Hi,
I'm running FC2 with KDE English locale. I've almost managed to get Japanese input with IIim working, but I'm not all the way there. I've read the whole mailing list archive and tried a lot of things, and as a last resort I'm sending this e-mail.
All latest versions of package installed properly. I use the /etc/init.d/IIim script to start services, services running as follows:
/usr/sbin/cannaserver -syslog -u bin /usr/bin/jserver httx htt_xbe /usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
Note that I modified the IIim script as follows, based on a recommendation from this list: LANG=ja_JP.UTF8 daemon --user htt $HTT $OPTIONS 2>&1 </dev/null
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
When I run Ximian Evolution or any OpenOffice apps, I can right-click and under Input Methods I can choose Internet/Intranet Input Method. When I do so, I get a little tab at the bottom of the window that says "English". However, I can't get it to change to Japanese. I tried Shift-Space, CTRL-Space, ALT-Space and even tried using the Hankaku/Zenkaku key on my Japanese keyboard. Nothing works. Do I have the wrong key combination or is my IIim not properly installed/running?
Hope someone can help.
-jr
PS - Is there a man page or a users guide yet?
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 09:26, morpheus wrote:
When I run Ximian Evolution or any OpenOffice apps, I can right-click and under Input Methods I can choose Internet/Intranet Input Method. When I do so, I get a little tab at the bottom of the window that says "English". However, I can't get it to change to Japanese. I tried Shift-Space, CTRL-Space, ALT-Space and even tried using the Hankaku/Zenkaku key on my Japanese keyboard. Nothing works. Do I have the wrong key combination or is my IIim not properly installed/running?
Seems like the server is installed ok. What about in the /usr/lib/im/leif dir, do you see the CannaLE.so file?
PS - Is there a man page or a users guide yet?
Have a look at the Testing Guide available on the web site at the moment. A newer version will be available very soon.
Lawrence
Thanks. I do have CannaLE.so in /usr/lib/im/leif I've read the testing guide at http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/testing-guide2/ but it doesn't really say how to set up and use IIim, just what types of tests to perform. It says to press CTRL-Space to turn on LE, but that doesn't work for me. -jr
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 03:14, Lawrence Lim wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 09:26, morpheus wrote:
When I run Ximian Evolution or any OpenOffice apps, I can right-click and under Input Methods I can choose Internet/Intranet Input Method. When I do so, I get a little tab at the bottom of the window that says "English". However, I can't get it to change to Japanese. I tried Shift-Space, CTRL-Space, ALT-Space and even tried using the Hankaku/Zenkaku key on my Japanese keyboard. Nothing works. Do I have the wrong key combination or is my IIim not properly installed/running?
Seems like the server is installed ok. What about in the /usr/lib/im/leif dir, do you see the CannaLE.so file?
PS - Is there a man page or a users guide yet?
Have a look at the Testing Guide available on the web site at the moment. A newer version will be available very soon.
Lawrence
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Thanks. I do have CannaLE.so in /usr/lib/im/leif I've read the testing guide at http://www.apac.redhat.com/iiimftest/testing-guide2/ but it doesn't really say how to set up and use IIim, just what types of tests to perform. It says to press CTRL-Space to turn on LE, but that doesn't work for me. -jr
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 03:14, Lawrence Lim wrote:
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 09:26, morpheus wrote:
When I run Ximian Evolution or any OpenOffice apps, I can right-click and under Input Methods I can choose Internet/Intranet Input Method. When I do so, I get a little tab at the bottom of the window that says "English". However, I can't get it to change to Japanese. I tried Shift-Space, CTRL-Space, ALT-Space and even tried using the Hankaku/Zenkaku key on my Japanese keyboard. Nothing works. Do I have the wrong key combination or is my IIim not properly installed/running?
Seems like the server is installed ok. What about in the /usr/lib/im/leif dir, do you see the CannaLE.so file?
PS - Is there a man page or a users guide yet?
Have a look at the Testing Guide available on the web site at the moment. A newer version will be available very soon.
