On 04/22/2009 07:04 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
What is the proper procedure to update infrastructure components like udev or hal without rebooting the machine? udev for example doesn't have an init script.
Given the expected increased use of virtualization reboots of the host machine are going to become more and more painful. This should probably be taken into account when designing these component and/or packaging them.
Regards, Dennis
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 19:12 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
On 04/22/2009 07:04 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
What is the proper procedure to update infrastructure components like udev or hal without rebooting the machine? udev for example doesn't have an init script.
Given the expected increased use of virtualization reboots of the host machine are going to become more and more painful. This should probably be taken into account when designing these component and/or packaging them.
Uhh, actually I find virtualization makes rebooting the host easier. My server is running CentOS 5 with its previous Debian install running in a Xen VM, that still handles most of the services. Apparently when the host reboots, the VM is automatically hibernated, and restored on the next boot. The VM hardly notices anything happened at all, just a temporary lack of network connection and CPU time... :)
The more disruptive thing is, doesn't everyone's *VM*s need to be patched and rebooted now too? :P
Callum Lerwick seg@haxxed.com writes:
Uhh, actually I find virtualization makes rebooting the host easier. My server is running CentOS 5 with its previous Debian install running in a Xen VM, that still handles most of the services. Apparently when the host reboots, the VM is automatically hibernated, and restored on the next boot. The VM hardly notices anything happened at all, just a temporary lack of network connection and CPU time... :)
The people trying to use the VM in the meantime aren't very happy, and reboots take approximately forever if you have a decent amount of guests.
That said, I don't let untrusted users into the host.
/Benny
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Dennis J. wrote:
What is the proper procedure to update infrastructure components like udev or hal without rebooting the machine? udev for example doesn't have an init script.
udev is fired off from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit . To restart udevd, kill the process and run /sbin/start_udev
Michael Young
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Neal Becker ndbecker2@gmail.com wrote:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-3711 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-3712
josh
On 2009-04-22, 17:04 GMT, Neal Becker wrote:
Please don't spam this list with your newsbits. No one is bound to look here (for example udev maintainers may never see this). Go and file a bug in the bugzilla, if you think it is important (and check first, that it has not been already filed).
Matej
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