Unix tools should keep quiet unless an error occurs. If yum fails for some reason, you should know, either through an e-mail or by some other means.
If you need to watch yum to make sure it works, you should consider filing a bug to make it more noisy on errors.
i agree but i actually meant this also as expand arrow.. actually the same one as the one that i describe later on in the first post. and i think you misunderstand me on all other points.
Security updates are released every 1440 minutes (daily),
Checking for updates every five minutes is overkill.
that`s not what i mean.. when you run gnome and you see the update notifications but you don`t use that to update.. instead you use a terminal session to run all the updates. i think pup should be in same way be notified of that or just check to see if there ware new updates (yum list updates) or whatever.. there must be a way ^_^
look at this: http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/tesar/ubuntu_510_software_update_staho... pup (while it`s updating) could look like that.. you will keep the user friendly stuff and you add stuff that the more technical people want. everyone happy
mark
2007/4/5, nodata lsof@nodata.co.uk:
Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 22:54 +0200 schrieb Mark:
Hey,
i seem to be on a topic spree today.. anyway.. i rarely use pup because i want to see the download speeds for the packages and want to abort them if needed + i want to see any possible errors that occur.
Unix tools should keep quiet unless an error occurs. If yum fails for some reason, you should know, either through an e-mail or by some other means.
If you need to watch yum to make sure it works, you should consider filing a bug to make it more noisy on errors.
now i just did a update and i noticed that pup isn`t refreshing itself to see if there are newer updates or if another program took care of the updates..
pup won't notice a yum update. This needs to be bugzillaed.
i know that you can manually refresh pup but wouldn`t it be better to auto refresh pup once every 5 minutes?
Security updates are released every 1440 minutes (daily), Checking for updates every five minutes is overkill.
and a pup suggestion.. could it be possible to show the yum output in pup (with a expand arrow)?
pup is aimed at making security updates simple for non-technical people. A lot of technical people seem to want to make pup into a graphical yum, which means we will later need yet another program that aims to be aimed at non-technical people.
this is (probably) my last topic today. more bug hunting tomorrow.
Mark
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