[Fedora-i18n-list] Test result (Can't communicate with IIIM server)

[Kohei Yoshida]

Reporter: Kohei Yoshida
Product and version number: Fedora Core 1
Desktop environment and version number: KDE 3.1.4-4 Red Hat qt-3.1.2-14
Short description of observation: Can't communicate with IIIM server

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
$ rpm -qa | grep iiimf
iiimf-server-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-le-canna-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-le-xcin-debuginfo-0.1-3
iiimf-client-lib-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-x-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-le-unit-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.1-3
iiimf-csconv-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-docs-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-le-xcin-0.1-3
iiimf-le-inpinyin-debuginfo-0.1-3
iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-1.FC1.2
iiimf-gtk-11.4-1.FC1.2

How reproducible: always

Steps to Reproduce:

1. As root, run /sbin/service IIim restart.  This works as expected.

2. As a regular user, open up a terminal, and execute

  export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
  /usr/lib/im/httx

and leave the terminal open.  No error messages.  Good.

3. Open up another terminal session, and execute

  export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
  export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
  kedit

This opens up kedit.  Unfortunately, Ctrl+space after kedit is up won't
let me type any Japanese nor does it give me any feedback (i.e. no error
message, or anything).  

4. Close kedit for now, and execute

  export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
  gedit

Now I see a small rectangular box attached to the base of the gedit
window saying "Can't communicate with IIIM server".  Again, no Japanese
here either.

Additional info: My main environment is en_US.

Kohei

[Lawrence Lim]

Hi Kohei,
I was unable to reproduce your Test Result on my test machine which also 
has en_US.UTF-8 as the main environment. Please have a look of my 
screenshots.

Through past experience, the most common scenarios when the error 
message "Can't communicate with IIIM Sever" occurs is as follows:
    1) locale not set up properly. type "echo $LANG" to check if the 
LANG exported is correct.
    2) Missing LE. type "ls -l /usr/lib/im/leif" to check if CannaLE.so 
is in the dir.

I hope this helps. Please keep us informed of your progress. :)


Cheers,
Lawrence


Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> Reporter: Kohei Yoshida
> Product and version number: Fedora Core 1
> Desktop environment and version number: KDE 3.1.4-4 Red Hat qt-3.1.2-14
> Short description of observation: Can't communicate with IIIM server
>
> Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
> $ rpm -qa | grep iiimf
> iiimf-server-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-le-canna-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-le-xcin-debuginfo-0.1-3
> iiimf-client-lib-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-x-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-le-unit-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.1-3
> iiimf-csconv-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-docs-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-le-xcin-0.1-3
> iiimf-le-inpinyin-debuginfo-0.1-3
> iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-1.FC1.2
> iiimf-gtk-11.4-1.FC1.2
>
> How reproducible: always
>
> Steps to Reproduce:
>
> 1. As root, run /sbin/service IIim restart.  This works as expected.
>
> 2. As a regular user, open up a terminal, and execute
>
>   export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
>   /usr/lib/im/httx
>
> and leave the terminal open.  No error messages.  Good.
>
> 3. Open up another terminal session, and execute
>
>   export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
>   export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>   kedit
>
> This opens up kedit.  Unfortunately, Ctrl+space after kedit is up won't
> let me type any Japanese nor does it give me any feedback (i.e. no error
> message, or anything).  
>
> 4. Close kedit for now, and execute
>
>   export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
>   gedit
>
> Now I see a small rectangular box attached to the base of the gedit
> window saying "Can't communicate with IIIM server".  Again, no Japanese
> here either.
>
> Additional info: My main environment is en_US.
>
> Kohei
>
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>

[Kohei Yoshida]

Hi Lawrence,

On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:34, Lawrence Lim wrote:
>  Hi Kohei,
>  I was unable to reproduce your Test Result on my test machine which also 
>  has en_US.UTF-8 as the main environment. Please have a look of my 
>  screenshots. 
Ok.  Now I know what to expect when it's working.

>  Through past experience, the most common scenarios when the error 
>  message "Can't communicate with IIIM Sever" occurs is as follows:
>      1) locale not set up properly. type "echo $LANG" to check if the 
>  LANG exported is correct. 
I think my export is correct.  Here is my output.

[kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $LANG
ja_JP.UTF-8
[kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $XMODIFIERS
@im=htt
[kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $GTK_IM_MODULE
iiim

>      2) Missing LE. type "ls -l /usr/lib/im/leif" to check
> if CannaLE.so 
>  is in the dir. 
CannaLE.so is there.

[kohei@hydro bash]$ ll /usr/lib/im/leif/
合計 776
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        21104  2月 19 21:33 CannaLE.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       103546  2月 19 21:33 hangul.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       246940  2月 18 09:35 inpinyin.a
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          820  2月 18 09:35 inpinyin.la
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17  2月 23 12:43 inpinyin.so ->
inpinyin.so.0.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17  2月 23 12:43 inpinyin.so.0 ->
inpinyin.so.0.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       239060  2月 18 09:35
inpinyin.so.0.0.0
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096  2月 24 04:05 inputs
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        49539  2月 19 21:33 unitle.so
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        88463  2月 16 22:37 xcin.so
(some stuff is in Japanese because of ja_JP.UTF-8 setting)

Now, when I tested it today, httx spit out this error message

htt : Warning - htt_server died and recovered

as soon as I launched kedit.  And kedit hangs thereafter forcing me to
xkill it.  When I open gedit after exporting GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim, at
least httx doesn't output the above error message and I can type English
alphabets, but still the "Can't communicate with IIIM server" error
message ensues.

I tested it after shutting down my Canna server to see if it makes any
difference.  It didn't.

Hmm...

Kohei

[Kohei Yoshida]

Hi,

In addition to the information I provided in my previous post, 
I've discovered that my locale directory doesn't include a subdir
named ja_JP.  Here is what I have:

[kohei@hydro im]$ ll /usr/lib/im/locale/
total 16
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 ko_KR
drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 UNIT
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 zh_CN
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 zh_TW

Does it have anything to do with the problem I'm experiencing?

Kohei

[Lawrence Lim]

Hi Kohei,

Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In addition to the information I provided in my previous post, 
> I've discovered that my locale directory doesn't include a subdir
> named ja_JP.  Here is what I have:
>
> [kohei@hydro im]$ ll /usr/lib/im/locale/
> total 16
> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 ko_KR
> drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 UNIT
> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 zh_CN
> drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Feb 23 12:43 zh_TW
>
> Does it have anything to do with the problem I'm experiencing?
>   
>  
No it does not have anything to do with the problem you are facing. Very 
briefly, /usr/lib/im/locale is the place where LEs keeps their object or 
binary (data) files required when the LE loads. It is created during the 
installation of LE. So in the case of CannaLE, nothing external is 
loaded, so that's why there is no ja_JP dir.


Thanks,
Lawrence

[Leon Ho]

When you try to use direct IIIMF (ie. GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit), don't
run httx in your system. Try again and let us know if that makes any
different.

Did you try to activiate your IM anyway (ctrl-space) when it says "Can't
communicate with IIIM server" anyway?

