On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:49 PM Miro Hrončok mhroncok@redhat.com wrote:
On 14. 11. 19 22:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:24 PM Miro Hrončok mhroncok@redhat.com
wrote:
Easy is subjective. I don't consider this easy. I consider it seriously overcomplicated. The idea that going modular will somehow help with
current
problems in modularity is exactly what happened to eclipse.
No, what happened to Eclipse is that the maintainers of maven and ant ran ahead without asking for input, created an environment that caused problems for Eclipse and Eclipse got backed into a corner.
As for overcomplicated, I think we can simplify it quite a lot, but I think I'm doing a poor job of explaining it over email. Perhaps we could do a Google Hangout tomorrow and discuss it real-time?
Sure thing. Please contact me off-list to discuss when to do this. I'm not entirely sure it can be tomorrow. I would like to have other Python maintainers there, especially those who have been involved in RHEL 8 Python modularization and Petr Viktorin (the team-lead) is on vacation tomorrow.
After tomorrow, I’m out of the office for two weeks. So I may see if I can brain-dump to Petr and have him meet with you folks.
I'm not going to do this. I guess that after the RHEL 8 experience,
neither are
the remaining Python maintainers.
Please defer judgement until we've talked out the whole idea. That's all
I ask.
I will try to do that, but I'm seriously biased here. I try not to be, but it's getting harder with every modularity thread on this list.
I understand. It’s been a rough road and it’s easy to get discouraged. I really feel like we are approaching the finish line and shouldn’t give up just yet!
Thank you for keeping an open mind. Your help and feedback has been invaluable.
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