[Fedora-i18n-list] Testing Simplified Chinese Input

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Leon,

I made a further test on Simplified Chinese Input

Terminal 1:
$ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
$ httx


Terminal 2:
$ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
$ export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
$ kedit/mozilla
or
~/OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/swriter

Non of them can work.  'Ctrl+Space' could not toggle
English/Chinese


$ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit
'Ctrl+Space' toggle English/European

$ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiimf gedit
'Ctrl+Space'  no action

$ rpm -qa | grep iiimf
iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2
.....

B.R.
Stephen



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[Leon Ho]

Hi Stephen,

Is it the similar problem you encountered with other language engines?
Please try again with the solutions we have discussed.

For your case of gedit, please try to use LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 instead of
LANG=zh_CN.UTF

Easiest way to let the OS do the work of running the correct locale and
export the correct variable is to login as the language you want in gdm,
or modify your /etc/sysconfig/i18n or ~/.i18n and restart your X.

Let me know how it goes!

Cheers,
Leon

On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:14 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
>  Hi Leon,
>  
>  I made a further test on Simplified Chinese Input
>  
>  Terminal 1:
>  $ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  $ httx
>  
>  
>  Terminal 2:
>  $ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  $ export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>  $ kedit/mozilla
>  or
>  ~/OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/swriter
>  
>  Non of them can work.  'Ctrl+Space' could not toggle
>  English/Chinese
>  
>  
>  $ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit
>  'Ctrl+Space' toggle English/European
>  
>  $ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiimf gedit
>  'Ctrl+Space'  no action
>  
>  $ rpm -qa | grep iiimf
>  iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2
>  .....
>  
>  B.R.
>  Stephen
>  
>  
>  
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[Stephen Liu]

Hi Leon,

>  Easiest way to let the OS do the work of running the
>  correct locale and
>  export the correct variable is to login as the
>  language you want in gdm, 
Yes, you are correct.

I performed 2 tests to prove it, login as KDE, Trad
Chinese and Simplified Chinese respectively.  Input
Simplified Chinese was without problem, toggling
between English and Pinyin working with [Ctrl+Space]

OOo Writer also worked but I can't do anything on the
4 small parallel retangular boxes, not showing the
name of Input Method.

(Remark: on Trad Chinese, only 2 boxes)

>  or modify your /etc/sysconfig/i18n or ~/.i18n and
>  restart your X. 
$ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG="en_US.iso885915"
SUPPORTED="en_US.iso885915:en_US:en"
SYSFONT="lat0-sun16"
SYSFONTACM="iso15"

$ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
XIM=iiimf-le-xcin

What shall I modify?  Please advise.  TIA

B.R.
Stephen

 
>  On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:14 +0800, Stephen Liu
>  wrote:
>  > Hi Leon,
>  > 
>  > I made a further test on Simplified Chinese Input
>  > 
>  > Terminal 1:
>  > $ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  > $ httx
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Terminal 2:
>  > $ export LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  > $ export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>  > $ kedit/mozilla
>  > or
>  > ~/OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/swriter
>  > 
>  > Non of them can work.  'Ctrl+Space' could not
>  toggle
>  > English/Chinese
>  > 
>  > 
>  > $ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit
>  > 'Ctrl+Space' toggle English/European
>  > 
>  > $ LANG=zh_CN.UTF GTK_IM_MODULE=iiimf gedit
>  > 'Ctrl+Space'  no action
>  > 
>  > $ rpm -qa | grep iiimf
>  > iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2
>  > .....
>  > 
>  > B.R.
>  > Stephen 
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[Leon Ho]

Hi Stephen

>  > or modify your /etc/sysconfig/i18n or ~/.i18n and
>  > restart your X.
>  
>  $ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
>  LANG="en_US.iso885915"
>  SUPPORTED="en_US.iso885915:en_US:en"
>  SYSFONT="lat0-sun16"
>  SYSFONTACM="iso15" 
If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system wide you should change
LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n

>  
>  $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>   
It would be:
XIM=htt

Regards,
Leon

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Leon,

Tks for your advice.

