proposal for make help chain-build text
by Patrice Dumas
Hello,
Here is a proposal for the result of make help for the chain-build
target, what I changed relates with : and prallel builds:
chain-build Build current package in order with
other packages
example: make chain-build CHAIN='libwidget libgizmo'
The current package is added to the end of the CHAIN list.
Colons (:) can be used in the CHAIN parameter to define
parallely built package groups.
Packages in a single group will be built in parallel,
and all packages in a group must build successfully and
populate the repository before the next group will begin building.
For example
make chain-build CHAIN='libwidget libaselib : libgizmo
:'
will cause libwidget and libaselib to be build in parallel,
followed by libgizmo and then the current directory package.
If no groups are defined, packages will be built sequentially.
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Pat
15 years, 8 months
Live CD failure
by Richard Hughes
Today I tried to create a live cd, without much success:
sudo livecd-creator --config=fedora-livecd-desktop-default.ks
Then I booted the ISO in qemu using KVM. This gives:
FATAL: Module sr_mod not found
FATAL: Module loop not found
FATAL: Module dm_snapshot not found
Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!
and then it hangs.
Am I missing a trick? I'm trying to debug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461825
Richard.
15 years, 8 months
Evolution junk failures
by Mike Chambers
On an F9 system upgraded to Rawhide, it seems evolution shows (not sure
if all the time, or at certain times/conditions) a "Check junk mail"
failed message when emails arrive. And this worked just fine on F9,
using bogofilter as my spam program.
Also, (not sure this is evo though), as I am typing this, I can see the
whole email (body and signature) flashing in 2-3 different places on my
screen in the body of the email. Below is a URL with a screenshot of
it....
http://www.miketc.net/Screenshot.png
Any ideas?
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Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302(a)fedoraproject.org
15 years, 8 months
Pseudo-locales for i18n testing by English speakers
by Sean Flanigan
(Apologies for the double post on fedora-i18n-list, but I want to keep
the thread together. Please reply to this message, not the first one.)
G'day all,
I think we should make use of pseudo-locales to test Fedora.
[--- I ŧⱨîňⱪ ש𝖾 šⱨøմŀđ ოåⱪ𝖾 մš𝖾 øϝ Þš𝖾մđø-ŀøçåŀ𝖾š ŧø ŧ𝖾šŧ F𝖾đøяå.
---]
(In case UTF-8 doesn't make it to everyone's mail client intact, the
above sentence should like similar to the first one, except that the
lower case characters have been replaced by other similar-looking
Unicode characters. A couple of the characters don't fit into 16 bits,
and really gave my text editors some trouble!)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudo-translation and
http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnste/archive/2006/06/27/647915.aspx for more
about pseudo-locales. Microsoft actually used three different
pseudo-locales to test Vista, with things like reverse sorting,
right-to-left characters, and large character sets.
To me, the main advantages of pseudo-localisation are the ability to
test some aspects of i18n without having to wait for translations to be
turned around, and allowing English-only speakers to test i18n areas,
which is otherwise extremely difficult.
I have a simple Ant task which can generate pseudo-translations like the
one above from a gettext POT files, but I'm not suggesting that we
should integrate my humble Ant task into the makefiles of thousands of
Fedora packages. If the gettext runtime code that fetches translations
from .mo files (in glibc?) were to recognise a pseudo-locale id, it
could generate pseudo-translations on the fly from the English text.
Admittedly, there's a little more to it than simple character
substitution. The pseudo-translator has to avoid changing things like
variable names and html tags, but a few rules (eg don't modify anything
between angle/square/curly brackets, don't touch %d/%s/etc) would cover
95% of cases. In the other cases, you might mess up some HTML or fail
to expand a variable, but only users who choose to use a pseudo-locale
would ever see these problems.
Would there be any interest in getting something like this into glibc?
[--- S𝖾åň ---]
PS this could make sense for the OpenJDK too, but that's another story.
--
Sean Flanigan
Senior Software Engineer
Engineering - Internationalisation
Red Hat
15 years, 8 months
Your release notes are looking … thin
by Karsten Wade
FREEZE
:: Release notes content is freezing on the wiki for the Fedora
10 Preview Release on 08 October at 23:59 UTC. ::
FREEZE
If you take a look at the wiki pages that are the source for the release
notes (Docs/Beats), note the list of content areas (beats) that remain
unassigned[1]. What’s going on there? Why hasn’t the Docs Project
assigned someone?
