I don't know much about this subject, but I saw this thread on ubuntu. I, as many others, have seen problems with beagle.
BTW, this ubuntu whiteboard is also very interesting. https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration https://launchpad.net/products/tracker
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Subject: Re: Beagle badness From: Johan Kiviniemi ubuntu.com-devel@johan.kiviniemi.name Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:46:24 -0500 Newsgroup: gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:18:04PM -0500, Samuel Cormier-Iijima wrote:
There is a proposal to include Tracker by default: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration I think this would fix most of the performance problems people are having
In addition to minimal resource usage, Meta Tracker has some very appealing features over Beagle, such as RDF searches and very flexible metadata storage (arbitrary tags or other metadata can be attached to files).
The CVS version https://launchpad.net/products/tracker/trunk has evolved nicely since the last release.
Neal Becker wrote:
I don't know much about this subject, but I saw this thread on ubuntu. I, as many others, have seen problems with beagle.
BTW, this ubuntu whiteboard is also very interesting. https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration https://launchpad.net/products/tracker
Well Tracker is now in Fedora Extras. So end users can use both.
Pros: Written in C. Much faster index, searching and memory consumption Cons: Missing filters yet for email, IM and a lot of code churn.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I don't know much about this subject, but I saw this thread on ubuntu. I, as many others, have seen problems with beagle.
BTW, this ubuntu whiteboard is also very interesting. https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration https://launchpad.net/products/tracker
Well Tracker is now in Fedora Extras. So end users can use both.
Is that maybe in devel only? I don't see any tracker in FC6 extras: smart search tracker
adplug - A software library for AdLib (OPL2) emulation dumb - IT, XM, S3M and MOD player library gnotime - Tracks and reports time spent ktorrent - A BitTorrent program for KDE rt3 - Request tracker 3 soundtracker - Sound module composer/player svnmailer - Tool to post subversion repository commit information tcpick - A tcp stream sniffer, tracker and capturer trac - Enhanced wiki and issue tracking system
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 08:23 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I don't know much about this subject, but I saw this thread on ubuntu. I, as many others, have seen problems with beagle.
BTW, this ubuntu whiteboard is also very interesting. https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration https://launchpad.net/products/tracker
Well Tracker is now in Fedora Extras. So end users can use both.
Is that maybe in devel only? I don't see any tracker in FC6 extras: smart search tracker
adplug - A software library for AdLib (OPL2) emulation dumb - IT, XM, S3M and MOD player library gnotime - Tracks and reports time spent ktorrent - A BitTorrent program for KDE rt3 - Request tracker 3 soundtracker - Sound module composer/player svnmailer - Tool to post subversion repository commit information tcpick - A tcp stream sniffer, tracker and capturer trac - Enhanced wiki and issue tracking system
there's one small problem with tracker, actually.
mikmod - in core obsoletes 'tracker'.
this is obviously an old obsolete but it does prevent you from installing tracker on fc6 machines.
run this: yum --exclude=mikmod install tracker
and it will install, however, it will be removed on the next yum update run w/mikmod.
maybe a bug against mikmod to clip that old obsolete?
-sv
seth vidal wrote:
there's one small problem with tracker, actually.
mikmod - in core obsoletes 'tracker'.
this is obviously an old obsolete but it does prevent you from installing tracker on fc6 machines.
run this: yum --exclude=mikmod install tracker
and it will install, however, it will be removed on the next yum update run w/mikmod.
maybe a bug against mikmod to clip that old obsolete?
The review here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214025 says that mikmod issue has been fixed in rawhide, so it probably just requires a push into updates now.
Rahul
On 11/10/06, seth vidal skvidal@linux.duke.edu wrote:
there's one small problem with tracker, actually.
mikmod - in core obsoletes 'tracker'.
This has been fixed yesterday on FC-5, FC-6 and devel. (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214112)
Deji
Neal Becker wrote:
I don't know much about this subject, but I saw this thread on ubuntu. I, as many others, have seen problems with beagle.
