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Orca to replace gnopernicus in gnome 2.16...fc6 too?
by Thomas J. Baker 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

I just read that orca has replaced gnopernicus as the screen reader for gnome 2.16 and was wondering if this was going to make it to fc6? Thanks, tjb -- ======================================================================= | Thomas Baker email: tjb(a)unh.edu | | Systems Programmer | | Research Computing Center voice: (603) 862-4490 | | University of New Hampshire fax: (603) 862-1761 | | 332 Morse Hall | | Durham, NH 03824 USA http://wintermute.sr.unh.edu/~tjb | =======================================================================

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possible yast porting? was: slashdot on fedora-marketing-list
by Steve Barnhart 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

Forwarded to the more "technical" list following discussion. > Ya I really am saddened that no other distros have taken advantage of > YaST being open source. Everyone keeps wasting resources and > rebuilding when YaST is a good alternative and includes an ncurses gui > too. I really like YaST and is probably the reason I keep having a > hard time deciding between Fedora and openSUSE and keeping both of > them on my HD. Porting YaST should be way simpler for Fedora as it is > already RPM based. So many modules are there that rebuilding something > else just seems like a waste of time. > On 8/30/06, Nicola Losito <n.losito(a)yahoo.it> wrote: > > > > > > So here i am again. > > I've let settle down a little dust in the discussion with Raul. > > > > From a Marketing point (yes, techicians ALL hates marketing) point how > > can/want we "force" the developers to appeal more customers ? > > And i do not mean professional ones which uses XEN or SElinux in a > > "conscious" way, but everyday people. I mean the point & click inclined to. > > I might say to look on how Novell has worked on the desktop experience of > > SLED starting from the openSUSE, there are some yards of difference between > > the two projects. > > > > From my point of view we can welcome more people: > > > > - talking till come blue in the face of Fedora, of what's going on and why > > (possibily); > > > > - continuing this road of "disclosure" i am enjoying since Max has come > > "the" chief :-P > > > > - simplyfing the package management & retrieval (again to give a slight idea > > i would *love* a hugest as possible fedora-extra repo, an external > > FC-compatible non-US repository for packages that are allowed almoust > > everywhere but not in the USA and a "Penguin Liberation Front" style repo); > > > > - answering in a clear and motivated way to people approaching .... being > > told "your vision is wrong or different" is useless. We have to suppose that > > people who subscribes here or another no help-desk list has read and > > understood our "policies" and still has a different take on them. Things are > > always perfectible (hope it's the right word) and welcoming new ideas is not > > always bad. On the contrary to stick obsessively with self made rules would > > end in a closed environment, and we - i suppose - are for the Open. > > > > - try to develop more friendly and unified "control center" .... now for > > Fedora (and also Debian) i see a tendency to put this effort on Gnome or > > KDE. I like the Mandriva Control Center and YaST approach, and since someone > > told me YaST is smart enough to leave untouched hand-modified files and > > since it has become GPL'd i would like other distro approach and make it > > better than it is (as it's being done with Smart Package management). > > > > So, lunch is coming my way .... i'll stop bothering this list ! > > Thanks for reading ++ i do hope to have been "understandable" > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito > > http://koolinus.wordpress.com -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Steve

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openmotif to be removed from Fedora October 2, 2006
by Rex Dieter 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

------------------- For reference, a copy of this posting as well as any updates on this topic are available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RexDieter/openmotif ------------------- Per discussion on the Fedora Advisory Board mailing list, openmotif currently does not meet Fedora's licensing requirements. The openmotif developers have been contacted, but it appears openmotif's licensing will not be changing soon. The hard decision has been made that openmotif will be removed from Fedora and the current plan is to make this happen by October 2, 2006, the final development freeze for Fedora Core 6. Currently, the following packages in Core and Extras contain runtime or build time dependencies on openmotif: * cmucl * ddd * geomview * gpsd * grace * Inventor * mesa-libGLw * nedit * xlockmore * xpdf Maintainers need to update their packages to use another motif implementation, lesstif (in Extras). It is not 100% ABI-compatible (and provides a different shared library soname), but all that should be required for most motif-dependent applications is changing BuildRequires: openmotif-devel to BuildRequires: lesstif-devel and rebuilding/recompiling.