Lawrence
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morpheus wrote:
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
Just putting
XIM=htt
in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session.
You can do this also with the command
$ im-switch -m iiimf
Hth, Jens
Still not working. I get "Internet/Intranet Input Method" as a choice when I right-click in Evolution, and it is selected by default, but when I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed. Also, in my processes, I have:
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
-James
On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 09:34, Jens Petersen wrote:
morpheus wrote:
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
Just putting
XIM=htt
in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session.
You can do this also with the command
$ im-switch -m iiimf
Hth, Jens
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Still not working. I get "Internet/Intranet Input Method" as a choice when I right-click in Evolution, and it is selected by default, but when I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed. Also, in my processes, I have:
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon httx htt_xbe
-James
On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 09:34, Jens Petersen wrote:
morpheus wrote:
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
Just putting
XIM=htt
in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session.
You can do this also with the command
$ im-switch -m iiimf
Hth, Jens
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From: James Ryan jamesr@totalinfosecurity.com I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of
Yes, you need canna installed. That's the language engine used.
You may also want to have gimlet(gnome-im-switcher) installed and run as applet, so that you can select the languages from panel.
Also updating IIIMF packages from Rawhide or http://people.redhat.com/yshao/im-sdk/rpms/ would be good. You can get language switching listings with the key combination <Alt><Ctrl>l or <Alt><Ctrl>s
required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed.
iiimf-le-canna is the interface module for canna.
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
For gtk+ applications, this is fine, because it serves directly to gtk+. (htt is a watchdog for htt_server)
For other XIM applications, you need httx and htt_xbe.(htt_xbe works as if XIM server, httx is a watchdog for htt_xbe)
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
The code to run httx should be already there in default, in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput which refers the environment variable $XIM.
I guess it is just because of canna package is missing?
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt
This should be just export XMODIFIERS="@im=htt"
but Jens said,
Just putting XIM=htt in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session. You can do this also with the command $ im-switch -m iiimf
should be fine.
-- hiura@{freestandards.org,OpenI18N.org,li18nux.org,unicode.org,sun.com} Chair, OpenI18N.org/The Free Standards Group http://www.OpenI18N.org Architect/Sr. Staff Engineer, Sun Microsystems, Inc, USA eFAX: 509-693-8356
Thanks, I installed canna and that didn't help either... As for gimlet, I'm running KDE, so I assume I can't use gimlet. I'm using the latest packages, too. I have removed and re-installed them for good measure. Once again, I have the following processes running: /usr/sbin/htt htt htt_server -nodaemon httx htt_xbe /usr/sbin/cannaserver -syslog -u bin
Should these be run as any particular user? htt and htt_server are running as "htt", httx and htt_xba are running as "root" and canna is running as "bin".
Ctrl-Alt-l Locks my screen (KDE shortcut) Ctrl-Alt-s Does nothing
Mukatsuku....
-jr
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 01:48, Hideki Hiura wrote:
From: James Ryan jamesr@totalinfosecurity.com I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of
Yes, you need canna installed. That's the language engine used.
You may also want to have gimlet(gnome-im-switcher) installed and run as applet, so that you can select the languages from panel.
Also updating IIIMF packages from Rawhide or http://people.redhat.com/yshao/im-sdk/rpms/ would be good. You can get language switching listings with the key combination <Alt><Ctrl>l or <Alt><Ctrl>s
required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed.
iiimf-le-canna is the interface module for canna.
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
For gtk+ applications, this is fine, because it serves directly to gtk+. (htt is a watchdog for htt_server)
For other XIM applications, you need httx and htt_xbe.(htt_xbe works as if XIM server, httx is a watchdog for htt_xbe)
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
The code to run httx should be already there in default, in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput which refers the environment variable $XIM.
I guess it is just because of canna package is missing?
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt
This should be just export XMODIFIERS="@im=htt"
but Jens said,
Just putting XIM=htt in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session. You can do this also with the command $ im-switch -m iiimf
should be fine.