BTW, this ubuntu whiteboard is also very interesting. https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/tracker-integration https://launchpad.net/products/tracker
Tracker has been proposed[1] to be included into GNOME and has been rejected for various reasons. See the thread for full details, but Joe's reply[2] lists some good reasons to not include tracker at this time.
[1]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00175.html [2]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00211.html
On 11/11/06, Christopher Aillon caillon@redhat.com wrote:
Tracker has been proposed[1] to be included into GNOME and has been rejected for various reasons. See the thread for full details, but Joe's reply[2] lists some good reasons to not include tracker at this time.
[1]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00175.html [2]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00211.html
His main complaint seems to be that tracker hasn't had a lot of testing. Maybe Fedora can help in that respect by putting it in devel and getting the community using it.
n0dalus.
n0dalus wrote:
On 11/11/06, Christopher Aillon caillon@redhat.com wrote:
Tracker has been proposed[1] to be included into GNOME and has been rejected for various reasons. See the thread for full details, but Joe's reply[2] lists some good reasons to not include tracker at this time.
[1]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00175.html
[2]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00211.html
His main complaint seems to be that tracker hasn't had a lot of testing. Maybe Fedora can help in that respect by putting it in devel and getting the community using it.
n0dalus.
There are also problems with the code quality, or lack thereof. It's dissected somewhere else in the thread.
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Christopher Aillon wrote:
n0dalus wrote:
On 11/11/06, Christopher Aillon caillon@redhat.com wrote:
Tracker has been proposed[1] to be included into GNOME and has been rejected for various reasons. See the thread for full details, but Joe's reply[2] lists some good reasons to not include tracker at this time.
[1]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00175.html
[2]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00211.html
His main complaint seems to be that tracker hasn't had a lot of testing. Maybe Fedora can help in that respect by putting it in devel and getting the community using it.
n0dalus.
There are also problems with the code quality, or lack thereof. It's dissected somewhere else in the thread.
If we're not going to let packages in based on code quality "standards" then we're going to be kicking out a lot packages I think.
-sv
seth vidal wrote:
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Christopher Aillon wrote:
There are also problems with the code quality, or lack thereof. It's dissected somewhere else in the thread.
If we're not going to let packages in based on code quality "standards" then we're going to be kicking out a lot packages I think.
What is going to be default generally has higher standards applied to them. There already is a lot of packages discouraged for their code quality. I know atleast phpbb and webmin were put up for review and left off in the middle when people pointed out their security history and need for constant vigilance.
Rahul
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 10:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
seth vidal wrote:
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Christopher Aillon wrote:
There are also problems with the code quality, or lack thereof. It's dissected somewhere else in the thread.
If we're not going to let packages in based on code quality "standards" then we're going to be kicking out a lot packages I think.
What is going to be default generally has higher standards applied to them. There already is a lot of packages discouraged for their code quality. I know atleast phpbb and webmin were put up for review and left off in the middle when people pointed out their security history and need for constant vigilance.
There's a sharp distinction between: riddled with security holes and "code is not pretty enough"
-sv
lør, 11 11 2006 kl. 17:22 -0500, skrev seth vidal:
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 16:31 -0500, Christopher Aillon wrote:
n0dalus wrote:
On 11/11/06, Christopher Aillon caillon@redhat.com wrote:
Tracker has been proposed[1] to be included into GNOME and has been rejected for various reasons. See the thread for full details, but Joe's reply[2] lists some good reasons to not include tracker at this time.
[1]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00175.html
[2]http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00211.html
His main complaint seems to be that tracker hasn't had a lot of testing. Maybe Fedora can help in that respect by putting it in devel and getting the community using it.
n0dalus.
There are also problems with the code quality, or lack thereof. It's dissected somewhere else in the thread.
If we're not going to let packages in based on code quality "standards" then we're going to be kicking out a lot packages I think.
Okay, the lead developer Jamie McCracken has kindly offered to answer questions regarding Tracker. So ask your questions and get the answer straight from the horses mouth.
- David Nielsen
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