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rawhide report: 20080319 changes
by Fedora compose checker 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Updated Packages: anaconda-11.4.0.55-1 -------------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Chris Lumens <clumens(a)redhat.com> - 11.4.0.55-1 - Fix format of method=hd: parameter (#438075). (clumens) - Work on support for NFSISO installs when using boot.iso. (clumens) - If a file doesn't exist, don't continue trying to loopback mount it. (clumens) - Make loopback mount error messages more useful. (clumens) - Focus root password entry box (#436885). (dcantrell) - Fix a traceback writing out the method string for hdiso installs. (clumens) - Fix use of sizeof on a malloc()'d char ** (pjones) - Fix up ppc boot check (#438005) (katzj) - Support reading the UUID from the disk like we do with labels. (clumens) - If the protected partition is not yet mounted, mount it now. (clumens) - Don't add /dev/ to LABEL= or UUID= devices either. (clumens) - Use arch instead of the name again in package nevra. (clumens) - Fix traceback with preexisting LUKS partitions in setFromDisk. (part of #437858) (dlehman) booty-0.101-1.fc9 ----------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> - 0.101-1 - Fix missing import from 0.100-1 build - Pass installGrub() "cmds" argument correctly during upgrade. * Tue Mar 18 2008 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> - 0.100-1 - Use sysfs to determine efi in getBootloaderTypeAndBoot() (#437955) gdm-1:2.21.10-0.2008.03.18.1.fc9 -------------------------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Jon McCann <jmccann(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.21.10-0.2008.03.18.1 - Update to snapshot * Mon Mar 17 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.21.9-5 - Implement tooltips in the language selection dialog * Mon Mar 17 2008 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.21.9-4 - Stop gvfs from using fuse in the sandbox session logjam-1:4.5.3-22.fc9 --------------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> - 4.5.3-22 - re-enable threading where we really need it only * Tue Mar 18 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> - 4.5.3-21 - disable more threading * Tue Mar 18 2008 Tom "spot" Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> - 4.5.3-20 - revert disable-threading patch mkinitrd-6.0.39-1.fc9 --------------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> - 6.0.39-1 - Fix parsing of /proc/mdstat so we look for sda1 not sda (#437231) (gawk, bash, I hate you both.) * Tue Mar 18 2008 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> - 6.0.38-1 - Add --posttrans support in new-kernel-package and installkernel. xorg-x11-server-1.4.99.901-10.20080314.fc9 ------------------------------------------ * Tue Mar 18 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 1.4.99.901-10.20080314 - xserver-1.5.0-no-evdev-keyboards-kthnx.patch: Sorry, evdev keyboarding is just too broken. * Fri Mar 14 2008 Adam Jackson <ajax(a)redhat.com> 1.4.99.901-9.20080314 - Today's snapshot. Mostly just patch merge with rawhide. Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-11.fc9.i386 requires java-1.6.0openjdkk boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.i386 requires mono(NAnt.Core) = 0:0.85.2478.0 boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.i386 requires mono(NAnt.DotNetTasks) = 0:0.85.2478.0 claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.i386 requires libkdecorations.so.1 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.i386 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(Nbi) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(Elf) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(TruncFD) perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.i386 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.i386 requires libbeecrypt.so.6 vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.i386 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.i386 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-11.fc9.x86_64 requires java-1.6.0openjdkk boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.x86_64 requires mono(NAnt.Core) = 0:0.85.2478.0 boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.x86_64 requires mono(NAnt.DotNetTasks) = 0:0.85.2478.0 claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.x86_64 requires libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit) evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.x86_64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.x86_64 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(Nbi) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(Elf) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(TruncFD) perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.x86_64 requires libbeecrypt.so.6()(64bit) vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-11.fc9.ppc requires java-1.6.0openjdkk claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.ppc requires libkdecorations.so.1 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.ppc requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.ppc requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.ppc requires libbeecrypt.so.6 vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-11.fc9.ppc64 requires java-1.6.0openjdkk claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.ppc64 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires mediawiki perl-Test-AutoBuild-darcs-1.2.2-3.fc9.noarch requires darcs >= 0:1.0.0 perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.ppc64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libbeecrypt.so.6()(64bit) vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3

