Fedora 11 Feature process
by John Poelstra
Before FESCo starts accepting features for Fedora 11, as we've done for
each of the past releases since starting the feature process, I would
like to collect your constructive criticism and ideas for making the
process better.
* We will collect input from November 4, 2008 through November 11, 2008.
* I will propose that FESCo review the proposed changes to the policy at
their meeting on November 12, 2008
Please add your comments to this page which will be used for the discussion:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F11PolicyReview
Thank you,
John
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15 years, 6 months
breaking rawhide freeze
by Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
You know, I'm somewhat disappointed in the uneven treatment of packagers here.
A couple of days ago, I wanted to break the freeze and push an update to gnomeradio
that would make the application fully usable again (as it is now, it crashes
every time you try to name a radio station), but I was told (by Jesse himself,
and some other nice folks) to wait until after F-10 is released, because it
wasn't "critical enough". And now I'm reading the recent rawhide changelogs
and seeing non-critical changes being committed, mostly by people @redhat.com.
I don't want to draw any far-fetched conclusions, but I wonder what's going on
here. Why was I actively discouraged from pushing my change, which would have
zero side-effects but would have made gnomeradio in vanilla F-10 fully functional?
Regards,
R.
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15 years, 6 months
FESCo Meeting Summary for 2008-10-29
by Brian Pepple
=== Members Present ===
* Brian Pepple (bpepple)
* Jarod Wilson (j-rod)
* Bill Nottingham (notting)
* Jon Stanley (jds2001)
* Dennis Gilmore (dgilmore)
* Josh Boyer (jwb)
* David Woodhouse (dwmw2)
* Karsten Hopp (kick_)
* Kevin Fenzi (nirik)
== Summary ==
=== Features ===
* FESCo pushed the EFI(1) feature to F11, since it wasn't complete by
the devel freeze.
* FESCo approved Java Liveconnect(2) as a feature for F10, even though
it was submitted late. They felt this feature warranted giving an
exception to, since it's a feature that was created by in-house at
Fedora, and there was no open source solution that provided Liveconnect
support. NOTE: In the interest of being fair, FESCo will look at giving
the features that were dropped due to not meeting the feature freeze
deadline the same exception, providing they were completed by the devel
freeze.
1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EFI
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Liveconnect
=== Elections ===
* Briefly discussed the dates (Dec. 7 - Dec 20) for the upcoming FESCo
election.
=== Comps ===
* FESCo brain-stormed for a bit on ways to improve comps. Some of the
ideas were:
* Having a Grand Arbitrator of Comps (notting's name was thrown as
a possible candidate)
* Use pkgdb to manage comps
* Making comps a MUST item in the package review.
* In the interim, notting will update the comps wiki page to better
clarify what should be included in comps, and FESCo will discuss some
more whether to make comps a MUST item in the review process.
IRC log can be found at:
http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2008-10-29.html
Later,
/B
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15 years, 6 months
Plan for tomorrows (20081105) FESCO meeting
by Brian Pepple
Hi,
Please find below the list of topics that are likely to come up in the
next FESCo meeting that is scheduled for tomorrow, Wednesday at 17:00
UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org:
/topic FESCo-Meeting -- Features - all
/topic FESCo meeting -- Free discussion around Fedora
You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to
this mail and I'll add it to the schedule. You can also propose topics
in the meeting while it is in the "Free discussion around Fedora" phase.
Later,
/B
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15 years, 6 months
KDE-SIG weekly report (45/2008)
by Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
to this email or add it to the related meeting page.
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= Weekly KDE Summary =
Week: 45/2008
Time: 2008-11-04 16:00 UTC
Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-11-04
Meeting log: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/58/KDE-SIG-2008-11-04.txt
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= Participants =
- KevinKofler
- RexDieter
- SebastianVahl
- ThanNgo
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= Agenda =
* Systray backport [1]
* Desktop User Guide
* additional packages for live images (~20 megs free) [2]
* #468889- libldap-2.4.so.2: undefined symbol: ldap_int_tls_destroy [3]
= Summary =
Systray backport :
- - - - -
* This is a backport of KDE 4.2's systray which replaces the systray plasmoid
entirely.
* The main reason for including this would be the high visibility of ugly
backgrounds of the KDE4 systray applets.
* As this backport was proposed by JaroslavReznik who wasn't present at
meeting time the decision was postponed.
Desktop User Guide:
- - - - -
* (This topic wasn't discussed)
* additional packages for live images (~20 megs free):
- - - - -
* Since the input-methods group was removed from fedora-live-base.ks there is
plenty of free space.
* These packages were added after the Preview release was composed: digikam,
kdeedu-kstars, konq-plugins, pavucontrol, twinkle.
* One proposal was lancelot which will be included in the next push of the
kickstart.
* There were no other packages proposed, so the remaining free space (about 20
megs minus lancelot) could be used for localized spins.
