On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:15:57 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis fedora@leemhuis.info wrote:
I'd like to ask FESCo to please not realize the PackageACLOpening proposal without the NewMaintainerContainment. In fact if FESCo should I'll continue to lock down my packages just because I fear the risk that a just-sponsored-contributers puts something bad (e.g. malicious code) into one of my packages in CVS (even if then there are much better targets to get bad code out to users easily) and uses the CTRL+C trick to prevent a commit message.
I see them as somewhat related as well. However if you notice from the proposal that maintainers will be given the opportunity to easily opt-out of opening their packages, so that we /could/ if we so choose do the opening now before new maintainer containment is in full swing, since that will likely prove to take longer to set up.
While on the CTRL+C issue to prevent commit messages: will FESCo continue to ignore it?
From what I gather in the past, there is no way to fix this outside of moving to a different SCM. I could be wrong, but quite frankly on the list of things I'd like to accomplish, fixing this is pretty low on the list. I don't think /anybody/ in FESCo would turn down a fix for this, should some enterprising soul provide one.
Further: I'd like to ask FESCo to add a rule to that all proposals have to be posted to this list as full text with a special tag in the subject (something like [Proposal for FESCo voting]) -- currently its IMHO way to easy to miss a proposal that come up for FESCo voting. And often only links gets posted to the wiki pages -- the result afaics is that only a few people click on the link, even less read, and even less comment on it; if they comment then in the wiki, where others miss it.
That's not a terrible idea. Would you be willing to work up a "how to propose something to FESCo" page on the wiki? I looked for one once I created an easy to use wiki template that can optionally be used for creating proposals, but I couldn't find it. Would you like to make one?
IOW: no real discussion comes up and contributers don't get involved into the decision finding process. That's not what FESCo wants -- or is it?
Nope, that's not what we want at all.