Announcing Fedora 8 Test 3 (7.92)!

[Jeremy Katz]

Fedora 8 Test 3 is here! This is the last test release before the
development freeze and a great time to test all those packages that you
know and love. Test 3 is for beta users. This is the time when we must
have full community participation. Without this participation both
hardware and software functionality suffers.

Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in
free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use,
modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work
together as a community: the Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is open
and anyone is welcome to join.

Up-to-date release notes for Fedora 8 Test 3 can be found at
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes.

== Changes from Fedora 8 Test 2 ==

 * Online Desktop provides a desktop experience designed around online
services. A preview of Online Desktop is provided via BigBoard, which is
a optional sidebar in GNOME.

 * KDE 3.5.7 is available in the KDE Live image as well as the regular
DVD. The KDE 4 (Beta) Development Environment is available in the
repository.

 * Live installations are faster and require a smaller root filesystem.
The file system layout has also changed somewhat.  System files for the
Live images are now under `LiveOS/`, and a new `README` file has been
provided as a short introduction to the live image.

 * Package management now features much better performance via `yum` and
friends.

 * The completely free and open source Java environment called Iced Tea
is installed by default.  Iced Tea is derived from OpenJDK, includes a
browser plugin based on GCJ, and is available for both x86 and x86_64
architectures. GCJ is still the default on PPC architecture. 

 * CodecBuddy is now included, and promotes free, superior quality, open
formats to end users trying to play multimedia content under patent
encumbered or proprietary formats.

 * Bluetooth devices and tools now have better graphical and system
integration.

 * Laptop users benefit from the "quirks" features in HAL, including
better suspend/resume and multimedia keyboard support.

 * There is now improved power management thanks to both a tickless
kernel in `x86` and `x86_64` architectures, and a reduction in
unnecessary processor wakeups via `powertop`.

 * Eclipse 3.3 (Europa), a new release of the great IDE and development
platform, is available as part of this release. 

 * The `pam_console` module has been removed in favor of access control
via HAL, which modernizes the desktop.

 * NetworkManager 0.7 provides improved wireless network management
support. It includes support for multiple devices and provides the
capability of system-wide configuration, among many other enhancements.
This transition may induce some regressions temporarily, and more
testing and feedback is appreciated. 

 * Secure remote management capability is now provided for Xen, KVM, and
QEMU virtualization.

 * Transifex provides a web-based translation interface to allow users
to contribute translation work for Fedora hosted projects as well as
being able to provide translations to upstream directly to any upstream
project.

 * Integration of unique build IDs into Fedora's software building
infrastructure now provide enhanced debugging capabilities and core
dumps.

 * Fedora now offers easier rebranding of Fedora derivatives via a
`generic-logos` software package. Changes in Fedora's mirror structure
also make creation of derivatives easier. 
 
 * Fedora now includes support for Nepali Language, extending its reach
to many more users. 

=== What's New in Fedora 8 ===

 * A major list of features is available at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/FeatureList.

=== Release Schedule for Fedora 8 ===

 * The Fedora 8 release schedule can be found at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/Schedule. Fedora 8 is scheduled
for general release on 8 November 2007.

=== How to Get Fedora 8 Test 3 ===

 * Fedora 8 Test 3 can be installed via Live image, regular DVD, or via
network installation.  You can find the DVD images as well as the
primary live images at:

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7.92/

 * You can also download the DVD and Live images via bittorrent at:

http://torrent.fedoraproject.org

 * More information on the various spins available with the release of
Fedora 8 Test 3 is available at:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8Test3/Spins

People who are already running the rawhide (development) branch of
Fedora or any of the previous test releases can simply run `yum update`.
(Some current Rawhide packages might be newer than Fedora 8 Test 3
packages.)  We also appreciate new installation testing for feedback on
changes to the Anaconda installer. 

== Known Issues ==

 * [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302381 Bug 302381] If
you are installing via DVD or also possibly NFS-mounted ISO images, the
Add/Remove Programs application (`pirut`) may crash when run, with a
traceback about HAL. Running `yum update` or using `yum` to update at
least `pirut` should resolve the issue. 