#468889 - libldap-2.4.so.2: undefined symbol: ldap_int_tls_destroy:
- - - - -
* "kcmshell4 kdm" crashes with an undefined symbol error after hitting cancel.
* As a workaround for this kcm_kdm will be linked against ldap.
* This change will be tagged as f10-final as soon as possible.
Open discussion:
- - - - -
o Plans for KDE 4.1.3:
* KDE 4.1.3 is scheduled to be released on Nov 05 2008. [4]
* As it's too risky to include it in F10-release, it will be released as an
update for F10.
* KDE 4.1.3 will also be released as an update for F9.
o battery applet:
* Because of guidance the battery applet will be removed from the default
setting.
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= Next Meeting =
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-11-11
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= Links =
[1] http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=876362
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageL...
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468889
[4]
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule#November_5th....
15 years, 6 months
Cambridge (F-10) Preview Release announcement
by Jesse Keating
We've been cooking, and now it's time for a final taste test!
The Fedora Project is proud to announce the availability of the Fedora
10 Preview Release. The Fedora 10 Preview Release is our last
pre-release offering before we let everyone taste the goods for real.
https://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
Doesn't it smell yummy? We know you can't resist, and we don't want you
to. We want everyone in the Fedora community to take an early sample and
tell us what you find. The recipe is pretty good, but now is the time to
make it perfect. Ingredients include:
* Faster boot using Plymouth
* Wireless connection sharing
* Better printing
* Enhanced software update and maintenance, from RPM 4.6 to
PackageKit
* Virtualization storage
* SecTool, security audit and intrusion detection system
* Glitch free audio using timer-based scheduling
And, since this is Fedora, we don't have anything to hide. Take a peek
at what is in the not-so-secret sauce by looking at our Release Notes in
the Fedora Project wiki. We use 100% pure free and open source software
here, none of that high-fructose proprietary stuff.
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes
Most of you should get a very tasty treat, but some of you might
experience a little bitterness. Don't fret - all is not lost - there is
still time to improve the recipe before we share it with the world. Head
over to the Fedora Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com) and let us know
what offended your palate.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report
File bugs here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide
If you'd like to interact with the chefs more directly, join the live
staff in the kitchen by coming to #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net, or
leave a message on the corkboard by the back door:
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
Ready to get your free preview sample? Go ahead and swipe one straight
from the oven - we don't mind. Put on your favorite heat resistant
BitTorrent mitt and grab one of the following goodies. Take as many as
you like.
Thanks for tasting!
https://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
P.S. Please remember that as we run a public mirror system, the mirrors
for Fedora 10 Preview will not all be ready at this time, and may become
overloaded as the day goes on. If you receive permission denied
messages, please continue trying until you get through.
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15 years, 6 months
Fedora Release Engineering Meeting Recap 2008-11-03
by John Poelstra
Recap and full IRC transcript found here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-nov-03
Please make corrections and clarifications to the wiki page.
== Preview Release ==
* on track for release on tomorrow (Tuesday)
* schedule CVS outage for Thursday evening in order to mass-branch for F-10
* have some really bad split media splitting going on
** needing more than one disc for a minimal install
** needing 5 disks for a default minus office install, etc.
** f13 to look at where packages are going and why they aren't being
split right
== Fedora 11 Schedule ==
* https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/843 (discussion to date)
** Includes three proposals
* attendees would like to see a different proposed scenario to compare
to a regular "may day" schedule
*# ''May Day'' schedule should GA on 2009-05-05 (not 2009-04-28)
*# second scenario should be F10 GA date + six month schedule
(2009-05-05 + ~30 days)
== IRC Transcript ==
15 years, 6 months
iscsi lvm and /dev and bootup
by Harry Hoffman
Hi,
I'm stuck here...
I've got iscsi running here with two drives on a lefthand networks iscsi
box.
I'm able to successfully login and can see the targets.
I'm using lvm to create physical volumes:
pvcreate external_iscsi /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
I then create a logical volume:
lvcreate -l 1310718 external_iscsi -n srv
and finally create a filesystem:
mkfs.ext3 -m 1 /dev/external_iscsi/srv
All of this works well and I can mount the filesystem just fine.
When I reboot it all goes to hell. I see iscsi logging into the lefthand
box and it reports success.
and if I run vgdisplay I get:
vgdisplay external_iscsi
--- Volume group ---
VG Name external_iscsi
System ID
Format lvm2
Metadata Areas 2
Metadata Sequence No 2
VG Access read/write
VG Status resizable
MAX LV 0
Cur LV 1
Open LV 0
Max PV 0
Cur PV 2
Act PV 2
VG Size 5.00 TB
PE Size 4.00 MB
Total PE 1310718
Alloc PE / Size 1310718 / 5.00 TB
Free PE / Size 0 / 0
VG UUID vLGcVU-cAj0-Z7Ox-EcYF-bx5e-fMWs-9wGh3t
however, there's no /dev/ entry for /dev/external_iscsi
Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
Cheers,
Harry
15 years, 6 months