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have you tried CTRL-space which works on me switching between korean and english.
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:02:26PM +0000, morpheus wrote:
Thanks, I installed canna and that didn't help either... As for gimlet, I'm running KDE, so I assume I can't use gimlet. I'm using the latest packages, too. I have removed and re-installed them for good measure. Once again, I have the following processes running: /usr/sbin/htt htt htt_server -nodaemon httx htt_xbe /usr/sbin/cannaserver -syslog -u bin
Should these be run as any particular user? htt and htt_server are running as "htt", httx and htt_xba are running as "root" and canna is running as "bin".
Ctrl-Alt-l Locks my screen (KDE shortcut) Ctrl-Alt-s Does nothing
Mukatsuku....
-jr
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 01:48, Hideki Hiura wrote:
From: James Ryan jamesr@totalinfosecurity.com I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of
Yes, you need canna installed. That's the language engine used.
You may also want to have gimlet(gnome-im-switcher) installed and run as applet, so that you can select the languages from panel.
Also updating IIIMF packages from Rawhide or http://people.redhat.com/yshao/im-sdk/rpms/ would be good. You can get language switching listings with the key combination <Alt><Ctrl>l or <Alt><Ctrl>s
required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed.
iiimf-le-canna is the interface module for canna.
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
For gtk+ applications, this is fine, because it serves directly to gtk+. (htt is a watchdog for htt_server)
For other XIM applications, you need httx and htt_xbe.(htt_xbe works as if XIM server, httx is a watchdog for htt_xbe)
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
The code to run httx should be already there in default, in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput which refers the environment variable $XIM.
I guess it is just because of canna package is missing?
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt
This should be just export XMODIFIERS="@im=htt"
but Jens said,
Just putting XIM=htt in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session. You can do this also with the command $ im-switch -m iiimf
should be fine.
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I meant shift-space On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 04:23:38PM -0500, joseph speigle wrote:
have you tried CTRL-space which works on me switching between korean and english.
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:02:26PM +0000, morpheus wrote:
Thanks, I installed canna and that didn't help either... As for gimlet, I'm running KDE, so I assume I can't use gimlet. I'm using the latest packages, too. I have removed and re-installed them for good measure. Once again, I have the following processes running: /usr/sbin/htt htt htt_server -nodaemon httx htt_xbe /usr/sbin/cannaserver -syslog -u bin
Should these be run as any particular user? htt and htt_server are running as "htt", httx and htt_xba are running as "root" and canna is running as "bin".
Ctrl-Alt-l Locks my screen (KDE shortcut) Ctrl-Alt-s Does nothing
Mukatsuku....
-jr
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 01:48, Hideki Hiura wrote:
From: James Ryan jamesr@totalinfosecurity.com I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of
Yes, you need canna installed. That's the language engine used.
You may also want to have gimlet(gnome-im-switcher) installed and run as applet, so that you can select the languages from panel.
Also updating IIIMF packages from Rawhide or http://people.redhat.com/yshao/im-sdk/rpms/ would be good. You can get language switching listings with the key combination <Alt><Ctrl>l or <Alt><Ctrl>s
required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed.
iiimf-le-canna is the interface module for canna.
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
For gtk+ applications, this is fine, because it serves directly to gtk+. (htt is a watchdog for htt_server)
For other XIM applications, you need httx and htt_xbe.(htt_xbe works as if XIM server, httx is a watchdog for htt_xbe)
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
The code to run httx should be already there in default, in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput which refers the environment variable $XIM.
I guess it is just because of canna package is missing?
My .bash_profile contains: export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" export XMODIFIERS=im=htt
This should be just export XMODIFIERS="@im=htt"
but Jens said,
Just putting XIM=htt in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session. You can do this also with the command $ im-switch -m iiimf
should be fine.
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Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 21:42, joseph speigle wrote:
I meant shift-space On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 04:23:38PM -0500, joseph speigle wrote:
have you tried CTRL-space which works on me switching between korean and english.