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Current broken deps hidden by the freeze
by Jesse Keating 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Just an FYI, these are the broken deps in dist-f9 right now (for x86_64): Num Packages in Repos: 9643 package: 7:kdegraphics-libs-4.0.2-2.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler.so.2()(64bit) libpoppler-qt4.so.2()(64bit) package: azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: java-1.6.0.openjdk package: beagle-thunderbird-0.3.3.90-1.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: Thunderbird package: boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: mono(NAnt.DotNetTasks) = 0:0.85.2478.0 mono(NAnt.Core) = 0:0.85.2478.0 package: compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit) package: epdfview-0.1.6-2.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler-glib.so.2()(64bit) package: evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) package: flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: pycrypto package: gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libclamav.so.3()(64bit) package: inkscape-0.46-0.2.pre3.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler.so.2()(64bit) package: kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 package: klamav-0.42-1.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libclamav.so.3()(64bit) package: mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch from koji-static unresolved deps: php-pear-Auth-OpenID php-pear-Services-Yadis package: mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: perl(TruncFD) perl(Nbi) perl(Elf) package: pdfcube-0.0.2-7.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler-glib.so.2()(64bit) libpoppler.so.2()(64bit) package: perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) package: pigment-python-0.3.2-2.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpigment-0.3.so.3()(64bit) libpigment-gtk-0.3.so.3()(64bit) package: referencer-1.1.0-1.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler-glib.so.2()(64bit) package: ruby-poppler-0.16.0-27.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libpoppler-glib.so.2()(64bit) package: scim-lang-assamese-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-bengali-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-chinese-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-dhivehi-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-farsi-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-gujarati-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-hindi-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-japanese-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-kannada-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-korean-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-latin-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-malayalam-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-marathi-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-nepali-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-oriya-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-punjabi-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-sinhalese-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-tamil-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-telugu-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-thai-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: scim-lang-tibetan-1.4.7-18.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so package: util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: libbeecrypt.so.6()(64bit) package: vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 package: vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 from koji-static unresolved deps: vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Shortly I'm going to start running this in a hourly cron job and posting the results on a static url somewhere. This should help in fixing these issues prior to the rawhide compose run each night and keep things in a more consistently better state as we sprint toward Fedora 9. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

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a possible gsoc project
by Siddhant Goel 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Hi people. I have posted an idea on the Ubuntu Brainstorm website to get general opinions about it. You can see it here - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3801/ The comments sound positive. I wanted to have suggestions from more experienced people here. And if it does click, any possible mentor for it? :) Thanks, Regards, Siddhant

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rawhide report: 20080320 changes
by Fedora compose checker 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Updated Packages: azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9 ---------------------- * Tue Mar 18 2008 Lillian Angel <langel(a)redhat.com> - 3.0.4.2-12 - Fixed typo. - Updated Release. libdrm-2.4.0-0.10.fc9 --------------------- * Wed Mar 19 2008 Dave Airlie <airlied(a)redhat.com> 2.4.0-0.10 - force libdrm to make the node perms useful to everyone Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9.i386 requires java-1.6.0.openjdk boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.i386 requires mono(NAnt.Core) = 0:0.85.2478.0 boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.i386 requires mono(NAnt.DotNetTasks) = 0:0.85.2478.0 claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.i386 requires libkdecorations.so.1 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.i386 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.i386 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.i386 requires libclamav.so.3 mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(Nbi) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(Elf) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.i386 requires perl(TruncFD) perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.i386 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.i386 requires libbeecrypt.so.6 vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.i386 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.i386 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9.x86_64 requires java-1.6.0.openjdk boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.x86_64 requires mono(NAnt.Core) = 0:0.85.2478.0 boo-0.8.1.2865-2.fc9.x86_64 requires mono(NAnt.DotNetTasks) = 0:0.85.2478.0 claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.x86_64 requires libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit) evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.i386 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.x86_64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.x86_64 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.x86_64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.x86_64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(Nbi) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(Elf) mknbi-1.4.4-11.fc9.x86_64 requires perl(TruncFD) perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.x86_64 requires libbeecrypt.so.6()(64bit) vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.x86_64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9.ppc requires java-1.6.0.openjdk claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 compiz-kde-0.6.2-6.fc9.ppc requires libkdecorations.so.1 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc requires libcamel-1.2.so.10 evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.ppc requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.ppc requires libclamav.so.3 mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.ppc requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.ppc requires libbeecrypt.so.6 vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- azureus-3.0.4.2-12.fc9.ppc64 requires java-1.6.0.openjdk claws-mail-plugins-clamav-3.3.0-3.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) evolution-brutus-1.1.28.7-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.10()(64bit) flumotion-0.4.2-3.fc9.ppc64 requires pycrypto gurlchecker-0.10.1-6.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) kazehakase-0.5.0-1.fc9.2.ppc64 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.8.1.10 klamav-0.42-1.fc9.ppc64 requires libclamav.so.3()(64bit) mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Auth-OpenID mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires php-pear-Services-Yadis mediawiki-openid-0.7.0-5.noarch requires mediawiki perl-Test-AutoBuild-darcs-1.2.2-3.fc9.noarch requires darcs >= 0:1.0.0 perl-clearsilver-0.10.4-5.fc8.ppc64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) util-vserver-build-0.30.214-2.fc8.ppc64 requires libbeecrypt.so.6()(64bit) vtk-examples-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3 vtk-testing-5.0.3-22.fc9.ppc64 requires vtkdata = 0:5.0.3

