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rawhide report: 20040529 changes
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Updated Packages: SysVinit-2.85-27 ---------------- * Thu May 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 2.85-26 - Use selinux_getenforcemode * Tue May 25 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 2.85-25 - Change to use /etc/sysconfig/selinux to find policy file. anaconda-10.0.1-0.20040528163734 -------------------------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Anaconda team <bugzilla(a)redhat.com> - built new version from CVS * Fri Apr 30 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - Update description, remove prereq on stuff that was only needed for reconfig mode * Tue Feb 24 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - buildrequire libselinux-devel devlabel-0.48.01-3 ------------------ * Fri May 28 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 0.48.01-3 - fix warnings (#124442, <harald(a)redhat.com>) kernel-2.6.6-1.397 ------------------ * Thu May 27 2004 Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev(a)redhat.com> - Fix qeth and zfcp (s390 drivers): align qib by 256, embedded into qdio_irq. libselinux-1.13.2-1 ------------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.2-1 -Update with latest from NSA rpmdb-fedora-2-0.20040529 ------------------------- selinux-policy-strict-1.13.2-2 ------------------------------ * Fri May 28 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.2-2 - Only update policy if this policy is running * Fri May 28 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.2-1 - Update to match NSA * Thu May 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.1-2 - Change location of file_contexts and add new security contexts selinux-policy-targeted-1.13.2-2 -------------------------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.2-2 - Only update policy if this policy is running * Fri May 28 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.2-1 - Update to match NSA * Thu May 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.1-2 - Change location of file_contexts and add new security contexts subversion-1.0.4-1.1 -------------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 1.0.4-1.1 - rebuild for new swig vnc-4.0-1.beta5.4 ----------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 4.0-1.beta5.4 - Further vnc.def fix. - Fix cursor handling for hotspots outside the bounding rectangle.

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selinux disabled in new kernel
by Gary Peck 28 May '04

28 May '04

i just upgraded to the latest rawhide, including kernel-2.6.6-1.394 and selinux-policy-*-1.13.1-1 among others, and when i reboot selinux is no longer enabled. dmesg shows the following lines: ... Calibrating delay loop... 1708.03 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized *** SELinux: Disabled at boot. Capability LSM initialized Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) ... however, my boot line was: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.394 ro root=/dev/mapper/Volume00-Fedora and /etc/sysconfig/selinux and /etc/selinux/config both contain: SELINUX=permissive if i boot back into kernel-2.6.6-1.381, then selinux seems to get initialized correctly. gary

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kernel-smp missing in updates/testing?
by Chris Adams 28 May '04

28 May '04

There is a kernel update in updates/testing/2/i386, but there is no corresponding kernel-smp. Is this intentional, a mistake in the newer build process for the kernel packaging, or something else? -- Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

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rpm groups and fedora: a modest proposal
by Matthew Miller 28 May '04

28 May '04

One of the vestigial tags in the rpm format is "Group". Long ago, this was used by the installer to sort out packages by function, to make it easier to choose what you wanted installed. But recent installers don't really use this -- it was found to be more maintainable to keep this metainformation in the 'comps' file, external to the packages themselves. And, although this isn't intrinsic to the rpm-group vs. comps-group switch, the rpm-groups tend to be organized so that you look at the group and pick which members you want (chosing, for example, GNOME from "User Interface/Desktops") while the comps-groups are the other way around: pick "GNOME Desktop", and it installs all the GNOME bits you might want. This is generally better and more useful. The canonical list of valid RPM groups is /usr/share/doc/rpm-*/GROUPS. Theoretically, all packages should have a group listed here. But often, there's not a very good fit -- does all science and math go under "Applications/Engineering"? And even Fedora itself doesn't hold to this: there's a bunch of random "Applications/CPAN", "Networking/Other", "Desktop/Accessibility", and probably more. Now, one approach would be to reevaluate the canonical list -- reorganize it a bit, make some broader groups, and so on, and then make sure all packages properly fit that list. But that's not my suggestion. I think Group has become too ugly to be properly saved. Applications like synaptic should instead use the comps file groups for organizational purposes. In fact, there's already a lua script for at-get to make it do exactly that. (I dunno what up2date does -- I haven't used it.) Meanwhile, the Group tag itself should be reduced in function. I suggest very very vastly reduced: it should simply be "Core" for Fedora Core, "Extras" for Fedora Extras, "Legacy" for Fedora Legacy, and "Alternatives" for Fedora Alternatives. Or, if that's too much like the big disttags argument, it should simply be "Fedora", and then phased out completely. (Packages with no group would default to "Fedora", and then it could eventually stop being listed in the spec file completely.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>