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:02:26PM +0000, morpheus wrote:
Thanks, I installed canna and that didn't help either... As for gimlet, I'm running KDE, so I assume I can't use gimlet. I'm using the latest packages, too. I have removed and re-installed them for good measure. Once again, I have the following processes running: /usr/sbin/htt htt htt_server -nodaemon httx htt_xbe /usr/sbin/cannaserver -syslog -u bin
Should these be run as any particular user? htt and htt_server are running as "htt", httx and htt_xba are running as "root" and canna is running as "bin".
Ctrl-Alt-l Locks my screen (KDE shortcut) Ctrl-Alt-s Does nothing
Mukatsuku....
-jr
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 01:48, Hideki Hiura wrote:
From: James Ryan jamesr@totalinfosecurity.com I press CTRL-SPACE nothing happens. I've tried a lot of other key combinations as well... Should canna also be installed and running? It's not on the list of
Yes, you need canna installed. That's the language engine used.
You may also want to have gimlet(gnome-im-switcher) installed and run as applet, so that you can select the languages from panel.
Also updating IIIMF packages from Rawhide or http://people.redhat.com/yshao/im-sdk/rpms/ would be good. You can get language switching listings with the key combination <Alt><Ctrl>l or <Alt><Ctrl>s
required applications. I do have iiimf-le-canna installed.
iiimf-le-canna is the interface module for canna.
/usr/sbin/htt htt_server -nodaemon
For gtk+ applications, this is fine, because it serves directly to gtk+. (htt is a watchdog for htt_server)
For other XIM applications, you need httx and htt_xbe.(htt_xbe works as if XIM server, httx is a watchdog for htt_xbe)
I remember seeing a post about something called httx...does that need to be running and how do I run it?
The code to run httx should be already there in default, in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput which refers the environment variable $XIM.
I guess it is just because of canna package is missing?
> My .bash_profile contains: > export XMODIFIERS="@im=iiim" > export XMODIFIERS=im=htt
This should be just export XMODIFIERS="@im=htt"
but Jens said,
Just putting XIM=htt in "~/.i18n" should be all you need to have iiimf setup in your X session. You can do this also with the command $ im-switch -m iiimf
should be fine.
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, "morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote:
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway: - you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps) - sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim - as you indicated, the processes is running looks good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards, -- Akira TAGOH
Okay, I installed the latest packages, which seem to be 11.4-60 now, and everything seems to be working. Thanks for the help. -James
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 02:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, "morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote:
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
as you indicated, the processes is running looks good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards,
Akira TAGOH
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# /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications. That is good...Super.
However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off:
Toggle client conversion mode to false.
When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese again.
Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience with IIIMF a lot.
There are several other problems: I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it simply wasn't behaving) will take it out. I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to input ASCII too.
Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, "morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote:
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
as you indicated, the processes is running looks good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards,
Akira TAGOH
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Daniel, Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't use the Chinese input, only 日本語. But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off. What happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and kanji options. If I save, close the application and reload, it works fine. Has anyone else experienced this? -jr
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
# /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications. That is good...Super.
However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off: Toggle client conversion mode to false.
When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese again.
Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience with IIIMF a lot.
There are several other problems: I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it simply wasn't behaving) will take it out. I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to input ASCII too.
Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, > "morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote:
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
as you indicated, the processes is running looks good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards,
Akira TAGOH
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Hello,
I'm also having some issues with getting Traditional Chinese input mode to toggle. I started having this problem since I upgraded to the latest IIim packages. Before that, I could easily turn on/off IME in Mozilla or LICQ using Ctrl-Spacebar. Now I have to use the mouse to select the language mode in the Gnome applet (Gnome輸入法切換器 1.0.1) to switch between Chinese and English input in Mozilla. At this moment I am unable to type Chinese in LICQ. Is there any special configuration I need to perform to make it work as before?