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Be polite. Be helpful.
by Nils Philippsen 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Hi all, recently there were discussions on this list (and elsewhere) which stood out by the sheer lack of social graces some of us occasionally seem to employ when dealing with others. This wasn't a single, isolated, incidence but happened every now and again in the past, so here are, in the hope that we can improve this situation (and in order of what I deem decreasing significance), some things which deserve some fixing: 1. Calling people names, getting personal: This can only serve to poison the atmosphere. If you can't get your point across without calling somebody the "biggest troll under the sun", then it's probably not much of a point to begin with. Besides that, nothing I've seen here comes near the level of trolling I've seen elsewhere[2]. It's a good idea to keep discussions objective. This brings me to... 2. Needless exaggeration, hyperbole: It may be okay to call a program the "biggest piece of crap I've ever seen" in private, if you know the person well and can be sure they don't take it personally. Incidentally, most people you're dealing with around here are more likely strangers than not, so this exception won't apply very often. It's a good idea to see (and present) things a little more differentiated, this can only bolster your credibility. 3. Confusing opinion and truth: Not everything that annoys you is also an error, some things are matters of preference and in these cases usually the maintainer's preference trumps others ("who does wins"). That won't change very soon, so better not be grumpy about it. Likewise, it's good when maintainers care for those who use things differently than they (or the personae they envisioned) do -- you don't have to cater for every obscure use case, but acknowledging that some people do things differently and that their ways are equally valid helps much. Getting "I don't have the time to do that, but I'm open for patches if done properly" as an answer to a request leaves someone much more options than "You're not our target audience". Somewhat related: 4. Lack of patience and perspective: Sometimes things are broken, but awfully hard to fix correctly. Sometimes there are more pressing things to do first before the problem you have can be fixed. Sometimes a patch which helps you breaks stuff for others. That some things take their time doesn't mean that developers don't care about your problems. Ironically, developers can experience the same when having problems with packages maintained by others. Being rude to people usually won't increase the priority of your issues. Coming up with a patch (or bribing someone else to do so) might be a good first step here. I'm aware of the "Tact Filter Theory"[2] but it seems to me that some people (assuming that they read the piece) just think "That's exactly how it is." instead of adding "... and this is how I could improve myself in dealing with others." to the thought, i.e. they haven't read (or do ignore) the last paragraph. I'd like to summarize this by quoting Deb Richardson[3]: "Be polite. Be helpful. You're bright people. Extrapolate." Thanks, Nils (covering for Miss Manners for today) [1]: e.g. the discussions in the Heise Newsticker (sorry folks, this is not available in English): http://www.heise.de/newsticker [2]: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/tact.html [3]: http://www.dria.org -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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git & rawhide users - heads-up for after the beta freeze
by James Bowes 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

Due to lack of foresight on my part during the git-core to git rename, updates of git-core/git-all from F8 to rawhide were broken (the obsoletes version number was off). To fix this for the eventual F8 to F9 upgraders, I've changed the versioned obsoletes to work for such a case (provided that the version of git in F8 is not updated). Unfortunately, this means that once the beta freeze is over, rawhide users will have their git (the real one, not the metapackage) replaced by git-all on an update. You can work around this by running: remove git install git run inside 'yum shell'. Ideas are welcome, but I think this may be the best option. Sorry for the inconvenience, -James

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taking over orphaned package aget
by Ian Weller 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hi, I'm taking over the orphaned package aget. -- ian