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rawhide report: 20040528 changes
by Build System 28 May '04

28 May '04

New package selinux-policy-strict SELinux strict policy configuration New package selinux-policy-targeted SELinux targeted policy configuration Updated Packages: PyQt-3.12-1 ----------- * Thu May 27 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 3.12-1 - update to 3.12 - add BuildRequires on python-devel sip-devel , bug #124417 cups-1.1.20-12 -------------- * Thu May 27 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.1.20-12 - D-BUS changes. * Wed May 26 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.1.20-11 - Build requires make >= 3.80 (bug #124472). dovecot-0.99.10.5-1 ------------------- * Thu May 27 2004 David Woodhouse <dwmw2(a)redhat.com> 0.99.10.5-1 - Update to 0.99.10.5 to fix maildir segfaults (#123022) elinks-0.9.1-2 -------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 0.9.1-2 - Use UTF-8 by default (bug #76445). exim-4.34-1 ----------- * Wed May 12 2004 David Woodhouse <dwmw2(a)redhat.com> 4.34-1 - Update to Exim 4.34, exiscan-acl 4.34-21 glibc-2.3.3-31 -------------- * Fri May 28 2004 Jakub Jelinek <jakub(a)redhat.com> 2.3.3-31 - update from CVS - <bits/string2.h> and <bits/mathinline.h> changes for GCC 3.{2,4,5}+ - make c_stubs buildable even with GCC 3.2.x (#123042) joe-3.0-2.3 ----------- * Thu May 27 2004 Lon Hohberger <lhh(a)redhat.com> 3.0-2.3 - Include HINTS NEWS LIST in %doc line (#124464) * Mon May 03 2004 Lon Hohberger <lhh(a)redhat.com> 3.0-2.1 - Fix /etc/joe/joe/* sysconf dirs; the new Makefile.am handles this for us. - Ensure we reference correct directories in manpages and joe-configs. * Wed Apr 28 2004 Lon Hohberger <lhh(a)redhat.com> 3.0-2 - Rebuild. kernel-2.6.6-1.394 ------------------ * Thu May 27 2004 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com> - Fix the crashes on boot on Asus P4P800 boards. (#121819) * Wed May 26 2004 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com> - Lots more updates to the SCSI whitelist for various USB card readers. (#112778, among others..) libselinux-1.13.1-1 ------------------- * Thu May 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13.1-1 - Change to use new policy mechanism * Mon May 17 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.12-2 - add man patch * Fri May 14 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.12-1 - Update with latest from NSA openssl-0.9.7a-36 ----------------- * Tue May 25 2004 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin(a)redhat.com> 0.9.7a-36 - handle %{_arch}=i486/i586/i686/athlon cases in the intermediate header (#124303) php-4.3.6-5 ----------- * Wed May 19 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 4.3.6-5 - don't obsolete php-imap (#123580) - unconditionally build -imap subpackage * Thu May 13 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 4.3.6-4 - remove trigger * Thu Apr 22 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 4.3.6-3 - fix umask reset "feature" (#121454) - don't use DL_GLOBAL when dlopen'ing extension modules policycoreutils-1.13-3 ---------------------- * Tue May 25 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13-3 - Change location of file_context file * Tue May 25 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.13-2 - Change to use /etc/sysconfig/selinux to determine location of policy files rpmdb-fedora-2-0.20040528 ------------------------- sip-3.10.2-1 ------------ * Thu May 27 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 3.10.2-1 - update to 3.10.2 stunnel-4.05-2 -------------- * Thu May 27 2004 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin(a)redhat.com> 4.05-2 - move the sample configuration to %doc, it shouldn't be used as-is (#124373) subversion-1.0.4-1 ------------------ * Sat May 22 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 1.0.4-1 - update to 1.0.4 * Fri May 21 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 1.0.3-2 - build /usr/bin/* as PIEs - add fix for libsvn_client symbol namespace violation (r9608) * Wed May 19 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 1.0.3-1 - update to 1.0.3 switchdesk-4.0.4-1 ------------------ * Wed May 26 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 4.0.4-1 - fix wrong RB id of enlightenment which causes switchdesk crashed #124408 - fix bug in setting default wm, bug #124292, #122260 - fix bug in creating .Xclients, bug #123545 - add selection button for System Default #110312 system-config-securitylevel-1.3.13-2 ------------------------------------ * Thu May 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.3.13-2 - Change lokkit to support new SELinux mode usermode-1.70-4 --------------- * Tue May 25 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.70-4 - Support new policy files * Thu May 20 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.70-3 - Change user context to default name if username context not in passwd file vnc-4.0-1.beta5.3 ----------------- * Thu May 27 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 4.0-1.beta5.3 - Fix ppc64 build. - Fix debuginfo package. - Another fix for REGION_INIT usage.