Thanks, Colin
morpheus wrote:
Daniel, Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't use the Chinese input, only 日本語. But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off. What happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and kanji options. If I save, close the application and reload, it works fine. Has anyone else experienced this? -jr
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
# /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications. That is good...Super.
However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off: Toggle client conversion mode to false.
When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese again.
Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience with IIIMF a lot.
There are several other problems: I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it simply wasn't behaving) will take it out. I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to input ASCII too.
Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, >>"morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote: >> >>
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
- you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
- sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
- as you indicated, the processes is running looks
good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards,
Akira TAGOH
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What is your version number of IIIMF? iiimf*-46.svn* may works with you better right now.
For licq, make sure 'htt_xbe' process is running.
Regards, Leon
On 五, 2004-07-02 at 14:36, Colin Lau wrote:
Hello,
I'm also having some issues with getting Traditional Chinese input mode to toggle. I started having this problem since I upgraded to the latest IIim packages. Before that, I could easily turn on/off IME in Mozilla or LICQ using Ctrl-Spacebar. Now I have to use the mouse to select the language mode in the Gnome applet (Gnome輸入法切換器 1.0.1) to switch between Chinese and English input in Mozilla. At this moment I am unable to type Chinese in LICQ. Is there any special configuration I need to perform to make it work as before?
Thanks, Colin
morpheus wrote:
Daniel, Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't use the Chinese input, only 日本語. But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off. What happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and kanji options. If I save, close the application and reload, it works fine. Has anyone else experienced this? -jr
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
# /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications. That is good...Super.
However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off: Toggle client conversion mode to false.
When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese again.
Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience with IIIMF a lot.
There are several other problems: I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it simply wasn't behaving) will take it out. I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to input ASCII too.
Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
>>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, >>>"morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote: >>> >>>
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
- you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
- sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
- as you indicated, the processes is running looks
good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
Regards,
Akira TAGOH
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Hi Leon,
Thanks for your response. A run of "rpm -qa | grep iim" gave me: iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2 iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.5-1 iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587
FYI, Traditional Chinese input worked fine for me in both Mozilla and licq with version iiimf-*-11.4-43. I think that was before the IM switcher applet was installed.
I also ran "ps -ef | grep xbe" and confirmed that the htt_xbe process is running. The Chinese mode can be toggled in licq using Ctrl-Space, but the IME mode seems to be independent from the gnome-im-switcher-applet input mode (i.e. the applet still shows 英數 although licq is no longer accepting my input as English characters). Instead, a white box popped up whenever I try to input something in Chinese mode.
Any ideas are welcome.
Thank you, Colin
Leon Ho wrote:
What is your version number of IIIMF? iiimf*-46.svn* may works with you better right now.
For licq, make sure 'htt_xbe' process is running.
Regards, Leon
On 五, 2004-07-02 at 14:36, Colin Lau wrote:
Hello,
I'm also having some issues with getting Traditional Chinese input mode to toggle. I started having this problem since I upgraded to the latest IIim packages. Before that, I could easily turn on/off IME in Mozilla or LICQ using Ctrl-Spacebar. Now I have to use the mouse to select the language mode in the Gnome applet (Gnome輸入法切換器 1.0.1) to switch between Chinese and English input in Mozilla. At this moment I am unable to type Chinese in LICQ. Is there any special configuration I need to perform to make it work as before?
Thanks, Colin
morpheus wrote:
Daniel, Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't use the Chinese input, only 日本語. But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off. What happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and kanji options. If I save, close the application and reload, it works fine. Has anyone else experienced this? -jr
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
# /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications. That is good...Super.
However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off: Toggle client conversion mode to false.
When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese again.
Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience with IIIMF a lot.
There are several other problems: I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore. I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it simply wasn't behaving) will take it out. I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to input ASCII too.
Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000, >>>>"morpheus" == morpheus morpheus@post.harvard.edu wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of, morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your mails (but you said the latest packages) Pleas make sure anyway:
- you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see: iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps) iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese) iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean) iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended) iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others) iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional) iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires) iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
- sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
the environment variable again. if you configure it correctly, you can find out the below as the result of printenv command: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
- as you indicated, the processes is running looks
good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt, htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it manually on the terminal instead of. like this: # service IIim stop # killall httx # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep (you won't see any output here) # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
and on the another terminal: # /usr/bin/httx and then, run the KDE applications from the another terminal and press ctrl+space.
what do you see on each terminals?
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Hi,
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:41:48 -0700, "DSKY" == "Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚" danieyek@alumni.washington.edu wrote:
DSKY> # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d DSKY> I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
DSKY> James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot DSKY> different - I think.
DSKY> I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many DSKY> applications. That is good...Super.
DSKY> However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it effectively. With the debug message, I can identify DSKY> several occasions where the conversion mode is toggled off:
DSKY> Toggle client conversion mode to false.
DSKY> When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off DSKY> the conversion mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is turned off.
DSKY> Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is DSKY> as buggy as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion mode off, it reduced to a small button DSKY> without a label on it. Clicking on it, I found that "English" is checked.
For the empty status issue, Could you try im-sdk packages for FC2-updates (and iiimf-le-inpinyin which will be available soon for FC2-updates) ? it's more stable than -60. -60 is a snapshot version of the upstream. otherwise you always need to try rawhide packages to solve the unknown problems ;) the empty status issue should be fixed in that and the latest rawhide stuff.
Regards, -- Akira TAGOH
Hello,
I've been lurking in the background here with the same problem as "morpheus" & following along as you folks suggest fixes. I too almost have Japanese input working -- am running KDE with the language set to English, but would like to have Japanese input for the occaisional email and web search... Anyway, I've come closest now with the version 11.4-60 packages. At least an input window appears in the KDE apps...
But, when I installed those RPMS I also installed the Sazanami fonts... And now I don't seem to be able to see anything in Japanese. I think my truetype Japanese fonts may have become corrupted... They appear as blank squares in KDE apps and mozilla actually crashes if I attempt to go to a Japanese webpage now! Any hints on how to figure out what happened would be appreciated... If I pop up xfontsel I can see some of the Japanese x fonts, but don't really know how to evaluate what's going on with the truetype fonts...
I have tried uninstalling the Sazanami fonts, and re-installing ttfonts-ja-1.2-34 without success. I've also tried reverting back to the 11.4-46.svn1587 IIim packages, and of course that didn't affect the problem...
Thanks!
On Thursday 01 July 2004 22:18, D M wrote:
I have tried uninstalling the Sazanami fonts, and re-installing ttfonts-ja-1.2-34 without success. I've also tried reverting back to the 11.4-46.svn1587 IIim packages, and of course that didn't affect the problem...
Thanks!
OK, somehow uninstalling the original Japanese tt fonts and reinstalling again did the trick. So in the end it appears installing the sazanami fonts broke Japanese truetype fonts for me.
So now I can read Japanese again.
I can't type it yet, but will now re-install the 11.4-60 packages by themselves like I should have done in the first place & see how that goes...
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 22:44:40 -0700, "CM" == Circuit Man dmason@jeckyll.uoregon.edu wrote:
CM> On Thursday 01 July 2004 22:18, D M wrote:
I have tried uninstalling the Sazanami fonts, and re-installing ttfonts-ja-1.2-34 without success. I've also tried reverting back to the 11.4-46.svn1587 IIim packages, and of course that didn't affect the problem...
Thanks!
CM> OK, somehow uninstalling the original Japanese tt fonts and reinstalling again CM> did the trick. So in the end it appears installing the sazanami fonts broke CM> Japanese truetype fonts for me.
CM> So now I can read Japanese again.
CM> I can't type it yet, but will now re-install the 11.4-60 packages by CM> themselves like I should have done in the first place & see how that goes...
Thank you for the testing of the sazanami fonts. did you try re-login after installing the testing ttfonts-ja package? I'm not sure but I don't figure out how much it affects for the running process which is using Kochi fonts missing in the testing package. Otherwise it means the package has the upgrade issue. I need to track it down then.
