On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:29 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
You are nit-picking at words.
As was everybody who ever complained about the "minimal" install option we had.
Though a Fedora installation with yum + rpm isn't "truely minimal", it's the minimal install to keep an installation usable/maintainable.
Which is useful to some, too fat for others.
Well, to me a "no-yum" installation is an ignorable extremal singular case.
And yes, the fact yum pulls in python is a real problem on small systems. Even worse are the system-config-* tools, most of which pull in many more packages and don't even work without X.
Congratulations you've just walked into a decade + argument.
I don't see this.
Probably because you haven't been on the front line, taking the bug reports, talking to users at events,
Right.
trying to tweak the targets to match expectation and continually failing because there is no singular expectation.
Right, there is no singular expectation. But what Fedora currently offers is not even an approximation of a minimal install.
What I am looking for as "minimal install", is a default configuration, which is just sufficient to boot up into a root shell and launch yum, such one can start to taylor an install set to personal demands.
Ralf