Re: Regarding the Mirror structure and Fedora Legacy
by Jef Spaleta
Warren Togami wrote:
> The current discussion between RH people and the interim Fedora Legacy
> planning team [1] seems to be that Legacy will not publish packages
> within the regular Fedora mirror structure. Instead both RH and Legacy
> want users to consciously change their configurations to point to the
> new location when a distribution hits the point of EOL, in order to
> make it clear that the packages are coming from a different source
> than those officially published and supported by RH the company.
Are there lurking trademark issues here as well...with regard to using
"Fedora" to describe what "legacy" is. I'm not sure if this plan for
Fedora Legacy, falls within the current Trademark Guidelines for the
mark "Fedora." Simply put...can it even be called "Fedora Legacy" under
the currently stated trademark guidelines, if it has a separate
distribution structure?
-jef"nothing beats a new pair of shoes...especially when they are steel
toed, and water-proof, and the government pays for them"spaleta
20 years, 6 months
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Re: Gentoo Linux faster app-load than (Mandrake|Fedora)
by Jef Spaleta
Mark Mielke wrote:
> This perspective is a little cynical. The tester was quite clear that
> the results *can* be disputed. It goes further to point out that Mandrake
> may be running more services (i.e. the free RAM is not equivalent), and
> it also points to the kernel patch set (i.e. not just the compiler flags)
20 years, 6 months
rawhide report: 20031009 changes
by Build System
Removed package redhat-logos
Updated Packages:
anaconda-9.0.95-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Anaconda team <bugzilla(a)redhat.com>
- built new version from CVS
* Tue Oct 08 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- back to mainstream rpm instead of rpm404
* Mon Sep 09 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- can't buildrequire dietlibc and kernel-pcmcia-cs since they don't always
exist
* Wed Aug 21 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- added URL
* Thu May 23 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- add require and buildrequire on rhpl
* Tue Apr 02 2002 Michael Fulbright <msf(a)redhat.com>
- added some more docs
* Fri Feb 22 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- buildrequire kernel-pcmcia-cs as we've sucked the libs the loader needs
to there now
* Thu Feb 07 2002 Michael Fulbright <msf(a)redhat.com>
- goodbye reconfig
* Thu Jan 31 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- update the BuildRequires a bit
* Fri Jan 04 2002 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- ddcprobe is now done from kudzu
* Wed Jul 18 2001 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com>
- own /usr/lib/anaconda and /usr/share/anaconda
* Fri Jan 12 2001 Matt Wilson <msw(a)redhat.com>
- sync text with specspo
* Thu Aug 10 2000 Matt Wilson <msw(a)redhat.com>
- build on alpha again now that I've fixed the stubs
* Wed Aug 09 2000 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- new build
* Fri Aug 04 2000 Florian La Roche <Florian.LaRoche(a)redhat.com>
- allow also subvendorid and subdeviceid in trimpcitable
* Fri Jul 14 2000 Matt Wilson <msw(a)redhat.com>
- moved init script for reconfig mode to /etc/init.d/reconfig
- move the initscript back to /etc/rc.d/init.d
- Prereq: /etc/init.d
* Thu Feb 03 2000 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- strip files
- add lang-table to file list
* Wed Jan 05 2000 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- added requirement for rpm-python
* Mon Dec 06 1999 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- rename to 'anaconda' instead of 'anaconda-reconfig'
* Fri Dec 03 1999 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- remove ddcprobe since we don't do X configuration in reconfig now
* Tue Nov 30 1999 Michael Fulbright <drmike(a)redhat.com>
- first try at packaging reconfiguration tool
bind-9.2.2.P3-6
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Daniel Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 9.2.2.P3-6
- Fix local time in log file
caching-nameserver-7.2-8
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com>
- Change to handle chroot environments.
cdlabelgen-2.6.1-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> 2.6.1-1
- Updated to new version 2.6.1
cdrtools-2.01-0.a19.1
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dhcp-3.0pl2-6.16
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1:3.0pl2-6.16
- Fix location of ntp driftfile
dialog-0.9b-20031002.1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 0.9b-20031002.1
- version 20031002
dvd+rw-tools-5.13.4.7.4-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 5.13.4.7.4-1
- version 5.13.4.7.4
dvdrtools-0.1.5-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 0.1.5-1
- version 0.1.5
fedora-release-0.95-1
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firstboot-1.2.2-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Brent Fox <bfox(a)redhat.com> 1.2.2-1
- remove up2date module from Fedora
gkrellm-2.1.20-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.de> 2.1.20-1
- update to make it work with kernel 2.6
httpd-2.0.47-8
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 2.0.47-8
- use -fPIE not -fpie to fix s390x (Florian La Roche)
- include VERSIONING in docdir
* Mon Oct 06 2003 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 2.0.47-7
- enable PIE support
- include bug fix for #78019
initscripts-7.36-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com. 7.36-1
- mount /dev/pts before starting rhgb
mozilla-1.4.1-5
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nmap-3.48-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 2:3.48-1
- version 3.48
openoffice.org-1.1.0-2
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* Tue Oct 07 2003 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> 1.1.0-2
- add obsoletes to subpackages
rawhide-release-20031009-1
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redhat-artwork-0.82-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> 0.82-1
- Icon fixes
redhat-config-boot-0.1.3-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 0.1.3-1
- added po files
* Thu Oct 02 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 0.1.2-1
- fixed desktop file
redhat-config-network-1.3.7-1
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.de> 1.3.7
- merged in changes from Taroon
zlib-1.2.0.7-2
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* Wed Oct 08 2003 Jeff Johnson <jbj(a)jbj.org> 1.2.0.7-2
- fix: gzeof not set when reading compressed file (#106424).