<llch(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: 
>  > $ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
>  > LANG="en_US.iso885915"
>  > SUPPORTED="en_US.iso885915:en_US:en"
>  > SYSFONT="lat0-sun16"
>  > SYSFONTACM="iso15"
>  
>  If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system wide you
>  should change
>  LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put
>  LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n
>  
>  > $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  
>  It would be:
>  XIM=htt 
Whether I have to change both of the abovementioned. 
In doing so, can Chinese Input start automatically on
login KDE/GNOME desktop selecting 'Language session'
as Traditional Chinese/Simplied Chinese

OR

How can I evoke Chinese Input automatically whenever
login KDE/GNOME (Language - Trad Chinese or Simplied
Chinese) instead of starting on terminal/terminals
each time.

TIA

B.R.
Stephen

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[Leon Ho]

>  > If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system wide you
>  > should change
>  > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put
>  > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n
>  > 
>  > > $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  > > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  > 
>  > It would be:
>  > XIM=htt 
You change ~/.i18n for reflecting the locale you want on the user basis,
or change /etc/sysconfig/i18n to reflect on system wide. You don't have
to change both.

>  Whether I have to change both of the abovementioned. 
>  In doing so, can Chinese Input start automatically on
>  login KDE/GNOME desktop selecting 'Language session'
>  as Traditional Chinese/Simplied Chinese
>  
>  OR
>  
>  How can I evoke Chinese Input automatically whenever
>  login KDE/GNOME (Language - Trad Chinese or Simplied
>  Chinese) instead of starting on terminal/terminals
>  each time. 
You don't need to specify any language selection in gdm if you have edit
any of the file above. If you haven't change/modify your system that
relates to xinitrc package, it will help you running different input
methods in X startup based on your locale.

So in general (from easiest to hardest):
1. change language selection in gdm
or
2. change system wide locale thru system-config-language (only support
on the languages you have ticked in anaconda)
or
3. edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n directly to reflect for system wide locale
or
4. edit ~/.i18n to reflect only on specific user's locale

Leon

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Leon,

Tks for your advice.

Now I can evoke Trad/Simplified Chinese Input
automatically after editing ~/.i18n as follow;

$ cat ~/.i18n
XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
XIM=htt

whenever login KDE Trad/Simplified Chinese.

Now I'm continue searching for a solution of applying
Cangjie Input with Simplified Chinese output OR
converting a Trad Chinese document to Simplified
Chinese.

Anyway lot of thanks for your advice and time spent.

B.R.
Stephen

>  
>  > > If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system wide
>  you
>  > > should change
>  > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put
>  > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n
>  > > 
>  > > > $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  > > > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  > > 
>  > > It would be:
>  > > XIM=htt
>  
>  You change ~/.i18n for reflecting the locale you
>  want on the user basis,
>  or change /etc/sysconfig/i18n to reflect on system
>  wide. You don't have
>  to change both.
>  
>  > Whether I have to change both of the
>  abovementioned. 
>  > In doing so, can Chinese Input start automatically
>  on
>  > login KDE/GNOME desktop selecting 'Language
>  session'
>  > as Traditional Chinese/Simplied Chinese
>  > 
>  > OR
>  > 
>  > How can I evoke Chinese Input automatically
>  whenever
>  > login KDE/GNOME (Language - Trad Chinese or
>  Simplied
>  > Chinese) instead of starting on terminal/terminals
>  > each time.
>  
>  You don't need to specify any language selection in
>  gdm if you have edit
>  any of the file above. If you haven't change/modify
>  your system that
>  relates to xinitrc package, it will help you running
>  different input
>  methods in X startup based on your locale.
>  
>  So in general (from easiest to hardest):
>  1. change language selection in gdm
>  or
>  2. change system wide locale thru
>  system-config-language (only support
>  on the languages you have ticked in anaconda)
>  or
>  3. edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n directly to reflect for
>  system wide locale
>  or
>  4. edit ~/.i18n to reflect only on specific user's
>  locale
>  
>  Leon
>  
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[Leon Ho]