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OT: Livna.org rsync access down?
by Aaron Bennett 28 May '04

28 May '04

Hello, Sorry for the off-topic post -- I'm hoping there will be others reading this list with the same issue... I haven't been able to rsync from rpm.livna.org for a few weeks. At http://liva.org is a message saying their system is down. Has anyone else found this? Anyone have an rsync-able livna.org mirror? Cheers, Aaron Bennett UNIX Administrator Olin College

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XP Dual Boot Problems - contribution from a newbie
by Thiers Botelho 27 May '04

27 May '04

Hi all devels, I don't consider myself as a developer but, as I have written and successfully tested at least _one_ shell script, I think I might loosely fit on this category. :)) Now seriously: regarding JS's call on this thread, http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00901.html and also JA's posting of a preliminary doc on this one, http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html I wish to offer a contribution to the theme, following a different path from what's being explored till now. Note that some users might consider it more troublesome and more involved, whereas some other users might prefer it due to the additional security it offers. I have been playing for a time with 'System Rescue CD' which is a live CD with recovery tools, published at http://sysresccd.org/ . Using it a few times, and adding a shallow knowledge of shell scripts, I've managed to build a set of scripts which work together and allow me to make partition backups (ext3, vfat and ntfs have been tested) to another HD or smb share (using partimage), plus backups of the MBR and partition table using dd and sfdisk . I've also successfully restored NTFS and VFAT partitions which these scripts. In one case I purposely deleted the Windoze boot partition with fdisk and then restored it with a partimage backup after manually restoring the MBR and partition table. Summing up all of this: if a doc is being cooked up to advise users on the perils of dual booting, I suppose many users would be pleased to find on this doc an additional and optional procedure like the following: - back up MBR with dd (per script) - back up partition table with sfdisk (per script) - back up windows partition(s) using partimage (per script) - install FC2 with all precautions - confirm that FC2 boots - see that Windoze boots and sigh in relief . . . OR - see that Windoze does not boot and proceed - back up FC2 partition(s) using partimage (per script) - restore MBR with dd (manually, maybe . . .) - restore partition table with sfdisk (manually, maybe . . .) - see that Windoze now boots and sigh in relief . . . (at least that's what's hoped at this point . . .) - see that now FC2 does not boot and proceed - if needed, destroy and recreate partitions for FC2 (manually with parted - Partition Magic could also be mentioned as an optional tool) - restore FC2 partition(s) using partimage (per script) - see that FC2 boots and sigh in relief - go do something more interesting I haven't personally gone thru the whole procedure myself, but judging for my experience with parts of it I have no reason to suspect it won't work. Of course I might have missed something, but that would require someone willing to go thru the whole shebang at once. It might take a few hours (mostly for I/O on backup and restore operations), but the setup is straightforward if shell scripts are used. Maybe it will not be 'politically correct' to suggest third-party tools such as 'System Rescue CD' to recover from a Fedora-specific problem. However I'm suggesting this with a vision of broader 'Open Source' and 'community' concepts. Thanx all for your attention. Thiers

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Re: small improvements for fedora 3: sound mixing
by Christian Paratschek 27 May '04