- fix: revert zlib.h include constants for now (#106291).
20 years, 6 months
Regarding the Mirror structure and Fedora Legacy
by Warren Togami
[This was posted to Red Hat's mirror discussion list during a thread
about the new Fedora mirror structure. Please do not cross-post replies
as the ramifications of the mirror structure will effect all parties, so
fedora-devel-list is appropriate for this discussion.]
The current discussion between RH people and the interim Fedora Legacy
planning team [1] seems to be that Legacy will not publish packages
within the regular Fedora mirror structure. Instead both RH and Legacy
want users to consciously change their configurations to point to the
new location when a distribution hits the point of EOL, in order to make
it clear that the packages are coming from a different source than those
officially published and supported by RH the company.
I personally really dislike this as I had hoped that Legacy would simply
publish packages within the same directory, making it easy for the users
and system administrators. Despite some protests from irrational people
like me, it seems that the distribution system will need to be separate.
There is already discussion about Pogo Linux supplying the server
infrastructure for Legacy to be hosted somewhere in the Seattle area.
Given the separateness of the repositories, the setup and transition as
well as choosing of mirrors for both regular Fedora and Legacy would be
eased by a theoretical GUI/TUI program that downloads a GPG signed list
of official mirrors, and allows the administrator to choose. I hope
that we can work on such a program for the future of Fedora.
[1]
https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
Fedora Legacy discussion list
Warren Togami
warren(a)togami.com
20 years, 6 months
Japanese OpenOffice 1.1.0
by Warren Togami
http://togami.com/~warren/archive/2003/nihongo-ooo-1.1.0.png
I am happy to report that Japanese input in OpenOffice 1.1.0 works fine
after you enable Japanese mode within the Language settings of the
Configuration menu. I am extremely happy that it now automatically
chooses the Japanese font "Kochi Mincho" rather than the user needing to
choose it manually.
In order to run it from English mode, run the following from a script:
#!/bin/bash
kinput2 -canna &
LANG=ja_JP XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2" oowriter
There is a slight problem where the little kinput2 has a blank rectangle
within it rather than the usual Japanese characters. I suspect it isn't
set to use the correct font internally. I will file this in Bugzilla.
(I am not sure if my grammar in the above screenshot is correct. Please
correct me if it is wrong. =)
Warren Togami
warren(a)togami.com
20 years, 6 months
Re: Does the freeworld repository exist yet?
by Nils O. Selåsdal
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 13:44, Dams wrote:
> blender 2.28 seems to be linked against smpeg which is in freeworld
> (like all mpeg related packages)..
>
> D
>
> Le mar 07/10/2003 à 08:58, =?ISO-8859-1?Q? Nils O. Sel=E5sdal?= a écrit
> :
> > Why is Blender there ? Does it violate anything ?
Blender + openal can probably be rebuilt without smpeg.
Should it be done ?
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Re: Does the freeworld repository exist yet?
by Nils O. Selåsdal
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:22, Warren Togami wrote:
> Nils O. Selsdal wrote:
> >
> > Blender + openal can probably be rebuilt without smpeg.
> > Should it be done ?
>
> I would prefer that it wouldn't. Rather than distribute crippled
> binaries, why not instead make binary compatible dummy packages for the
> US-centric distribution. Here's an example of libdvdcss.
>
> https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=453
> Ideally a binary compatible dummy package would contain everything
> necessary to link against it, but infringing functionality is cut out
> and replaced by annoying pop-up windows that say the function is removed
> and why, but not how to fix it because that would be a violation of the
> DMCA in many cases.
>
> And yes I am completely serious about annoying pop-up windows. TRY the
> libdvdcss contained in the linked Bugzilla report above.
It's a nice concept, but seems like a pain to keep the real library
and the dummy one in sync as the library gets updated.
> The the American user would then be legally powerless to do anything,
> but those living in other countries where it is not illegal could
> possibly replace the real library if the package exists.
It will probably also be a pain for users tracking/deciding wether it
is illegal in their country or not.(for the 1% of users that actually
care..)
> Being a patriotic and law abiding American, it would be treasonous to my
> country's corporate interests to point to such a theoretical repository.
>
> God bless America and everything it stands for. I love this country.
> Don't you?
I'll probably not comment on that..
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VNC
by Edward Muller
Any reason why RealVNC 4.0b4 is included in Fedora instead of the
current tightvnc, of which an older version was included in RHL 9?
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