On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 17:02 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
>  Hi Leon,
>  
>  Tks for your advice.
>  
>  Now I can evoke Trad/Simplified Chinese Input
>  automatically after editing ~/.i18n as follow;
>  
>  $ cat ~/.i18n
>  XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
>  LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  XIM=htt
>  
>  whenever login KDE Trad/Simplified Chinese. 
You are welcome.
First two lines are pretty much not useful because last two lines
override it and it is suppose XIM=htt anyway for all iiimf input method.

>  
>  Now I'm continue searching for a solution of applying
>  Cangjie Input with Simplified Chinese output OR
>  converting a Trad Chinese document to Simplified
>  Chinese.
>  
>  Anyway lot of thanks for your advice and time spent. 
There aren't any good solution to solve that, basically because the
codepoints are different. You can try something like Big5->GB
converter. 

If you have a Cangjie table (cin format) for simplified chinese, you try
to add it to xcin as well.

Regards,
Leon

>  
>  B.R.
>  Stephen
>  
>  > 
>  > > > If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system wide
>  > you
>  > > > should change
>  > > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put
>  > > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n
>  > > > 
>  > > > > $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  > > > > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  > > > 
>  > > > It would be:
>  > > > XIM=htt
>  > 
>  > You change ~/.i18n for reflecting the locale you
>  > want on the user basis,
>  > or change /etc/sysconfig/i18n to reflect on system
>  > wide. You don't have
>  > to change both.
>  > 
>  > > Whether I have to change both of the
>  > abovementioned. 
>  > > In doing so, can Chinese Input start automatically
>  > on
>  > > login KDE/GNOME desktop selecting 'Language
>  > session'
>  > > as Traditional Chinese/Simplied Chinese
>  > > 
>  > > OR
>  > > 
>  > > How can I evoke Chinese Input automatically
>  > whenever
>  > > login KDE/GNOME (Language - Trad Chinese or
>  > Simplied
>  > > Chinese) instead of starting on terminal/terminals
>  > > each time.
>  > 
>  > You don't need to specify any language selection in
>  > gdm if you have edit
>  > any of the file above. If you haven't change/modify
>  > your system that
>  > relates to xinitrc package, it will help you running
>  > different input
>  > methods in X startup based on your locale.
>  > 
>  > So in general (from easiest to hardest):
>  > 1. change language selection in gdm
>  > or
>  > 2. change system wide locale thru
>  > system-config-language (only support
>  > on the languages you have ticked in anaconda)
>  > or
>  > 3. edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n directly to reflect for
>  > system wide locale
>  > or
>  > 4. edit ~/.i18n to reflect only on specific user's
>  > locale
>  > 
>  > Leon
>  > 
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[Stephen Liu]

Hi Leon,

>  > $ cat ~/.i18n
>  > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
>  > LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8
>  > XIM=htt 
>  First two lines are pretty much not useful because
>  last two lines
>  override it and it is suppose XIM=htt anyway for all
>  iiimf input method. 
OK, I'll erase the line 'XIM=iiimf-le-xcin'.  

Regarding the 2nd line 'LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8' and 3rd line
'LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8', is there any solution so that
Login either Traditional or Simplified Chinese,
Chinese-Input will be immediately available instead of
changing the position of these 2 lines each time.

>  > Now I'm continue searching for a solution of
>  applying
>  > Cangjie Input with Simplified Chinese output OR
>  > converting a Trad Chinese document to Simplified
>  > Chinese.
>
>  There aren't any good solution to solve that,
>  basically because the
>  codepoints are different.  
Noted with thanks

>  You can try something like
>  Big5->GB
>  converter. 
Is there a Big5>GB or vice versa converter in FC2 or
Open Source.  When I was in M$Windows World this
solution was rather simple only with a click.