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My favorite pet bug (2004): Yum mishandles Ctrl-C
by Gilboa Davara 07 Sep '06

07 Sep '06

Hello all, This bug has been originally reported against yum/FC3 by Rahul Sundaram and continues to thrive... In essence, once yum begins to download files, it misinterprets Ctrl-C as "Mirror switch" instead of "Cancel", leaving the user no direct way to halt yum. (I usually suspend yum [Ctrl-Z] and then kill it using "killall -9 yum" which is -far- from being an ideal solution). Any chance of getting this fixed before FC6? Gilboa

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Wishlist: remote install GUI
by Steven Pritchard 06 Sep '06

06 Sep '06

A thought came up on IRC earlier that I thought I should record somewhere: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StevenPritchard/InstallConsole To summarize, back in the late 90s when I was an HP-UX admin, I thought that one of the nicer tools HP made was something called Ignite-UX. It was a GUI that could be used to remotely start an install of HP-UX. On several occasions, I used to it completely reinstall dozens of HP-UX workstations all at once. I think something similar for Fedora would be Really Cool, and I'm convinced it would be fairly easy to implement by someone who knew anaconda much, much better than I do. :-) Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve(a)kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)398-3000 Mobile: (618)567-7320

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Mylex or LSILogic DAC960PG Broken on Fedora Core 5
by Aaron Gray 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Support for the Mylex or LSILogic DAC960PG is broken on Fedora Core 5. It works fine on Redhat 9 and FC4 but Anaconda just hangs on loading the DAC960 driver. I am wondering what I can do to get find if this is a known issue and as to whether it will or has been fixed in FC6 ? Should I post it as a bug on bugzilla. Many thanks in advance, Aaron

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New yum plugin to skip packages with dependencies problems.
by Tim Lauridsen 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Hi I have created a yum plugin there solves the problem with updates with dependency problem there blocks from updating your system. Installation: copy depcheck.py to /usr/lib/yum-plugins/ copy depcheck.conf to /etc/yum/ /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/ Usage: Then the plugin is installed, i add a new option : '--depcheck' to yum. Ex. #yum --depcheck update Then the option is used, then the plugin will check each update for dependency problems, and remove the ones from the transaction there has problems. Try it out and let me know if there is any problems. I works i both yum 2.6.1 & 2.9.5. Tim [main] enabled = 1

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Re: openmotif to be removed from Fedora October 2, 2006
by Joachim Frieben 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

The "tetex-xdvi" package is missing from the list below. Of course, building against "Openmotif" has always been optional. One would have to revert to the "X/Athena" widget based interface in order to keep it in "core". I suppose, moving "tetex" (or its successor) to "extras" was not part of the agenda ... > > Currently, the following packages in Core and Extras contain runtime or build time dependencies on openmotif: > * cmucl > * ddd > * geomview > * gpsd > * grace > * Inventor > * mesa-libGLw > * nedit > * xlockmore > * xpdf

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Via VT8237A kernel support
by Jay Cliburn 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

For reasons I cannot fathom -- and because the cognizant gatekeepers at LKML won't respond to pleas for feedback -- these two simple patches, which add PATA and SATA support for the VIA VT8237A Southbridge chip now found on certain new motherboards, have not been applied (or acked or nacked or anything else). PATA: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-ide&m=115513979609546&w=2 SATA: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-ide&m=115552504713314&w=2 I know for a fact the the SATA patch works; I wrote it and I've been using it for weeks. I've read the PATA patch works, too, but I haven't personally tried it (although I'd be willing to try if it helps). I don't want to waste anyone's time by filing a Fedora bugzilla that will never be implemented, so if I do, what are the prospects for getting these patches into the Fedora development tree until such time as they're applied upstream (if ever)? Maybe my expectations are too high. For the kerneldev-savvy readers, what is the typical gestation period for upstream patches of this type? Thanks, Jay

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rawhide report: 20060831 changes
by Build System 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

