File Size Cleanup requests

[Warren Togami]

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* Tue Apr 13 2004 Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com&gt; 1:0.2.34-2
- remove INSTALL and 536k of useless .ps and html

Please let us know if you find any packages that contain large and very 
not useful stuff like this.  Very often we have no interest in the 
"INSTALL" file since we already installed it via rpm, and in many cases 
INSTALL is only the generic installation instructions.  We can always 
remove that safely.  This is totally worth it if we can save a few MB of 
space and reduce RPM file sizes.

Also any cases where development specific documentation (like API 
specifications) are within the main package as %doc, we should move it 
to the -devel package.  This should save some space in desktop 
installations.

Warren

[Daniel Roesen]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 12:55:25PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote:
>  Please let us know if you find any packages that contain large and
> very 
>  not useful stuff like this. 
e.g. like the tons of drafts and RFCs included in the BIND package?

[dr@nomad bind-9.2.3]$ rpm -q bind
bind-9.2.3-13
[dr@nomad bind-9.2.3]$ pwd
/usr/share/doc/bind-9.2.3
[dr@nomad bind-9.2.3]$ du -sh draft rfc
2.6M    draft
996K    rfc

I also wonder wether it's really necessary to include the DocBook XML
source of the ARM, taking up another 300k.

>  Also any cases where development specific documentation (like API 
>  specifications) are within the main package as %doc, we should move it 
>  to the -devel package.  This should save some space in desktop 
>  installations. 
Moving the BIND ARM into a seperate bind-doc subpackage might make
some sense.

700K    /usr/share/doc/bind-9.2.3/arm

Alternatively, at least getting rid of the DocBook XML source file
Bv9ARM-book.xml, saving about 300k.


Best regards,
Daniel

[Pedro Morais]

Em Quinta, 15 de Abril de 2004 23:55, Warren Togami escreveu:
>  Also any cases where development specific documentation (like API
>  specifications) are within the main package as %doc, we should move it
>  to the -devel package.  This should save some space in desktop
>  installations. 
Closed WONTFIX a long time ago:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60349

du /usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58/
11400   /usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58
Sizes are from Fedora Core 1; that by far the biggest doc dir on my minimal 
server + MySQL install, next is Bash, with 4184 kb.
I think a -docs packages would be appropriate.

About the INSTALL files, 
grep "These are generic installation instructions." $(find /usr/share/doc 
-name "INSTALL")
would go probably find most duplicates.

Also, python's idle could be probably split into a separate RPM, that's 500Kb 
that I think almost nobody uses.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60346
(closed WONTFIX)

>  Warren

[Warren Togami]

Pedro Morais wrote:
>  Em Quinta, 15 de Abril de 2004 23:55, Warren Togami escreveu:
>  
> >Also any cases where development specific documentation (like API
> >specifications) are within the main package as %doc, we should move it
> >to the -devel package.  This should save some space in desktop
> >installations.
>  
>  
>  Closed WONTFIX a long time ago:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60349
>  
>  du /usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58/
>  11400   /usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58
>  Sizes are from Fedora Core 1; that by far the biggest doc dir on my minimal 
>  server + MySQL install, next is Bash, with 4184 kb.
>  I think a -docs packages would be appropriate.
>   
-docs is disliked by many maintainers for various reasons.
Hmm, the mysql package looks to be very odd.

[root@ibmlaptop mysql-3.23.58]# pwd
/usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58
[root@ibmlaptop mysql-3.23.58]# ls -l
total 11432
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   19106 Sep 11  2003 COPYING
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   28003 Sep 11  2003 COPYING.LIB
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2642478 Sep 11  2003 INSTALL-SOURCE

Much of this file describes installing from source, or upstream Mysql 
capitalized RPMS which not very compatible with our distribution, MacOS 
X, Windows, and MySQL 4.1, 4.0 and 3.23.  I suppose lots of the useless 
parts about installing from source or upstream binaries and those other 
operating systems could be cut out, but there are other parts that look 
useful.  The trouble is it would need to be cut within rpmbuild, with 
manually set line numbers based upon human inspection.  I personally 
wouldn't mind doing this however because this does not change often, and 
the space savings are rather large.  I am not the package maintainer though.

(These docs exist for the convenience of users who either have no 
Internet access, or they are cut off from the Internet.  We can't simply 
get rid of them and expect them to go online to read the docs.  And also 
keep in mind that you can globally disable /usr/share/doc installation 
with --excludedocs if you really don't need them.)

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3169573 Sep 11  2003 manual.html
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2876828 Sep 11  2003 manual.texi
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  120425 Sep 11  2003 manual_toc.html
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2759102 Sep 11  2003 manual.txt

Do we really have to distribute three copies of the same thing here?

-rw-r--r--  1 root root   14949 Sep 11  2003 mysqld_error.txt
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1976 Sep 11  2003 README

These are fine.

It is probably too late to modify this package due to the freeze, but I 
will try to convince certain people.

[Ralph Loader]

4Suite appears to be about 50% test code; the test code could be removed
or moved into a -devel package.  Also, do we need to ship all 3
of .py, .pyo and .pyc files?

Last time I looked, Omni was badly bloated because there is lots of base
class code compiled into each of 450 or so shared libraries.  Could
probably cut 55 Mb down to a few Mb, by putting all the base classes
into separate .so files.

Ralph.

On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 12:55 -1000, Warren Togami wrote:

>  esound-0.2.34-2
>  ---------------
>  * Tue Apr 13 2004 Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com&gt; 1:0.2.34-2
>  - remove INSTALL and 536k of useless .ps and html
>  
>  Please let us know if you find any packages that contain large and very 
>  not useful stuff like this.  Very often we have no interest in the 
>  "INSTALL" file since we already installed it via rpm, and in many cases 
>  INSTALL is only the generic installation instructions.  We can always 
>  remove that safely.  This is totally worth it if we can save a few MB of 
>  space and reduce RPM file sizes.
>  
>  Also any cases where development specific documentation (like API 
>  specifications) are within the main package as %doc, we should move it 
>  to the -devel package.  This should save some space in desktop 
>  installations.
>  
>  Warren
>  
>  
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