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synaptics syndaemon 20ms polling loop
by Matt Domsch 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

http://www.bughost.org/pipermail/power/2008-January/001234.html notes that syndaemon wakes up every 20ms (50 times a second!) to see if it's idle timer (nominally 2.0 seconds) has expired yet. That's a little much. I'd like to apply the patch noted in the URL above (which opensuse is carrying), plus a patch to make it poll every 200ms, dropping the wakeups to 5/sec. Objections? Patches inline below. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --- ./syndaemon.c 2006-04-16 21:31:43.000000000 +0200 +++ ./syndaemon.c 2007-10-16 13:40:02.000000000 +0200 @@ -43,9 +43,11 @@ static void usage() { - fprintf(stderr, "Usage: syndaemon [-i idle-time] [-d] [-t] [-k]\n"); + fprintf(stderr, "Usage: syndaemon [-i idle-time] [-m poll-delay] [-d] [-t] [-k]\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -i How many seconds to wait after the last key press before\n"); fprintf(stderr, " enabling the touchpad. (default is 2.0s)\n"); + fprintf(stderr, " -m How many milli-seconds to wait until next poll.\n"); + fprintf(stderr, " (default is 20ms)\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -d Start as a daemon, ie in the background.\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -p Create a pid file with the specified name.\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -t Only disable tapping and scrolling, not mouse movements.\n"); @@ -159,9 +161,8 @@ } static void -main_loop(Display *display, double idle_time) +main_loop(Display *display, double idle_time, int poll_delay) { - const int poll_delay = 20000; /* 20 ms */ double last_activity = 0.0; double current_time; @@ -228,17 +229,21 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[]) { double idle_time = 2.0; + int poll_delay = 20000; /* 20 ms */ Display *display; int c; int shmid; int ignore_modifier_keys = 0; /* Parse command line parameters */ - while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "i:dtp:kK?")) != EOF) { + while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "i:m:dtp:kK?")) != EOF) { switch(c) { case 'i': idle_time = atof(optarg); break; + case 'm': + poll_delay = atoi(optarg) * 1000; + break; case 'd': background = 1; break; @@ -314,7 +319,7 @@ setup_keyboard_mask(display, ignore_modifier_keys); /* Run the main loop */ - main_loop(display, idle_time); + main_loop(display, idle_time, poll_delay); return 0; } --- synaptics-0.14.6/syndaemon.c.orig 2008-03-17 20:20:14.000000000 -0500 +++ synaptics-0.14.6/syndaemon.c 2008-03-17 20:30:35.000000000 -0500 @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ usage() fprintf(stderr, " -i How many seconds to wait after the last key press before\n"); fprintf(stderr, " enabling the touchpad. (default is 2.0s)\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -m How many milli-seconds to wait until next poll.\n"); - fprintf(stderr, " (default is 20ms)\n"); + fprintf(stderr, " (default is 200ms)\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -d Start as a daemon, ie in the background.\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -p Create a pid file with the specified name.\n"); fprintf(stderr, " -t Only disable tapping and scrolling, not mouse movements.\n"); @@ -229,7 +229,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { double idle_time = 2.0; - int poll_delay = 20000; /* 20 ms */ + int poll_delay = 200000; /* 200 ms */ Display *display; int c; int shmid;

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How can create a bootable DVD by myself
by zjsun 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hi, all If I post wrong list, please redirect it to the correct places I am a newbie to the package manangement in Fedora. There are thousands of packages in the Fedora's repository. 1. I want to select some packages I want, but I don't know what packages it depends on. Is it another spine??? How can I solve that? Using comp.xml to define that? 2. How can I create a bootable DVD/CD containing these packages? Which tool should I use? Punji??? Where can I find a useful tutorial on that? Thanks very much Best Regards Zongjun

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Plan for tomorrows (20080320) FESCO meeting
by Brian Pepple 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hi, Please find below the list of topics that are likely to come up in the next FESCo meeting that is scheduled for tomorrow, Thursday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org (Note change in time due to US DST): /topic FESCo-Meeting -- Bugzapper's Proposals - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-March/msg00425.html -- poelcat /topic FESCo-Meeting -- Features Completion - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases - poelcat /topic FESCo meeting -- Free discussion around Fedora You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to this mail and I'll add it to the schedule. You can also propose topics in the meeting while it is in the "Free discussion around Fedora" phase. If your name/nick is on above list please update the status on the Extras schedule pages in the wiki ahead of the meeting. That way all the other FESCo members and interested contributors know what up ahead of the meeting. And we will avoid long delays in the meeting -- those often arise if someone describes the recent happenings on a topic directly in the meeting while all the others have to wait for his slow typing... Later, /B -- Brian Pepple <bpepple(a)fedoraproject.org> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E

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