Updated Packages: NetworkManager-1:0.6.4-4.fc6 ---------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> - 1:0.6.4-4 - add epochs in requirements * Wed Aug 30 2006 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> - 1:0.6.4-3 - Fix FC-5 buildreqs * Wed Aug 30 2006 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> - 1:0.6.4-2 - Revert FC6 to latest stable NM - Update to stable snapshot - Remove bind/caching-nameserver hard requirement anaconda-11.1.0.88-1 -------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 11.1.0.88-1 - Fix a case where images don't exist (#204648) - More making pkgorder quieter * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 11.1.0.87-1 - Fix traceback on editing lvm (#204631) - Fix SELinux context setting - Don't do file logging in pkgorder anacron-2.3-39.fc6 ------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jitka Kudrnacova <jkudrnac(a)redhat.com> - 2.3-39 - modified PATH in /etc/anacrontab file to make the same as in /etc/crontab (#61891) ant-0:1.6.5-2jpp.2 ------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Deepak Bhole <dbhole(a)redhat.com> 1.6.5-2jpp.2 - Re-enabling style and xmlvalidate task on ppc64 and s390x. at-spi-1.7.11-2.fc6 ------------------- * Wed Aug 23 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 1.7.11-2.fc6 - Remove debug spew audit-1.2.6-3 ------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Steve Grubb <sgrubb(a)redhat.com> 1.2.6-3 - Rename audit event socket cairo-java-1.0.5-2.fc6 ---------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 1.0.5-2 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. - Do not do `rm *.a'--there are not any. compiz-0.0.13-0.21.20060817git.fc6 ---------------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Kristian Høgsberg <krh(a)redhat.com> - 0.0.13-0.21.20060817git.fc6 - Drop gl-include-inferiors.patch now that compiz uses COW and the X server evicts offscreen pixmaps automatically on GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap usage. cups-1:1.2.3-3 -------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.2.3-3 - Don't overwrite snmp.c. - No longer need str1893 patch. * Wed Aug 30 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.2.3-2 - 1.2.3. No longer need str1880 or str1881 patches. * Tue Aug 29 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> - Removed dest-cache patch. dbus-sharp-0.63-6.fc6 --------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.63-6 - Fix connection and message gc problem (#187452) - Patch from Christian Krause epiphany-2.15.92-3.fc6 ---------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.15.92-3.fc6 - Install the fonts and pango schemas (#204602) esc-1.0.0-9.fc6 --------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jack Magne <jmagne(a)redhat.com>- 1.0.0-9 - Revision of the strings used in ESC. firefox-1.5.0.6-9 ----------------- * Tue Aug 29 2006 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1.5.0.6-9 - Build with -rpath (#161958) * Mon Aug 28 2006 Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo(a)redhat.com> - Remove "Pango breaks MathML" from firefox.sh.in frysk-0.0.1.2006.08.30.rh1-1.fc6 -------------------------------- * Tue Aug 29 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 0.0.1.2006.08.30.rh1-1 - New upstream version. - Removed xorg-x11-xinit from BuildRequires, dogtail was fixed to require it. - Build also on ppc64. glib-java-0.2.6-2.fc6 --------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 0.2.6-2 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. glib2-2.12.3-2.fc6 ------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.12.3-1.fc6 - Update to 2.12.3 - Drop upstreamed patch gnome-vfs2-2.15.92-2.fc6 ------------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.15.92-2 - Make error handling for http redirect more robust (203678) hal-0.5.7.1-3.fc6 ----------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.7.1-3.fc6 - Add a .desktop file for hal-device-manager java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-0:1.4.2.0-40jpp.104 ----------------------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons <fitzsim(a)redhat.com> - 0:1.4.2.0-40jpp.104 - Import java-gcj-comapt 1.0.64. jpackage-utils-0:1.6.6-1jpp.7 ----------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Thomas Fitzsimmons <fitzsim(a)redhat.com> - 0:1.6.6-1jpp.7 - Make rebuild-security-providers look in /usr/lib. libgconf-java-2.12.4-3.fc6 -------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 2.12.4-3 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. libgnome-java-2.12.4-2.fc6 -------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 2.12.4-2 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. libgtk-java-2.8.6-3.fc6 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 2.8.6-3 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. libvte-java-0.12.1-3.fc6 ------------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Stepan Kasal <skasal(a)redhat.com> - 0.12.1-3 - Do not pack the *.la files. - Move the *.so