FLASH
:: If you don’t assign someone from your sub-project or SIG to
cover that content, that area will be empty for the Fedora 10
Preview and possibly final releases. ::
FLASH
Yep, it’s our job to remind you, edit, convert, get translated, package,
and deliver. But only you can fill in the content that is missing. One
thing we will do for you is hunt through your feature page and pull in
any release notes content that you put there. But you have to put it
there first, we cannot divine it.
There are also some beats that are assigned but no content has been
inserted. Here is your chance (about 2.25 days worth from the moment of
this writing.)
Here is a list of unassigned beats that are in danger of being dropped
for the Preview Release, meaning zero content appears:
* Live media
* Kernel
* Package notes (misc. package changes) — possibly deprecated
* Printing
* Mail servers
* Developer features (not tools) — i.e., not Haskell, NetBeans,
etc.
* Eclipse
* Java
* Samba
* System daemons
* Multimedia
* Entertainment
* Networking
* Database servers
* Backwards compatibility — catch-all for backwards compat notes
that don’t fit elsewhere
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats#Beat_Assignments
--
Karsten Wade, Community Gardener
Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com
Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
gpg key : AD0E0C41
15 years, 8 months
pulse-rt by default?
by Jon Masters
Hi,
Can I suggest that we consider adding new desktop users on a fresh
install to pulse-rt by default? Or, put another way, does anyone think
this is a particularly bad idea to be doing?
Jon.
15 years, 8 months
Cannot recompile x86_64 kernel on installed F9 i686
by Joshua C.
I tried to recompile the x86_64 version of the F10beta kernel on my F9
i686. And this is the error message I got
------
+ perl -p -i -e 's/^EXTRAVERSION.*/EXTRAVERSION =
-0.352.rc7.git1.fc10.x86_64/' Makefile
+ make -s mrproper
+ cp configs/kernel-2.6.27-x86_64.config .config
++ head -1 .config
++ cut -b 3-
+ Arch=x86_64
+ echo USING ARCH=x86_64
USING ARCH=x86_64
+ make -s ARCH=x86_64 nonint_oldconfig
+ make -s ARCH=x86_64 V=1 -j3 bzImage
#
# configuration written to .config
#
SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86
scripts/mod/empty.c:1: error: code model 'kernel' not supported in the
32 bit mode
scripts/mod/empty.c:1: sorry, unimplemented: 64-bit mode not compiled in
make[2]: *** [scripts/mod/empty.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [scripts/mod] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make: *** [scripts] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.7836 (%build)
RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.7836 (%build)
---------
Recompiling the i686 kernel works fine but not the x86_64. Tried also
the lastes kernel in koji and got the same error. How to recompile it?
15 years, 8 months
Uniform Proxy Settings
by Kulbir Saini
Hi list,
Whenever I try a new version of Fedora, the first problem I face is
setting the proxy. It seems for almost every application, I have to
specify proxy at a different place. We have this "System -> Preferences
-> Internet and Network -> Network Proxy" app to specify proxy settings.
But I wonder if there is some application which obeys these settings.
Examples:
1. Yum (3.2.19-3.fc10) won't fetch proxy settings from above
specified location. It has to be set via proxy option in yum.conf or
http_proxy/ftp_proxy env variable.
2. Codeina (0.10.1-9.fc10) will behave the same.
3. Revisor (2.1.0-1rc7.fc9) will not even obey http_proxy/ftp_proxy
env variable settings. It has to be set in revisor.conf via proxy option.
.... and the list continues.
Do we have any plans in near future to force a single location where
proxy will be set and all other applications must read/write settings
from/to that location? so that we can set different proxies (in case
somebody needs) for different applications at that particular location.
---------------------------------------------------
Thank you,
Kulbir Saini,
Computer Science and Engineering,
International Institute of Information Technology,
Hyderbad, India - 500032.
My Home-Page: http://saini.co.in/
My Web-Blog: http://fedora.co.in/
IRC nick : generalBordeaux
Channels : #fedora, #fedora-devel, #yum on freenode
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