27 May '04

hi! this does not work for me. xmms and rhythmbox play fine, but gaim sound does not and gaim crashes when i try to close it. i am not a programmer but i test whatever you tell me :-) would be great if i could be helpful here... regards, christian > [snip] > > I have further suggestions: make the defult output device dmix, and > default input device dsnoop. Then create a default device with full > duplex, like this: > > # > # DMIX input device > # > pcm.!output { > type dmix > ipc_key 1234 > slave { > pcm "hw:0,0" > period_time 0 > period_size 1024 > rate 44100 > } > } > > > # > # DSNOOP output device > # > pcm.!input { > type dsnoop > ipc_key 1234 > slave { > pcm "hw:0,0" > period_time 0 > period_size 1024 > rate 44100 > } > } > > > # > # ASYM duplex device > # > pcm.!duplex { > type asym > playback.pcm "output" > capture.pcm "input" > } > > > # > # Make the duplex device default > # > pcm.!default { > type plug > slave.pcm "duplex" > } > > > # > # OSS Compability > # > pcm.!dsp0 { > type plug > slave.pcm "duplex" > } > > > ctl.!mixer0 { > type hw > card 0 > } > > This should enable sound mixing - both input and ouput - to /just work/ > for all supported cards. > > /Peter Backlund

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Confusion with new platforms and packages
by Nathan Robertson 27 May '04

27 May '04

Hi, I've been doing a fair amount of work (ie. a fair slice of my free time over the last couple of months) on getting Fedora Core booting on Apple PowerPC. Because the ppc tree already existed (from my understanding, just not tested on Apple hardware), I was given a huge head start. I now have a install of FC/devel on my PowerBook and an old PowerMac G3, and have been reporting bugs against packages (usually with patches) to correct issues I've found. These can be split into two parts: 1. Existing packages, like the kernel needing a .config file that produces a kernel that boots, and does something useful. 2. Adding packages that make the system more useful, and are essentially equivalents for powerpc of packages that FC ships on x86. One example is hfsutils (needed to write a NewWorld boot partition, bugs #117512, #120811). Bugs reported against #1 types are accepted and fixed. Bugs against #2 types, it appears that Red Hat engineering people are unsure as to what they are expected to do. Quoting bug #117512, Bill Nottingham: "Hm, I suppose there should be some sort of policy on packages not required for any officially supported arch." This is not the only example I've come across of this, just the latest one that has led me to post this message. Can somebody senior from Red Hat give us some idea as to what the story is here? FWIW, I believe that we're just "completing" the support for PowerPC, not adding a new platform, because it pre-existed in devel. A community driven release of a platform previously unsupported in any way by Red Hat would certainly be send a really good signal to the doubters out there that Fedora Core isn't just Red Hat, just like Mozilla wasn't just Netscape (and they had their doubters too). Regards, Nathan.

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Call for Discussion: Summary document concerning Prevention and Recovery of XP Dual Boot Problems
by Jef Spaleta 27 May '04

27 May '04

Okay, a generous community member has been so kind as to write a summary document outlining prevention and recovery on systems where the infamous harddrive geometry installer bug causes problems with XP dual booting. Please, read over the attached document and test the preventative and recovery methods outlined. Suggestions on useful textual edits and corrections to make before this is widely broadcast are welcome. This is important enough of an issue to make sure the information in here is non-toxic before we broadcast a version of this widely, the goal being to prevent all unncessary dataloss. Of particular interest: 1)test the preventative measure if you still have access to a machine where this is a problem. Prevention is always better, if it can be done reliably. 2)finding a better workaround stdisk warning messages that are being produced that intefere with simple sfdisk command pipe recovery. -jef"Die CHS Die!"spaleta ------------------->Begin Summary Document Text<---------------------------- Dual Booting Issues With Fedora Core 2 and Windows: Prevention & Recovery NOTICE: Please read this document in its entirety. This guide was inspired by the solution developed by Radu Cornea and Alexandre Oliva in this thread: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-May/msg02114.html . This guide aims to integrate the original solution with the refinements evolved in that thread. This guide offers an explanation of why the refinements are beneficial and some workarounds to problems that may prevent the uninitiated from using the solution. It also provides a means of preventing the problem entirely. Primer: There is a bug in Fedora Core 2 that causes the hard disk geometry as reported in the partition table to be altered during installation. This change may cause Windows boot failure. Although this bug is severe, it is recoverable and no data should be lost. It is important not to panic if and when this happens so you do not cause further problems or cause actual loss of data in the process of recovering from the error. Prevention: This bug can be avoided entirely by using some preventative steps while installing Fedora Core 2. Thanks go out to Cero (cero(a)coolnetworx.net) for discovery and testing of this solution. To avoid the hard disk geometry to be altered you may enter it manually during installation by using the hdN=<drive geometry> parameter (where N is the letter representing the drive with the MBR you will use). To discover the current geometry before installing Fedora Core 2 you should use a utility that can read the drive geometry as reported in the partition table

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