>  If you have a Cangjie table (cin format) for
>  simplified chinese, you try
>  to add it to xcin as well. 
Please advice in more detail about Cangjie table (cin
format) for Simplified Chinese, where can I find it.

TIA

B.R.
Stephen

>  > 
>  > > 
>  > > > > If you want to use zh_TW.UTF-8 on system
>  wide
>  > > you
>  > > > > should change
>  > > > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, if not, you can put
>  > > > > LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 into your ~/.i18n
>  > > > > 
>  > > > > > $ cat /home/satimis/.i18n
>  > > > > > XIM=iiimf-le-xcin
>  > > > > 
>  > > > > It would be:
>  > > > > XIM=htt
>  > > 
>  > > You change ~/.i18n for reflecting the locale you
>  > > want on the user basis,
>  > > or change /etc/sysconfig/i18n to reflect on
>  system
>  > > wide. You don't have
>  > > to change both.
>  > > 
>  > > > Whether I have to change both of the
>  > > abovementioned. 
>  > > > In doing so, can Chinese Input start
>  automatically
>  > > on
>  > > > login KDE/GNOME desktop selecting 'Language
>  > > session'
>  > > > as Traditional Chinese/Simplied Chinese
>  > > > 
>  > > > OR
>  > > > 
>  > > > How can I evoke Chinese Input automatically
>  > > whenever
>  > > > login KDE/GNOME (Language - Trad Chinese or
>  > > Simplied
>  > > > Chinese) instead of starting on
>  terminal/terminals
>  > > > each time.
>  > > 
>  > > You don't need to specify any language selection
>  in
>  > > gdm if you have edit
>  > > any of the file above. If you haven't
>  change/modify
>  > > your system that
>  > > relates to xinitrc package, it will help you
>  running
>  > > different input
>  > > methods in X startup based on your locale.
>  > > 
>  > > So in general (from easiest to hardest):
>  > > 1. change language selection in gdm
>  > > or
>  > > 2. change system wide locale thru
>  > > system-config-language (only support
>  > > on the languages you have ticked in anaconda)
>  > > or
>  > > 3. edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n directly to reflect
>  for
>  > > system wide locale
>  > > or
>  > > 4. edit ~/.i18n to reflect only on specific
>  user's
>  > > locale
>  > > 
>  > > Leon
>  > > 
>  > > --
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[Bryan Boot]

Stephen Liu wrote:
>  
> >You can try something like
> >Big5->GB
> >converter.
>  
>  
>  Is there a Big5>GB or vice versa converter in FC2 or
>  Open Source.  When I was in M$Windows World this
>  solution was rather simple only with a click.
>   
This java web page is supposed to be able to do Big5->GB conversions: 
http://www.mandarintools.com/zhcodeweb.html

I used the older perl script that is mentioned on that page to convert 
some Big5 files to UTF-8, which worked well for me.  It should also do 
Big5->GB translations.

-Bryan

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Bryan,

Tks for your advice and links.

- snip -
>  I used the older perl script that is mentioned on
>  that page to convert 
>  some Big5 files to UTF-8, which worked well for me. 
>  It should also do 
>  Big5->GB translations. 
Is it the "urlg2b.zip" package from the link.  Can it
convert Traditional Chinese .doc/.txt documents to
Simplified Chinese

B.R.
Stephen

[Bryan Boot]

Stephen Liu wrote:

> Hi Bryan,
>
> Tks for your advice and links.
>
> - snip -
>   
>
> >I used the older perl script that is mentioned on
> >that page to convert 
> >some Big5 files to UTF-8, which worked well for me. 
> >It should also do 
> >Big5->GB translations.
> >    
> >
>
> Is it the "urlg2b.zip" package from the link.  Can it
> convert Traditional Chinese .doc/.txt documents to
> Simplified Chinese
>   
>  
Yes it is that package.  I have used it on text and html documents, but 
it will likely not work on binary files like .doc .  I just tested the 
Big5 to GB conversion and it works well, i.e., it converted the 
traditional text to simplified.
 