 * [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=298991 Bug 298991] The
KDE NetworkManager frontend `knetworkmanager`, a graphical interface for
switching between networks easily, is currently broken. This is intended
be fixed before Fedora 8 release. The KDE Live images have `nm-applet`,
which works with KDE, enabled by default as a workaround.

 * Other Common issues can be found at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F8Common.

=== Bug Reporting and tracking ===

You can follow the procedure outlined in
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsandFeatureRequests to report any bugs
found in your testing. 

The Release Engineering and QA teams keep track of bugs that are
considered release blockers. To see that list, visit:

 *
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F8Blocker 

To see a list of additional non-blocker bugs that should hopefully be
fixed for Fedora 8, visit:

 *
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F8Target 

Please check these lists before reporting new bugs!


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[Dmitry Butskoy]

Jeremy Katz wrote:
>   * The `pam_console` module has been removed in favor of access
> control
>  via HAL, which modernizes the desktop.
>     
Oops...

I use pam_console for the "login once" feature, i.e. after the first 
login from one of the console ttys or gdm the next logins (gdm or 
console) are without password.

What I have to do now? :(

Provide some patch for hal for the same feature? (As well as I had 
created the applied patch for pam_console auth some years ago)...


Dmitry Butskoy
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DmitryButskoy

[Tomas Mraz]

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:48 +0400, Dmitry Butskoy wrote:
>  Jeremy Katz wrote:
>  >  * The `pam_console` module has been removed in favor of access control
>  > via HAL, which modernizes the desktop.
>  >   
>  
>  Oops...
>  
>  I use pam_console for the "login once" feature, i.e. after the first 
>  login from one of the console ttys or gdm the next logins (gdm or 
>  console) are without password.
>  
>  What I have to do now? :( 
pam_console as a module will still be there for some time
I think. Only
the management of device permissions and ownership for most devices was
taken out from its configuration.

-- 
Tomas Mraz
No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.
                                              Turkish proverb

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:28:38 -0400
schrieb Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>   * Fedora 8 Test 3 can be installed via Live image, regular DVD, or
>  via network installation.  You can find the DVD images as well as the
>  primary live images at:
>  
>  http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7.92/ 
Can someone explain to me why the KDE-LiveCD is only available via
torrent? Bandwith? Did I missed a thread where that was discussed?


Sebastian

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:33:43 -0400
schrieb Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 21:23 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  > Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:28:38 -0400 schrieb Jeremy Katz
>  > <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  > >  * Fedora 8 Test 3 can be installed via Live image, regular DVD,
>  > > or via network installation.  You can find the DVD images as well
>  > > as the primary live images at:
>  > > 
>  > > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7.92/
>  > 
>  > Can someone explain to me why the KDE-LiveCD is only available via
>  > torrent? Bandwith? Did I missed a thread where that was discussed?
>  
>  Timing.  To get things on the mirrors, they needed to be available for
>  syncing on Monday.  The KDE live images were done at the end of the
>  day on Tuesday due to scrambling around the knetworkmanager stuff.
>  
>  They'll be back to normally available for the final release.  Although
>  the current thinking is for the developer and FEL spins to be
>  torrent-only 
Ok. Thanks for the explanation.

Sebastian

[Jeremy Katz]

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 21:23 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:28:38 -0400 schrieb Jeremy Katz
> <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  >  * Fedora 8 Test 3 can be installed via Live image, regular DVD, or
>  > via network installation.  You can find the DVD images as well as the
>  > primary live images at:
>  > 
>  > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7.92/
>  
>  Can someone explain to me why the KDE-LiveCD is only available via
>  torrent? Bandwith? Did I missed a thread where that was discussed? 
Timing.  To get things on the mirrors, they needed to be available for
syncing on Monday.  The KDE live images were done at the end of the day
on Tuesday due to scrambling around the knetworkmanager stuff.

They'll be back to normally available for the final release.  Although
the current thinking is for the developer and FEL spins to be
torrent-only

Jeremy

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:28:38 -0400
schrieb Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>   * You can also download the DVD and Live images via bittorrent at:
>  
>  http://torrent.fedoraproject.org
>   
Are there problems with the different torrents? Here the
KDE-, FEL-, and Developer-Images have no traffic:
http://torrent.linux.duke.edu:6969/

Sebastian