Anyway more feedbacks are welcome :)
Thanks, -- Akira TAGOH
What I did exactly is install (rpm -Uvi) the package & restart X. When I logged in again I began having font problems. English text was fine, but anything Japanese in KDE apps was replaced by a blank square, when I tried to use mozilla (1.6 English with the Japanese language pack installed) it would work fine, but crashed when encountering anything Japanese (like www.yahoo.co.jp). I finally uninstalled the rpm's and re-installed ttfonts-ja from the Fedora DVD. Now things are back to normal...
On Friday 02 July 2004 01:15, Akira TAGOH wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 22:44:40 -0700, "CM" == Circuit Man dmason@jeckyll.uoregon.edu wrote:
CM> On Thursday 01 July 2004 22:18, D M wrote:
I have tried uninstalling the Sazanami fonts, and re-installing ttfonts-ja-1.2-34 without success. I've also tried reverting back to the 11.4-46.svn1587 IIim packages, and of course that didn't affect the problem...
Thanks!
CM> OK, somehow uninstalling the original Japanese tt fonts and reinstalling again CM> did the trick. So in the end it appears installing the sazanami fonts broke CM> Japanese truetype fonts for me.
CM> So now I can read Japanese again.
CM> I can't type it yet, but will now re-install the 11.4-60 packages by CM> themselves like I should have done in the first place & see how that goes...
Thank you for the testing of the sazanami fonts. did you try re-login after installing the testing ttfonts-ja package? I'm not sure but I don't figure out how much it affects for the running process which is using Kochi fonts missing in the testing package. Otherwise it means the package has the upgrade issue. I need to track it down then.
Anyway more feedbacks are welcome :)
Thanks,
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OK, I have the 11-4-60 packages installed, am trying to do Japanese input in English KDE, Fedora core 2:
rpm -qa |fgrep iiim
iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-60 iiimf-csconv-11.4-60 iiimf-le-canna-11.4-60 iiimf-client-lib-11.4-60 iiimf-x-11.4-60 iiimf-docs-11.4-60 iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-60 iiimf-gtk-11.4-60 iiimf-emacs-11.4-60 iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-60 iiimf-server-11.4-60
My .i18n contains the following:
XIM=htt
processes running:
htt 2267 0.0 0.0 2472 324 ? S 23:25 0:00 /usr/sbin/htt htt 2268 0.0 0.5 26000 2992 ? S 23:25 0:00 htt_server -nodaemon dmason 3135 0.0 0.2 5816 1348 ? S 23:33 0:00 httx dmason 3137 0.0 0.7 21020 3984 ? S 23:33 0:00 htt_xbe
Now if I hit ctrl-space in a KDE window, I get a small rectangle on its lower left with only a pair of square brackets... If I do so in kmail, which I'm using now...
はい。これです。
I can type the above, but cannot see any text in the input window. Which makes selecting kanji sort of a guessing game... I can only see the Japanese text after I hit return. The windows appear to behave as they should, but I just don't see any text until I commit the character.
If I do the same in Mozilla, I get the little rectangle with an [あ], and am able to enter Japanese as usual, able to select kanji, everything works fine.
If I create a brand new new account, start it in Japanese mode, input works perfectly with KDE apps, and I can see the Japanese characters in the input window. If I log out, then log back in in English, no input window comes up. If I add the XIM=htt line in .i18n, log out, log back in then I get the same behavior as my accout -- the input window pops up but I can't see anything inside the brackets & no kanji.
Everything seems to be mechanically working, but for some reason the character window only picks up the font if I am entering text in mozilla. I don't think this is a feature with my misadventure with the Sazanami fonts, since I had this same behavior before I tried upgrading.
Anyway, let me know if there's more tests I can try or switches that may not have been switched, etc.
Thanks!
