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Tools to mount and promote Fedora on cybers.
by Álvaro Castillo 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

Hello buddies, I want get more information about Fedora and tools to help on migration of cybers Windows into Fedora. But I only found old software such as Cyborg (2003), or Fedora KIOS Spin unmaintained (I don't know why was stopped maintain it). Can help me, please? Thank you so much! -- Álvaro Castillo Fedora Project, EMEA ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Netsys Linux user #547784

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Packages MUST NOT place files or directories in the /bin, /sbin, /lib or /lib64 directories
by Petr Pisar 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

I've just spotted usr-move has been completed. <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines?rd=Packaging/Guidelines…> states: In addition, Fedora packages MUST NOT place files or directories in the /bin, /sbin, /lib or /lib64 directories. Instead, the /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, and /usr/lib64 directories must be used. Is that true? Should I move /sbin/quotacheck and similar files to /usr/sbin? Should I file bug against bash, glibc, and other packages? Or should there be a list of exceptions? -- Petr

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F20 Self Contained Change: SDDM as the default KDE DM
by Jaroslav Reznik 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

= Proposed Self Contained Change: SDDM as the default KDE display manager instead of KDM = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM Change owner(s): Martin Briza <mbriza(a)redhat.com> and KDE SIG Retire KDM as the default display manager of the KDE Fedora Spin in favor of SDDM. == Detailed description == As described in many articles and discussions, KDM is nearing its end of life and it's time we decided upon the successor. I'm proposing to switch to SDDM, which is a new project that suits our needs perfectly despite its immaturity: As of July 2013, KDM's maintenance consists of bugfixes for the most painful bugs, consisting of only about 20 actual commits to the repository in last two years (excluding translation, themes and merges), adding many new features would require major changes to a lot of the code and there is no active maintainer. SDDM is written in C++11/Qt5 (compared to the bits of XDM in KDM), compilable against Qt4, supports QtQuick theming and its upstream is quite active. Compared to the current DM, KDM, it currently lacks a few features (such as XDMCP) but adds some other ones (QtQuick themes) or is currently adding them (Keyboard layout switching in the greeter). == Scope == Proposal owners: * Create sddm and sddm-kcm packages. * Change kde-settings and the spin-kickstarts to provide SDDM package instead of KDM * (eventually) exclude KDM from the kde-workspace package Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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F20 Self Contained Change: Role based access control with libvirt
by Jaroslav Reznik 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Role based access control with libvirt = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Virt_ACLs Change owner(s): Daniel P. Berrange <berrange(a)redhat.com>, Cole Robinson <crobinso(a)redhat.com> Allow role based access control with libvirt. == Detailed description == Libvirt role based access control will allow fine grained access control like 'user FOO can only start/stop/pause vm BAR', but for all libvirt APIs and objects. == Scope == Proposal owners: * 90% of the work is already in rawhide * Documentation needs to be written Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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what is the F19 way to disable ipv6?
by Reindl Harald 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

please take a look at this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740#c12 what do we do in the future to disable ipv6 entirely and why is "ipv6.disable=1" as kernel param at least with 3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 on F19?

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Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog
by Eric Smith 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

I vote against this proposal as stated. I want all the systems I administer to have a /var/log/messages without any special configuration having to be done. I don't care whether /var/log/messages is written by syslog or systemd journal, as long as it has essentially the same text-based format as presently provided by syslog, but having to take a manual step to configure systemd journal to produce it is unacceptable.

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Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail
by Eric Smith 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

+1 for this proposal. One of the first steps I take after installing Fedora on a new machine is to remove the MTA. It would be nice for this to be the default.

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Who uses abi-compliance-checker?
by Richard Shaw 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

I initially got abi-compliance-checker into Fedora because one of my packages does not maintain any sort of API/ABI compatibility or even versioning for that matter. That way I could always check a new release to see if any of its dependencies needed to be rebuilt. Since then, I've started using it for all of my libraries in the spirit of "Trust but verify", and I've occasionally found issues even though upstream didn't bump the soversion. So out of curiosity, anyone else using this great tool? If anyone is curious about it, I don't mind typing up the process I go through to make the checks. I think I've found a pretty good path of least resistance method :) Thanks, Richard

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F20 Self Contained Change: GNOME 3.10
by Jaroslav Reznik 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

= Proposed Self Contained Change: GNOME 3.10 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Gnome3.10 Change owner(s): Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> and the desktop SIG Update GNOME to the latest upstream release. == Detailed description == The highlights of GNOME 3.10 include * A new maps applications: gnome-maps * A new music application: gnome-music * A revamped system status menu * Flickr support in gnome-photos * Zimbra support in evolution Initial support running gnome-shell as a Wayland compositor is also a goal for 3.10, together with improved touch support and supported for scaled output on high-dpi displays. For detailed descriptions and designs of the features that are being worked on for GNOME 3.8, see the feature list [1]. == Scope == Proposal owners: * Keep existing GNOME packages updated * Follow upstream module changes * Package new applications and new dependencies of existing GNOME packages ** gnome-maps ** gnome-music ** gnome-software [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointNine/Features _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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sox lpc10 license
by Frantisek Kluknavsky 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

Hi list, package sox contains bundled lpc10 library. License of lpc10 is unknown to me and unknown to sox upstream. Probably nobody (probably including lpc10 authors) bothered too much about licensing. My questions: - Does anyone know its licensing status or original developers? Andy J. Fingerhut, previously associated with wustl.edu? - Does any package strictly require lpc10 functionality (linear predictive voice coder)? Can I tear it out of sox? repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps sox DVDAuthorWizard anki asterisk-voicemail dvd-slideshow festival-freebsoft-utils freewrl imagination licq mlt mozplugger openshot psi reinteract sox-plugins-freeworld terminatorX xwax - Can the whole issue be ignored? - Does Fedora contain other implementations of lpc10? Thank you very much. Frantisek Kluknavsky

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