Hi.
After some time I've done a new test spin of my kde live images today. What I've experienced is that most of the former installed fonts are missing. A diff between my released rawhide live image for KDE 4 and my current one is:
baekmuk-ttf-fonts-common baekmuk-ttf-fonts-gulim cjkunifonts-uming dejavu-lgc-fonts jomolhari-fonts kacst-fonts liberation-fonts lohit-fonts-bengali lohit-fonts-gujarati lohit-fonts-hindi lohit-fonts-kannada lohit-fonts-oriya lohit-fonts-punjabi lohit-fonts-tamil lohit-fonts-telugu paktype-fonts sazanami-fonts-gothic
The full diff is available here: http://pastebin.org/16733
In the past they were pulled in from comps.xml (or livecd-fedora-base-desktop.ks). So my question here is: Is this intended?
My full package list of my current live image: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList
For the record: I'm using this comps version: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-enchilada/linux/development/i386/...
Sebastian
Le Jeu 24 janvier 2008 00:29, Sebastian Vahl a écrit :
Hi.
Hi,
After some time I've done a new test spin of my kde live images today. What I've experienced is that most of the former installed fonts are missing. A diff between my released rawhide live image for KDE 4 and my current one is:
I know next to nothing about live images but I confirm that the fedora font landscape changed quite a bit since fedora 8 (new fonts, pulled fonts, renamed fonts, new defaults) so anything font-related done at F8 time probably needs to be revisited now
Regards,
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Jeu 24 janvier 2008 00:29, Sebastian Vahl a écrit :
Hi.
Hi,
After some time I've done a new test spin of my kde live images today. What I've experienced is that most of the former installed fonts are missing. A diff between my released rawhide live image for KDE 4 and my current one is:
I know next to nothing about live images but I confirm that the fedora font landscape changed quite a bit since fedora 8 (new fonts, pulled fonts, renamed fonts, new defaults) so anything font-related done at F8 time probably needs to be revisited now
Looking at a desktop spin, I see the following changes in the font area:
+abyssinica-fonts -dejavu-lgc-fonts -fonts-arabic -fonts-bengali -fonts-chinese -fonts-gujarati -fonts-hebrew -fonts-hindi -fonts-kannada -fonts-korean -fonts-malayalam -fonts-oriya -fonts-punjabi -fonts-sinhala -fonts-tamil -fonts-telugu -liberation-fonts +samyak-fonts +VLGothic-fonts +VLGothic-fonts-proportional -xorg-x11-fonts-truetype
It suspiciously looks like a lot more - than +, so I'd appreciate some input on what needs to be fixed here.
Le Jeu 24 janvier 2008 14:57, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
It suspiciously looks like a lot more - than +, so I'd appreciate some input on what needs to be fixed here.
You can check F8 and F9 changes in default fonts by diff-ing http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/comps/comps-f9.xml.in and http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/comps/comps-f8.xml.in
and looking at the "fonts" group. You'll see what got bumped as default (dejavu-full), what got demoted (dejavu-lgc), what got renamed (all the indic font packages IIRC)
(though it would be nice to tag the exact comps version that gets in a release, instead of diffing with post-release F8 comps changes)
I think your problem is all those changes have not been integrated by the people in charge of the desktop spin package list, and you're filtering the old F8 package list with the new F9 comps (though the - before liberation is strange, it was not touched in any way except for a version bump)
Regards,
Am Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:30:40 +0100 (CET) schrieb "Nicolas Mailhot" nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net:
Le Jeu 24 janvier 2008 00:29, Sebastian Vahl a écrit :
Hi.
Hi,
After some time I've done a new test spin of my kde live images today. What I've experienced is that most of the former installed fonts are missing. A diff between my released rawhide live image for KDE 4 and my current one is:
I know next to nothing about live images but I confirm that the fedora font landscape changed quite a bit since fedora 8 (new fonts, pulled fonts, renamed fonts, new defaults) so anything font-related done at F8 time probably needs to be revisited now
That's the point: For F8 I was relying on comps.xml to pull the most needed fonts in automatically. This was also working 2 weeks ago (for the kde4 image). But it seems that this has changed after that.
I've re-included the fonts manually but IMHO I should talk to the fonts sig what fonts are really needed.
My current list: baekmuk-ttf-fonts-common baekmuk-ttf-fonts-gulim bitmap-fonts cjkunifonts-uming dejavu-lgc-fonts ghostscript-fonts jomolhari-fonts kacst-fonts liberation-fonts lohit-fonts-bengali lohit-fonts-gujarati lohit-fonts-hindi lohit-fonts-kannada lohit-fonts-oriya lohit-fonts-punjabi lohit-fonts-tamil lohit-fonts-telugu paktype-fonts sazanami-fonts-gothic urw-fonts xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-misc xorg-x11-fonts-Type1
Sebastian
Le jeudi 24 janvier 2008 à 21:09 +0100, Sebastian Vahl a écrit :
Am Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:30:40 +0100 (CET)
I know next to nothing about live images but I confirm that the fedora font landscape changed quite a bit since fedora 8 (new fonts, pulled fonts, renamed fonts, new defaults) so anything font-related done at F8 time probably needs to be revisited now
That's the point: For F8 I was relying on comps.xml to pull the most needed fonts in automatically. This was also working 2 weeks ago (for the kde4 image). But it seems that this has changed after that.
That's strange because comps/comps-f9.xml.in in cvs seems perfectly fine to me, and Jens and me have updated it with our font changes regularly.
I've re-included the fonts manually but IMHO I should talk to the fonts sig what fonts are really needed.
The SIG is likely to complain localization groups didn't fill http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/L10N :p