4:18 p.m.
Mate package maintainers, testers and any developers on the dev list:
Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank
you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!
Not to start a war, but I sincerely hope Mate makes it into RHEL 7 vs
Gnome. I have WAY too many machines riding on it.
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5:10 p.m.
Andy Lawrence writes:
Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank
you Thank
you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!
Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own snarky
comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread.
I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display
wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop. Somehow
(and this would be the snarky part) I knew even before I started looking,
that there seems to be no bloody way to turn it off, in case you don't feel
fond of having to go through an extra step of unlocking a locked desktop.
5:13 p.m.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam(a)courier-mta.com> wrote:
Andy Lawrence writes:
> Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you
> Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!
Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own snarky
comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread.
I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display
wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop. Somehow
(and this would be the snarky part) I knew even before I started looking,
that there seems to be no bloody way to turn it off, in case you don't feel
fond of having to go through an extra step of unlocking a locked desktop.
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You're welcome.
It's not happening.
Enjoy.
Dan
6:12 p.m.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:13:16PM -0600, Dan Mashal wrote:
You're welcome.
It's not happening.
So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me.
What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to
do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just
gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off?
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7:18 p.m.
Hey,guys...
Will there have a MATE spin later?
Thanks...
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7:20 p.m.
Matthew Miller writes:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 05:13:16PM -0600, Dan Mashal wrote:
> You're welcome.
> It's not happening.
So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me.
What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to
do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just
gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off?
Because Gnome's usability experts know better than you, on the subject of UI
design.
8:43 p.m.
On 01/18/2013 06:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out
what to
do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just
gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off?
It's part of the nefarious master plan to turn all of our computers into
giant cell phones/tablets.
Don't believe that there are a lot of people who think this way? Check
this out ...
http://www.businessinsider.com/panasonic-unveils-20-inch-4k-tablet-at-ces...
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4:08 p.m.
On 01/18/2013 04:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still
perplexes me.
What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to
do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just
gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off?
It's for notifications and other things for which one should not need to
unlock the system to handle -- for example, to notify of urgent
system-level problems (such as low battery), or to pause or switch songs
in your music player, or quickly check an instant message.
While you can't disable it (as far as I know), you can still get past it
by using your keyboard (press Esc or Enter) if you don't want to use the
upward swipe.
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4:27 p.m.
Am 19.01.2013 23:08, schrieb Peter Gordon:
On 01/18/2013 04:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> So, I do not at all share the snarky sentiment, but this still perplexes me.
>
> What is that screen for? It literally took me a minute to figure out what to
> do with it the first time I saw it, and then every time after that it just
> gets in the way of what I want to do. Why *can't* I turn it off?
It's for notifications and other things for which one should not need to
unlock the system to handle -- for example, to notify of urgent
system-level problems (such as low battery), or to pause or switch songs
in your music player, or quickly check an instant message.
oh yeah quickly check a personal instant message without unlock
whoever have desigend this is naive and has no idea about privacy
12:23 p.m.
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 02:25:51PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> oh yeah quickly check a personal instant message without unlock
> whoever have desigend this is naive and has no idea about privacy
To be fair, this is exactly the reason why it is disabled by default and
has to be enabled by the user.
So, how about have the screen not do that if there are no such options
enabled?
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5:45 p.m.
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On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 06:10:06PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the
display wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the
desktop. Somehow (and this would be the snarky part) I knew even
before I started looking, that there seems to be no bloody way to
turn it off, in case you don't feel fond of having to go through an
extra step of unlocking a locked desktop.
If you've got a keyboard, pressing enter at that clock cover screen
will get it away so you don't need to "swipe" it. I know you probably
know this already, but just in case you don't, it's definitely quicker
than swiping with the mouse for me.
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4:01 a.m.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 06:10:06PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Andy Lawrence writes:
>Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank
>you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!
Agreed. This also seems to be a convenient place to add my own
snarky comment, that doesn't really merit its own thread.
I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the
display wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the
desktop. Somehow (and this would be the snarky part) I knew even
before I started looking, that there seems to be no bloody way to
turn it off, in case you don't feel fond of having to go through an
extra step of unlocking a locked desktop.
Swiping is a very hard action on a Lenovo trackpad. It needs two
hands and very precise coordination. Doesn't give a good message to
our less abled / less coordinated users.
Rich.
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4:11 a.m.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after
the display
wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop.
I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
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5:46 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display
> wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop.
I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
Or "Esc".
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7:37 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:46:35PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty
clock, after the display
> > wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop.
> I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
Or "Esc".
It's good that these things work. But why do I need them at all? I already
took some action to wake the system.
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8:20 a.m.
Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a):
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
>> I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the display
>> wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the desktop.
> I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
Or "Esc".
Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :)
BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login you
can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is playing
ATM, etc.
Vít
11:46 p.m.
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a):
>On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>
>>>I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the
display
>>>wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the
desktop.
>>I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
> Or "Esc".
>
Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :)
Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or,
rather, just to show the password field).
BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login
you can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is
playing ATM, etc.
And why should I need that?
D.
1:33 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:46 PM, David Tardon <dtardon(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a):
> >On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >>
> >>>I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the
display
> >>>wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the
desktop.
> >>I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
> > Or "Esc".
> >
>
> Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :)
Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or,
rather, just to show the password field).
>
> BTW you can show notifications on the screen, so even without login
> you can be informed that you have new message, or what your payer is
> playing ATM, etc.
And why should I need that?
D.
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So I checked my email today after a long hard day at FUDCon, and I see
a thread with the subject "To the Mate package maintainers" and upon
reading it I find that this thread has nothing to do with MATE Desktop
any more.
I am a sad panda. :(
Dan
1:31 p.m.
Le Dim 20 janvier 2013 06:46, David Tardon a écrit :
Hi,
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 19.1.2013 12:46, Tomasz Torcz napsal(a):
> >On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:11:29AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:10:06 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >>
> >>>I see that Gnome's lock screen now shows a pretty clock, after the
> display
> >>>wakes up, that must be "swiped" away in order to unlock the
desktop.
> >>I just hit "Enter" or "Return" to achieve the same.
> > Or "Esc".
> >
>
> Or scroll by mouse wheel ... I love it :)
Great. That makes third obsucre mechanism just to unlock screen (or,
rather, just to show the password field).
But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It should be
a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system
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3:31 a.m.
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 20:31 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It
should be
a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system
That was fixed a couple of months ago. Please replace with up-to-date
complaints.
commit 15baf34186c6b5886b26e5a37698893be36f510b
Author: Bastien Nocera <hadess(a)hadess.net>
Date: Tue Nov 6 19:13:12 2012 +0100
keyboard: Prevent potential infinite loop
XKB would notify us in the same way if the lockedMods
changed because of a programmatic, or a physical/human change.
This causes us changing the Num-Lock state generating another
event on top of the one we just processed, and might cause
infinite loops and 100% CPU usage.
Instead, we now only apply the settings:
- on startup
- when remember-num-lock is changed to true
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679151
6:11 a.m.
Le Mer 23 janvier 2013 10:31, Bastien Nocera a écrit :
On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 20:31 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> But do not try to wake it up by pressing num lock twice fast. It
> should be
> a noop but you can hit a gnome race and hose the system
That was fixed a couple of months ago. Please replace with up-to-date
complaints.
Thanks for the reference, it had been broken so many months I trained
myself to avoid the sequence.
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