symlinks to -devel. libxklavier-3.0-1.fc6 --------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 3.0-1.fc6 - Update to 3.0 - Require pkgconfig in the -devel package - Don't ship static libraries man-pages-fr-2.39-2.fc6 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano(a)redhat.com> 2.39-2 - new version of man-pages mesa-6.5.1-0.rc2.fc6 -------------------- * Tue Aug 29 2006 Kristian Høgsberg <krh(a)redhat.com> - 6.5.1-0.rc2.fc6 - Rebase to 6.5.1 RC2. - Get rid of redhat-mesa-driver-install and redhat-mesa-target helper scripts and clean up specfile a bit. mx4j-1:3.0.1-6jpp.4 ------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Deepak Bhole <dbhole(a)redhat.com> 3.0.1-6jpp.4 - Rebuilding. net-snmp-5.3.1.0-6.fc6 ---------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Radek Vokal <rvokal(a)redhat.com> 5.3.1.0-6 - fix IPv4/IPv6 address presentation (#200255) nfs-utils-lib-1.0.8-7.2 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Steve Dickson <steved(a)redhat.com> 1.0.8-7.2 - added automake to BuildRequires: * Wed Aug 30 2006 Steve Dickson <steved(a)redhat.com> 1.0.8-7.1 - rebuild * Wed Aug 02 2006 Steve Dickson <steved(a)redhat.com> 1.0.8-7 - Updated librpcsecgss to -0.14 pyparted-1.7.3-1.fc6 -------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 David Cantrell <dcantrell(a)redhat.com> - 1.7.3-1 - Include parted/constraint.h in required header files * Wed Aug 30 2006 David Cantrell <dcantrell(a)redhat.com> - 1.7.2-2 - Require parted-1.7.1 or higher python-xeninst-0.92.0-1 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 0.92.0-1 - Fix silly loop when asking about graphics support (misa) - Fix passing macaddr - Add support so that we reboot into the guest after installation finishes selinux-policy-2.3.10-3 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 2.3.10-3 - Fix audit line - Fix requires line * Tue Aug 29 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 2.3.10-1 - Upgrade to upstream * Mon Aug 28 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 2.3.9-6 - Fix install problems setroubleshoot-0.38-1 --------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> - 0.38-1 - Dan Walsh * Hook up the rest of the menu bars on browser window * Add public_content.py plugin - John Dennis * add delete_signatures() method to AlertClient class * start using the AppBar in the browser. * "open logfile" now connected all the way from browser menu to server rpc, still needs implementation, but "plumbing" is working. * fixes for the date/time dialog * remove install of setroubleshoot.glade, we now only use setroubleshoot_browser.glade * some fixed to DateTimeDialog struts-0:1.2.9-4jpp.2 --------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Deepak Bhole <dbhole(a)redhat.com> 1.2.9-4jpp.2 - Rebuilding. system-config-printer-0.7.27-1 ------------------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 0.7.27-1 - Build requires intltool. - 0.7.27. system-config-securitylevel-1.6.25-1 ------------------------------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Chris Lumens <clumens(a)redhat.com> 1.6.25-1 - Fix traceback from debugging dialog. - Display a dialog while policy is being saved and reloaded. usermode-1.86-1 --------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Martin Bacovsky <mbacovsky(a)redhat.com> 1.86-1 - fix userpasswd - Query window pops up three times if cancelling passwd (#202924) - Serbian latin script translation added (#203003) vim-2:7.0.076-1 --------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.de> 7.0.076-1 - Patchlevel 76 vixie-cron-4:4.1-63.fc6 ----------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano(a)redhat.com> - 4:4.1-63 - fix problem with selinux (#181439) * Mon Aug 28 2006 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano(a)redhat.com> - 4:4.1-61 - changes in spec file (#204230) * Fri Aug 25 2006 Marcela Maslanova <mmaslano(a)redhat.com> - 4:4.1-60 - patch from Jose Plans fixed: Job delayed after using crontab -e xen-3.0.2-29 ------------ * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 3.0.2-29 - update libvncserver to hopefully fix problems with vnc clients disconnecting xkeyboard-config-0.8-5 ---------------------- * Tue Aug 29 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.8-5 - Add MacBook model and geometry, plus alt_win option xorg-x11-server-1.1.1-33.fc6 ---------------------------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Kristian Høgsberg <krh(a)redhat.com> - 1.1.1-33.fc6 - Update xorg-x11-server-1.1.1-offscreen-pixmaps.patch to evict pixmap when GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is first used. yum-2.9.5-3 ----------- * Wed Aug 30 2006 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 2.9.5-3 - fix deprecation warnings in installonlyn (Jack Neely) Broken deps for ia64 ---------------------------------------------------------- virt-manager - 0.2.0-3.ia64 requires libvirt-python >= 0:0.1.4-3 virt-manager - 0.2.0-3.ia64 requires python-xeninst >= 0:0.90.1

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