Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 07/12/2017 01:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 12.07.2017 um 13:24 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
> > On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > > > Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD 
> > > > > caught up
> > > > > with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE2,
> > > > > regardless of whether the above change is accepted.
> > > >
> > > > If you require SSE2, you limit the usefulness of the i686 kernel to
> > > > basically just a single generation of CPUs, the next generation 
> > > > introduced
> > > > x86_64.
> > >
> > > Right. It probably makes sense to abandon i686 kernels altogether,
> > > then.
> >
> > If you intend to kill Fedora, and furtherly emphasize the impression 
> > of Fedora not being community driven distro :(
>
> that is FUD and polemic

Well, I of course have disagree. The course Fedora has taken is obvious: 
Servers and  containers.

And the course Fedora i686 has taken leads users directly to Ubuntu, 
Debian, Windows or the trash bin.
> i strongly doubt a relevant usebase is on i686 kernels at all for 
> reasons mutilple times explained - why would anybody run a bleeding 
> edge distribution seriously on ages old hardware

Like I said before, I doubt the arm, powerpc etc. to have a user-base 
which is magnitudes smaller than the i686.

No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:36:22PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > that is FUD and polemic
>
> Well, I of course have disagree. The course Fedora has taken is
> obvious: Servers and  containers.

I don't understand this perception. Yes, servers and containers are
important. But we pretty clearly have a prominent top-level
desktop-focused edition (Workstation, of course) plus *seven* other
desktop spins plus several desktop-focused labs. A large portion of the
articles we publish on Fedora Magazine are desktop-focused. And a huge 
number of Fedora contributors are interested in Linux on the desktop.

Our strategy is and has been to make Fedora relevant in three major
areas: the server room, the cloud, *and* desktops.