Liberation Serif:
* Bold lacks localised glyph for BE
* Italic SHA: bar too close to the main body
Liberation Sans Narrow:
* Italic & Bold Italic PE protrudes a bit too much on the right
* Italic & Bold Italic GE dash above badly placed an too long
Liberation Mono:
* Bold lacks localised glyph for BE
* Italic & Bold Italic GE glyphs inappropriate, they look like latin small I
with macron
* Italic & Bold Italic TE and SHA glyphs inappropriate for italic shape
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--- Comment #17 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #16)
Created attachment 779820 [details]
Liberation Serbian Glyphs Test
Liberation Mono:
* Bold lacks localised glyph for BE
* Italic & Bold Italic GE glyphs inappropriate, they look like latin small I
with macron
* Italic & Bold Italic TE and SHA glyphs inappropriate for italic shape
This is how Liberation Mono is designed.
If still you need improvement please give me reference shapes, should it be
like Sans? But i will recommend using the existing shape as it follows Mono
style.
I have fixed all other issues. update fonts available @
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/
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--- Comment #18 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #17)
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #16)
> Created attachment 779820 [details]
> Liberation Serbian Glyphs Test
>
> Liberation Mono:
> * Bold lacks localised glyph for BE
> * Italic & Bold Italic GE glyphs inappropriate, they look like latin small I
> with macron
> * Italic & Bold Italic TE and SHA glyphs inappropriate for italic shape
This is how Liberation Mono is designed.
If still you need improvement please give me reference shapes, should it
be like Sans? But i will recommend using the existing shape as it follows
Mono style.
I have fixed all other issues. update fonts available @
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/
OK, but so, Mono glyphs for PE and perhpas even DE aren't appropriate for Mono
style, they look too "serified", do you get my drift?
I'm going to test the new version and report as soon as possible.
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--- Comment #19 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
My comments about the new version:
* The space between the main body of Italic & Bold Italic GE, PE, TE, and SHA
and the bar is significantly shorter in Sans as compared to Serif. Is it
intended?
* The bar above Italic & Bold Italic Sans Narrow GE is too long.
Other issues have been fixed. For the question of glyphs in Mono, see comment
above.
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--- Comment #20 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
* We can follow same height as used in Serif, will that work?
* Yeah in Sans Narrow that bar is too long, i just used macron glyph, i will
make it shorter.
* I will improve mono shapes as well, will make is same as in Sans, hope so
that will work.
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--- Comment #21 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
1) OK
2) OK
3) I thought you deemed it inappropriate, have you changed you mind now? Why?
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--- Comment #22 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
I am not original designer of Liberation Mono so i am bit reluctant to do
modifications in style itself.
For Serbian we are mostly reusing already existing shapes of Mono, so i thought
will follow that style.
But as your suggestion are Serbian specific, now i think we can follow that.
Please provide me some reference so i can update it.
Other updated fonts are available @ http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/
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--- Comment #23 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Dear Pravin,
I'm afraid I won't be able to provide you with anything since other Mono fonts
normally don't have specific italic shapes, but the advice I can give you is to
make the glyphs more "squared", more like TE and SHA, DE and PE should be
"de-serified", specifically PE should look more or less like TE, just without
the central bar, but it doesn't.
I hope it helps you.
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--- Comment #24 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Yes, i will update Mono PE and DE shape may be tomorrow.
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--- Comment #25 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Updated Mono PE shape, cant do much in DE shape. Update fonts available @
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/
Hoping this will help.
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--- Comment #26 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Pravin Satpute from comment #25)
Updated Mono PE shape, cant do much in DE shape. Update fonts
available @
http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/export/
Hoping this will help.
Hello Pravin,
I'm going to check as soon as possible, meanwhile I suggest you place the SHA
glyph in the cv00 lookup, not salt, because salt is too generic, maybe other
styles or glyphs get activated as well and this is unintended. In a word, treat
it just as a character variant, not as part of an alternate STYLE.
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--- Comment #27 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Not understood. :(
When SHA alternate shape should occur?
When someone using Serbian locale, right?
let me know the test cases so i can tweak it according to requirement.
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--- Comment #28 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
Yes, using Serbian locale, but locl+salt is too generic, it could involve other
variants, maybe also in the Latin range, while locl+cv00 is straightforward and
implies no other variants, just the intended one.