-Bryan

[Chong Kai Xiong]

On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 21:09 -0700, Bryan Boot wrote:
>  Stephen Liu wrote:
>  
>  >Hi Bryan,
>  >
>  >Tks for your advice and links.
>  >
>  >- snip -
>  >  
>  >
>  >>I used the older perl script that is mentioned on
>  >>that page to convert 
>  >>some Big5 files to UTF-8, which worked well for me. 
>  >>It should also do 
>  >>Big5->GB translations.
>  >>     
I usually use iconv:

Basic usage:
  iconv -f from_encoding -t to_encoding file

Big5 to UTF-8: 
  iconv -f big5 -t utf8 input.txt > output.txt

Big5 to GB18030:
  iconv -f big5 -t gb18030 input.txt > output.txt

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[Stephen Liu]

Hi Chong,

Tks for your advice.

Is it following packages
- libtext-iconv-perl
- python2.3-iconvcodec

- snip -    

>  I usually use iconv:
>  
>  Basic usage:
>    iconv -f from_encoding -t to_encoding file 
What is it for?  Is it from Chinese to
Japanese/Arabic/Indonesian/etc. and vice versa

>  Big5 to UTF-8: 
>    iconv -f big5 -t utf8 input.txt > output.txt 
e.g.
File to be encoded = AAA.doc (Big5)
Output file = BBB.doc (utf8)

Whether to run
iconv -f big5 -t utf8 AAA.doc > BBB.doc

TIA

B.R.
Stephen

>  Big5 to GB18030:
>    iconv -f big5 -t gb18030 input.txt > output.txt

[Chong Kai Xiong]

On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 19:34 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
>  Hi Chong,
>  
>  Tks for your advice.
>  
>  Is it following packages
>  - libtext-iconv-perl
>  - python2.3-iconvcodec
>   
The iconv program is provided with the glibc-common package. It uses the
glibc implementation of the iconv_* functions (gconv) and is part of
glibc.

>  What is it for?   
From rom the iconv(1) manpage:
"iconv - Convert encoding of given files from one encoding to another"

I normally use it to convert Big5/GB encoded plaintext documents (eg.
HTML, XML, PO, scripts) to UTF-8.

>  Is it from Chinese to
>  Japanese/Arabic/Indonesian/etc. and vice versa 
You would need a language translation program to 'convert' Chinese to
the languages you listed.

The iconv_* functions (therefore iconv), on the other hand, were
designed to deal with conversion of one character encoding to another. 

With gconv (and I suspect any other iconv implementation), the specific
conversions are implemented in gconv via modules. From what I
understand, it is possible to write a module that does language
translation as part of the conversion process, but I don't believe it's
been done.

>  > Big5 to UTF-8: 
>  >   iconv -f big5 -t utf8 input.txt > output.txt
>  
>  e.g.
>  File to be encoded = AAA.doc (Big5)
>  Output file = BBB.doc (utf8)
>  
>  Whether to run
>  iconv -f big5 -t utf8 AAA.doc > BBB.doc 
Yup, that is correct :)

>  TIA
>  
>  B.R.
>  Stephen 
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[Stephen Liu]

Hi Chong,

>  The iconv program is provided with the glibc-common
>  package. It uses the
>  glibc implementation of the iconv_* functions
>  (gconv) and is part of glibc. 
$ which iconv
/usr/bin/iconv

I found it tks

>  > What is it for?  
>  
>  From rom the iconv(1) manpage:
>  "iconv - Convert encoding of given files from one
>  encoding to another"
>  
>  I normally use it to convert Big5/GB encoded
>  plaintext documents (eg.
>  HTML, XML, PO, scripts) to UTF-8. 
Noted with tks

>  > Is it from Chinese to
>  > Japanese/Arabic/Indonesian/etc. and vice versa
>  
>  You would need a language translation program to
>  'convert' Chinese to
>  the languages you listed.
>  
>  The iconv_* functions (therefore iconv), on the
>  other hand, were
>  designed to deal with conversion of one character
>  encoding to another.  
Noted.