Regards,
Leon

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:20, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
>  Hi Lawrence,
>  
>  On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:34, Lawrence Lim wrote:
>  > Hi Kohei,
>  > I was unable to reproduce your Test Result on my test machine which also 
>  > has en_US.UTF-8 as the main environment. Please have a look of my 
>  > screenshots.
>  
>  Ok.  Now I know what to expect when it's working.
>  
>  > Through past experience, the most common scenarios when the error 
>  > message "Can't communicate with IIIM Sever" occurs is as follows:
>  >     1) locale not set up properly. type "echo $LANG" to check if the 
>  > LANG exported is correct.
>  
>  I think my export is correct.  Here is my output.
>  
>  [kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $LANG
>  ja_JP.UTF-8
>  [kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $XMODIFIERS
>  @im=htt
>  [kohei@hydro bash]$ echo $GTK_IM_MODULE
>  iiim
>  
>  >     2) Missing LE. type "ls -l /usr/lib/im/leif" to check if CannaLE.so 
>  > is in the dir.
>  
>  CannaLE.so is there.
>  
>  [kohei@hydro bash]$ ll /usr/lib/im/leif/
>  合計 776
>  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        21104  2月 19 21:33 CannaLE.so
>  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       103546  2月 19 21:33 hangul.so
>  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       246940  2月 18 09:35 inpinyin.a
>  -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          820  2月 18 09:35 inpinyin.la
>  lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17  2月 23 12:43 inpinyin.so ->
>  inpinyin.so.0.0.0
>  lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17  2月 23 12:43 inpinyin.so.0 ->
>  inpinyin.so.0.0.0
>  -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       239060  2月 18 09:35
>  inpinyin.so.0.0.0
>  drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096  2月 24 04:05 inputs
>  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        49539  2月 19 21:33 unitle.so
>  -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        88463  2月 16 22:37 xcin.so
>  (some stuff is in Japanese because of ja_JP.UTF-8 setting)
>  
>  Now, when I tested it today, httx spit out this error message
>  
>  htt : Warning - htt_server died and recovered
>  
>  as soon as I launched kedit.  And kedit hangs thereafter forcing me to
>  xkill it.  When I open gedit after exporting GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim, at
>  least httx doesn't output the above error message and I can type English
>  alphabets, but still the "Can't communicate with IIIM server" error
>  message ensues.
>  
>  I tested it after shutting down my Canna server to see if it makes any
>  difference.  It didn't.
>  
>  Hmm...
>  
>  Kohei
>  
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[Kohei Yoshida]

Hi Leon,

On Wednesday 25 February 2004 18:43, Leon Ho wrote:
>  When you try to use direct IIIMF (ie. GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit),
> don't
>  run httx in your system. Try again and let us know if that makes any
>  different. 
I will try it tomorrow at work and report it back on this list (I'm at home, 
and I don't have a machine running Fedora.).

>  Did you try to activiate your IM anyway (ctrl-space) when it says
> "Can't
>  communicate with IIIM server" anyway? 
In a short answer, yes.  I've pressed Ctrl-space many times regardless, but 
nothing significant happened unfortunately.  I'll keep trying.

Regards,
Kohei

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:06, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
>  Hi Leon,
>  
>  On Wednesday 25 February 2004 18:43, Leon Ho wrote:
>  > When you try to use direct IIIMF (ie. GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit), don't
>  > run httx in your system. Try again and let us know if that makes any
>  > different.
>  
>  I will try it tomorrow at work and report it back on this list (I'm at home, 
>  and I don't have a machine running Fedora.). 
Ok.  This time I tried the following without running httx.

$ export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
$ export GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
$ gedit

But I still get the "Can't communicate..." error with no Japanese input.

Is there any logging facility that I can make use of?

Regards,

Kohei

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 11:25, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
>  Is there any logging facility that I can make use of? 
Speaking of logging facility, I've found in my /var/log/messages the
entry

Feb 26 15:04:29 hydro htt_server[16068]: Denied the access from
hydro.garner.mesco.com.

The time corresponds to the time when I tried to open gedit with the
"Can't communicate..." message.  hydro.garner.mesco.com is the hostname
of my workstation.

An attempt to login to port 9010 (assuming that this port is the port
htt_server is listening in) will result in:

$ telnet localhost 9010
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

followed by the same log entry in /var/log/messages as above.

Am I going somewhere? :)

Kohei

[Lawrence Lim]

Hi Kohei,
I have realised that you are not alone on this issue, I have seen a few 
other users expressing the same issue as well.

Unfortunately, it is very hard for me to pin-point exactly what is 
causing the problem at the moment as this is not an unanimous event 
where all users have the same problem. Nevertheless, it is a very 
interesting situation and is worth investigating ;). I really appreciate 
your effort for this.

Time for diagnosis (Please correct me if I am wrong):
+ From your past email, I gathered that you are using FC1 in the KDE 
environment with en_US as the system locale
+ Your IIIMF installtion package is correct and CannaLE is there.

