Re: PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Michal Nowak]

----- "Richard Hughes" <hughsient(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  ...
>  http://www.packagekit.org/packages/ 
I'd appreciate to have there x86-64 packages too (in case is 
expected to always contain fresh alpha PackageKit).

But few points anyway w.r.t. PackageKit-0.4.6-0.1.20090319git.fc11.x86_64

gpk-u-v2:

* in "List of changes:", it'd be nice to have only the changes done
in between the installed and the updating packages *and* $random_value
at most, not just the last $random_value item

* the "List of changes:" might be bolt and some bigger font also

* Wed Mar 18 13:00:00 2009 Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo(a)redhat.com&gt; -
2.6.99.behdad.20090318-1
* Fri Oct 17 14:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com&gt; 8.63-4
`------------^^^^^^^^---[not in spec file]

* "size" column is ambiguous, on first sight I expected it's pkg's 
size but when the pkg is download via yum and the gpk-u-v2 started
again, it shows "0 bytes", so, I realized that it's "size to be 
downloaded". I'd prefer to always have "pkg size" there

* column "Software" sort according to pkg name, not description.
I prefer to have (sub-)packages together. A lot of description
field starts with "The" or "A"...

* it'd be nice to be able to select/unselect packages via keyboard
by e.g. having keyboard cursor ("rectangle") on the first column
with checkbox

* there's a lot of room for playing with anchoring "texts" like
"bug #466507" with proper bug tracker. :)

* I guess, that table labels (like "Install", "Size", ...) can be 
three-state -- ascending, descending, 'back to normal' (no arrow)
but not sure whether it was GTK+, or some other toolkit

* 'u' in "Install updates" should be capitalized, like is common
in gpk-u-i

* info "There are no updates for your computer." might be changed to 
"All updates successfully installed."otherwise it looks like: "Gah, 
what did I wrong that there are no updates for me?" Also bold text
and auto-disappearing window are not very common and generally should
be omitted

Thanks,
Michal

PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Matthias Clasen]

On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 12:34 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
>  
>  * it'd be nice to be able to select/unselect packages via keyboard
>  by e.g. having keyboard cursor ("rectangle") on the first column
>  with checkbox 
That is possible. Just move the focus in the list and use space to
toggle the checkboxes.

>  * I guess, that table labels (like "Install",
> "Size", ...) can be 
>  three-state -- ascending, descending, 'back to normal' (no arrow)
>  but not sure whether it was GTK+, or some other toolkit 
GTK+ doesn't let you go back to 'unsorted', really. Instead you can pick
another column to sort after.

PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Zack Cerza]

On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 13:10 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>  On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 12:34 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
>  > 
>  > * it'd be nice to be able to select/unselect packages via keyboard
>  > by e.g. having keyboard cursor ("rectangle") on the first column
>  > with checkbox
>  
>  That is possible. Just move the focus in the list and use space to
>  toggle the checkboxes. 
Have you tried this, though? It doesn't work for me, and after trying it
none of the checkboxes work at all.

Zack

PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Matthias Clasen]

On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:52 -0400, Zack Cerza wrote:
>  On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 13:10 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>  > On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 12:34 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > * it'd be nice to be able to select/unselect packages via keyboard
>  > > by e.g. having keyboard cursor ("rectangle") on the first column
>  > > with checkbox
>  > 
>  > That is possible. Just move the focus in the list and use space to
>  > toggle the checkboxes.
>  
>  Have you tried this, though? It doesn't work for me, and after trying it
>  none of the checkboxes work at all. 
It certainly worked for the one checkbox I tried it on.

PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Matthias Clasen]

On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:52 -0400, Zack Cerza wrote:
>  On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 13:10 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>  > On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 12:34 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > * it'd be nice to be able to select/unselect packages via keyboard
>  > > by e.g. having keyboard cursor ("rectangle") on the first column
>  > > with checkbox
>  > 
>  > That is possible. Just move the focus in the list and use space to
>  > toggle the checkboxes.
>  
>  Have you tried this, though? It doesn't work for me, and after trying it
>  none of the checkboxes work at all. 
Yes, it definitively works here. 

What is slightly suboptimal is that the update-viewer seems to grab the
focus to the "Install" button after any check/uncheck, so you constantly
have to navigate back to the list...

PackageKit and gnome-packagekit test packages

[Richard Hughes]

On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 12:34 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
>  I'd appreciate to have there x86-64 packages too (in case is 
>  expected to always contain fresh alpha PackageKit). 
Yes, those packages are a quick rpmbuild bodge that runs every few days
-- I'll stick a new snapshot in koji soon, and then everyone can have
the love.

>  * in "List of changes:", it'd be nice to have only the
> changes done
>  in between the installed and the updating packages *and* $random_value
>  at most, not just the last $random_value item 
Agreed, I've just fixed this in the yumBackend.

>  * the "List of changes:" might be bolt and some bigger font
> also
>  
>  * Wed Mar 18 13:00:00 2009 Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo(a)redhat.com&gt; -
> 2.6.99.behdad.20090318-1
>  * Fri Oct 17 14:00:00 2008 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com&gt; 8.63-4
>  `------------^^^^^^^^---[not in spec file] 
Fixed, thanks.

>  * "size" column is ambiguous, on first sight I expected
> it's pkg's 
>  size but when the pkg is download via yum and the gpk-u-v2 started
>  again, it shows "0 bytes", so, I realized that it's "size to be 
>  downloaded". I'd prefer to always have "pkg size" there 
That makes the column very wide...

>  * there's a lot of room for playing with anchoring
> "texts" like
>  "bug #466507" with proper bug tracker. :) 
No. In the bodhi metadata we have proper URLs which we display in the
text. We can't guess that #12345 is a gnome bug, a Red Hat bug, or even
a freedesktop bug. The ChangeLog text is just a bodge as we don't have
metadata with rawhide.

>  * 'u' in "Install updates" should be capitalized,
> like is common
>  in gpk-u-i 
Fixed, thanks.

>  * info "There are no updates for your computer." might be
> changed to 
>  "All updates successfully installed."otherwise it looks like: "Gah, 
>  what did I wrong that there are no updates for me?" Also bold text
>  and auto-disappearing window are not very common and generally should
>  be omitted 
I'll fix up the end dialog, but I think the autoclose should remain.

Richard.