>  With gconv (and I suspect any other iconv
>  implementation), the specific
>  conversions are implemented in gconv via modules.
>  From what I
>  understand, it is possible to write a module that
>  does language
>  translation as part of the conversion process, but I
>  don't believe it's
>  been done. 
$ which gconv
/usr/bin/which: no gconv in
(/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/satimis/bin)

Neither can I find it on Internet

# yum search gconv
Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
....
....
No packages found
Looking in installed packages for a providing package
No packages found

Please advise which package generating 'gconv'

Tks

B.R.
Stephen

[Chong Kai Xiong]

On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 18:45 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:

>  $ which gconv
>  /usr/bin/which: no gconv in
>  (/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/satimis/bin)
>  
>  Neither can I find it on Internet
>  
>  # yum search gconv
>  Gathering header information file(s) from server(s)
>  ....
>  ....
>  No packages found
>  Looking in installed packages for a providing package
>  No packages found
>  
>  Please advise which package generating 'gconv'
>  
>  Tks
>  
>  B.R.
>  Stephen 
The name 'iconv' can actually mean two things:
a. the command line program which I mentioned
b. the iconv() library function [1]

The GNU C Library (glibc) implements the iconv() C function. This
implementation is called gconv. It is not directly usable by end-users.

The iconv command line program uses gconv (part of glibc) to do
conversion. 

Don't worry about it unless you are writing a conversion module[2] for
gconv.

[1] http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/iconv.html
[2] gconv modules are located in /usr/lib/gconv, provided by the glibc
package. 

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[Stephen Liu]

Hi Chong,

Lot of tks for your detail info.

B.R.
Stephen

>  On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 18:45 +0800, Stephen Liu
>  wrote:
>  
>  > $ which gconv
>  > /usr/bin/which: no gconv in
>  >
>  
(/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/satimis/bin)
>  > 
>  > Neither can I find it on Internet
>  > 
>  > # yum search gconv
>  > Gathering header information file(s) from
>  server(s)
>  > ....
>  > ....
>  > No packages found
>  > Looking in installed packages for a providing
>  package
>  > No packages found
>  > 
>  > Please advise which package generating 'gconv'
>  > 
>  > Tks
>  > 
>  > B.R.
>  > Stephen
>  
>  The name 'iconv' can actually mean two things:
>  a. the command line program which I mentioned
>  b. the iconv() library function [1]
>  
>  The GNU C Library (glibc) implements the iconv() C
>  function. This
>  implementation is called gconv. It is not directly
>  usable by end-users.
>  
>  The iconv command line program uses gconv (part of
>  glibc) to do
>  conversion. 
>  
>  Don't worry about it unless you are writing a
>  conversion module[2] for
>  gconv.
>  
>  [1]
>  
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/iconv.html
>  [2] gconv modules are located in /usr/lib/gconv,
>  provided by the glibc
>  package. 
>  
>  -- 
>  Chong Kai Xiong (Descender)
>  
>  GPG public key: 1024D/83EC297C
>  Key fingerprint = 51D6 1C5F 36C9 4428 6933  5239
>  6A45 502B 83EC 297C

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Bryan,

- snip -
>  >Is it the "urlg2b.zip" package from the link.  Can
>  it
>  >convert Traditional Chinese .doc/.txt documents to
>  >Simplified Chinese
>  >  
>  >
>  Yes it is that package.  I have used it on text and
>  html documents, but 
>  it will likely not work on binary files like .doc . 
>  I just tested the 
>  Big5 to GB conversion and it works well, i.e., it
>  converted the 
>  traditional text to simplified. 
Noted with thanks

B.R.
Stephen