Try the following:
+ Log out/Restart your machine
+ Log in

(open a terminal)
+ service IIim restart (should be two line of [OK])
+ service IIim status (should have a pid)
+ export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
+ export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
+ /usr/lib/im/httx

(open another terminal)
+ export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
+ export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
+ gedit (finger cross)

If by now the same problem still remains, please carry on with the 
following steps :
(gedit application)
+ right click mouse (a pop-up menu will appear)
+ select Input Methods (an extension to the pop-up menu will appear)
+ select Internet/Intranet Input Method (select it again even if it is 
already selected)


Gd luck,
Lawrence



Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 11:25, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
>   
>
> >Is there any logging facility that I can make use of?
> >    
> >
>
> Speaking of logging facility, I've found in my /var/log/messages the
> entry
>
> Feb 26 15:04:29 hydro htt_server[16068]: Denied the access from
> hydro.garner.mesco.com.
>
> The time corresponds to the time when I tried to open gedit with the
> "Can't communicate..." message.  hydro.garner.mesco.com is the hostname
> of my workstation.
>
> An attempt to login to port 9010 (assuming that this port is the port
> htt_server is listening in) will result in:
>
> $ telnet localhost 9010
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> Connection closed by foreign host.
>
> followed by the same log entry in /var/log/messages as above.
>
> Am I going somewhere? :)
>
> Kohei
>
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>   
>

[Kohei Yoshida]

Hi Lawrence,

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 01:16, Lawrence Lim wrote:
>  Hi Kohei,
>  I have realised that you are not alone on this issue, I have seen a
>  few other users expressing the same issue as well. 
>  
>  Unfortunately, it is very hard for me to pin-point exactly what is
>  causing the problem at the moment as this is not an unanimous event
>  where all users have the same problem. Nevertheless, it is a very
>  interesting situation and is worth investigating ;). I really
>  appreciate your effort for this. 
No problem.  I understand this module is still in its infancy, so I
don't expect it to work flawlessly (yet).

>  Time for diagnosis (Please correct me if I am wrong):
>  + From your past email, I gathered that you are using FC1 in the KDE
>  environment with en_US as the system locale 
That is correct.  But I encounter the same problem under GNOME also.

>  + Your IIIMF installtion package is correct and CannaLE is there.
Yes.  At least I didn't get any suspicious error message during
installation.  I used yum to install my IIIMF package, if it matters.

>  Try the following:
>  + Log out/Restart your machine
>  + Log in
>  
>  (open a terminal)
>  + service IIim restart (should be two line of [OK])
>  + service IIim status (should have a pid)
>  + export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
>  + export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>  + /usr/lib/im/httx 
>  
>  (open another terminal)
>  + export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8
>  + export XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>  + gedit (finger cross) 
Have done this a couple of times, but no luck.

>  If by now the same problem still remains, please carry on with the
>  following steps :
>  (gedit application)
>  + right click mouse (a pop-up menu will appear)
>  + select Input Methods (an extension to the pop-up menu will appear)
>  + select Internet/Intranet Input Method (select it again even if it is
>  already selected) 
Done this.  But the problem still remains.  The Internet/Intranet Input
Method was already selected, but I re-selected it like you requested. 
No luck. :(

Well, I guess I'll go back to kinput2 for now.  But I'll test IIIMF
again when new versions are released.

Good luck guys!

Kohei

[Kohei Yoshida]

After Yong Li's comment on this issue, I gave it another try, and it
works, well, partially.

After modifying the /usr/lib/im/htt.conf file, I can finally type
Hiragana within gedit, but I can't convert it to Kanji.

When I do Ctrl-space and type a-k-a, and I hit space, nothing happens. 
Then I see these entires in /var/log/messages

Mar  1 08:40:22 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):43
Mar  1 08:40:35 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):73
Mar  1 08:40:35 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):73
Mar  1 08:40:37 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):13
Mar  1 08:40:37 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):13
Mar  1 08:40:37 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):73
Mar  1 08:40:37 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):43
Mar  1 08:40:53 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):43
Mar  1 08:40:59 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):73
Mar  1 08:40:59 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):43
Mar  1 08:41:16 hydro htt_server[19364]: Invalid message(IC normal
state):13

What I *can* do is convert Hiragana to Katakana by hitting the
arrow-down key.  This works as expected.

I also tried with LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8.  Now this seems to work just fine. 
I've typed several Chinese characters in simplified Chinese, and it
works flawlessly.  Hmm..  This makes me jealous. ;)

Kohei