--D
On Thursday 01 July 2004 22:18, D M wrote:
Hello,
I've been lurking in the background here with the same problem as "morpheus" & following along as you folks suggest fixes. I too almost have Japanese input working -- am running KDE with the language set to English, but would like to have Japanese input for the occaisional email and web search... Anyway, I've come closest now with the version 11.4-60 packages. At least an input window appears in the KDE apps...
But, when I installed those RPMS I also installed the Sazanami fonts... And now I don't seem to be able to see anything in Japanese. I think my truetype Japanese fonts may have become corrupted... They appear as blank squares in KDE apps and mozilla actually crashes if I attempt to go to a Japanese webpage now! Any hints on how to figure out what happened would be appreciated... If I pop up xfontsel I can see some of the Japanese x fonts, but don't really know how to evaluate what's going on with the truetype fonts...
I have tried uninstalling the Sazanami fonts, and re-installing ttfonts-ja-1.2-34 without success. I've also tried reverting back to the 11.4-46.svn1587 IIim packages, and of course that didn't affect the problem...
Thanks!
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:57:05 -0700, "DM" == D M dmason@jersey.uoregon.edu wrote:
DM> OK, I have the 11-4-60 packages installed, am trying to do Japanese input in DM> English KDE, Fedora core 2:
rpm -qa |fgrep iiim
DM> iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-csconv-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-le-canna-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-client-lib-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-x-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-docs-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-gtk-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-emacs-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-60 DM> iiimf-server-11.4-60
Please, don't use -60. it has a lot of bugs. if you want to test IIIMF, please install 11.4-63.svn1772.1 which is available on rawhide (Fedora Core development). otherwise use 11.4-46.svn1587 as the stable updated packages.
DM> I can type the above, but cannot see any text in the input window. Which DM> makes selecting kanji sort of a guessing game... I can only see the Japanese DM> text after I hit return. The windows appear to behave as they should, but I DM> just don't see any text until I commit the character.
can you reproduce this on even the above version? I haven't seen such problem.
Thanks, -- Akira TAGOH
On Friday 02 July 2004 01:42, Akira TAGOH wrote:
Please, don't use -60. it has a lot of bugs. if you want to test IIIMF, please install 11.4-63.svn1772.1 which is available on rawhide (Fedora Core development). otherwise use 11.4-46.svn1587 as the stable updated packages.
I believe I did have these problems with 11.4-46.svn1587, and since its not clear 60 is helping anything I'll revert back and try again...
What font does the input window choose, or how is that controlled? I have changed all my KDE fonts (via control center) to Kochi Gothic, but fixed width am only allowed western fonts (or at minimum aliased fonts) -- though I see the same effect from a brand new uncustomized account as well. It works fine if I start out in Japanese mode, but if my default language is English the character window becomes fontless. Mysteriously it works perfect from mozilla, but then returning to a KDE app, there are no fonts.
DM> I can type the above, but cannot see any text in the input window. Which DM> makes selecting kanji sort of a guessing game... I can only see the Japanese DM> text after I hit return. The windows appear to behave as they should, but I DM> just don't see any text until I commit the character.
can you reproduce this on even the above version? I haven't seen such problem.
Thanks,
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Hi,
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:44:56 -0700, "DM" == D M dmason@jersey.uoregon.edu wrote:
DM> I believe I did have these problems with 11.4-46.svn1587, and since its not DM> clear 60 is helping anything I'll revert back and try again...
What the problem did you see on -46.svn1587?
DM> What font does the input window choose, or how is that controlled? I have DM> changed all my KDE fonts (via control center) to Kochi Gothic, but fixed DM> width am only allowed western fonts (or at minimum aliased fonts) -- though DM> I see the same effect from a brand new uncustomized account as well. It works DM> fine if I start out in Japanese mode, but if my default language is English DM> the character window becomes fontless. Mysteriously it works perfect from DM> mozilla, but then returning to a KDE app, there are no fonts.
When I just tested httx with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 on kedit (and KDE), but it works fine. which version of ttfonts-ja have you installed btw? if it's a testing package for Sazanami fonts, please revert it too to track your problem down efficiently.
Regards, -- Akira TAGOH