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--- Comment #29 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
I've just tested the glyphs and everything seems all right now, but Mono Italic
& Bold Italic DE still doesn't convince me, it's too "serified" for
me.
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--- Comment #30 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #28)
Yes, using Serbian locale, but locl+salt is too generic, it could
involve
other variants, maybe also in the Latin range, while locl+cv00 is
straightforward and implies no other variants, just the intended one.
Do you mean to use different Open type feature for this?
Sorry but still i am not clear on this, can you provide any reference for this?
patch will be very helpful.
I will work on Mono DE and do release this week.
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--- Comment #31 from Alessandro Ceschini <alessandroceschini.it(a)gmail.com> ---
The feature is called cvxx in OpenType (xx stands for numbers from 00 to 99).
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--- Comment #32 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
Hi Alessandro,
Still not understanding both things :)
Mono Italic and Bold Italic "DE" shape is same like Sans, dunno not getting
your view clearly. Hoping you are talking about U+0434 only.
For CV-xx i am looking for reference implementation but did not found any
example yet.
I think its time to do next release of Liberation fonts, might be you can
report specific bugs for above issues and lets tackle it there separately? and
close these long standing bugs :)
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--- Comment #33 from Alessandro Ceschini <alescesc1986(a)yahoo.it> ---
Hello Pravin,
That's the problem: Mono and Sans are supposed to possess a different set of
glyph aren't they? The fact that the glyphs for DE are identical in Mono and
Sans is no good to me, I think this is understandable.
For information about character variants see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm
Then go to: "Tag: 'cv01' - 'cv99'"
Tell me if you want to report these two issues in another or two other bug
reports and then close this one.
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--- Comment #34 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to Alessandro Ceschini from comment #33)
Hello Pravin,
That's the problem: Mono and Sans are supposed to possess a different set of
glyph aren't they?
No, only difference between Mono and Sans is Mono is mono-width and Sans does
not have that restriction either way both are same.
Yes, what you says is applicable to Sans and Serif fonts.
The fact that the glyphs for DE are identical in Mono and
Sans is no good to me, I think this is understandable.
Problem is i am not understanding what changes do you look in DE Mono shape, so
not clear, if you can draw it on paper and scan it may be i can give better
try. :)
For information about character variants see here:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/features_ae.htm
Then go to: "Tag: 'cv01' - 'cv99'"
Tell me if you want to report these two issues in another or two other bug
reports and then close this one.
Yeah, i think different bugs will be good, i want to do release of Liberation
and will looks for remaining bugs is next release.
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--- Comment #35 from Alessandro Ceschini <alescesc1986(a)yahoo.it> ---
If you say there's no difference between the glyphs, just in width between Sans
and Mono, there's no need to change the glyph. By the way, I was wondering:
wasn't Mono supposed not to have italic glyphs? That's what normally happens in
other fonts, I don't know about your particular policy.
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--- Comment #36 from Alessandro Ceschini <alescesc1986(a)yahoo.it> ---
As far as the character variant is concerned, it's a wish, not a bug. Should I
open a new bug report for it anyway?
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--- Comment #37 from Pravin Satpute <psatpute(a)redhat.com> ---
No, Mono means Mono width, it is specifically required in terminal where fixed
grid structure creates need of mono-width font family.
We can have Mono serif family as well. Ok, in that case we will not consider
this as well bug.
Don't create bug for Variant, i will add it in todo list.
I am happy to do next release now. :)
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--- Comment #38 from Alessandro Ceschini <alescesc1986(a)yahoo.it> ---
I said so because usually Mono fonts are designed in a Courier style without
italic, just slanted typefaces.
OK, so, if you need my help, you know where to contact me.
Good job anyway! ;)
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--- Comment #39 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> ---
liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.fc19
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Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|MODIFIED |ON_QA
--- Comment #40 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> ---
Package liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.fc19:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 19 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing
liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.fc19'
as soon as you are able to.
Please go to the following url:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-15235/liberation-font...
then log in and leave karma (feedback).
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Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|ON_QA |CLOSED
Fixed In Version| |liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.f
| |c19
Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed| |2013-08-25 18:57:01
--- Comment #41 from Fedora Update System <updates(a)fedoraproject.org> ---
liberation-fonts-1.07.3-1.fc19 has been pushed to the Fedora 19 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
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