This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page.
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= Weekly KDE Summary =
Week: 51/2007
Time: 2007-12-18 16:00 UTC
Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-18
Meeting log: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-18?action=AttachFile...
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= Participants =
- KevinKofler - LukasTinkl - SebastianVahl - ThanNgo
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= Agenda =
* Trolltech's Phonon GStreamer backend * kdemultimedia3 compat package? * API documentation * Live images for KDE4 * development progress: the road to kde4
= Summary =
o Trolltech's Phonon GStreamer backend: - Trolltech has committed a GStreamer backend for phonon which will likely become the upstream default for kde 4.1 - We'll have to wait until it gets usuable and use xine-lib for now
o kdemultimedia3 compat package? - at least taxipilot is relying on aRts-related libraries provided by kdemultimedia 3 which has now broken dependencies - Also it's possible that some apps will fail at runtime due to trying to load some aRts modules which were in kdemultimedia3 and not finding them - If we create a kdemultimedia3 we should make sure phonon, arts and pulseaudio work together - taxipilot itself isn't ported to kde 4 yet - there was no consensus if we drop taxipilot because of it's unmaintained kde4 state, patch it to don't use arts or create a kdemultimedia3 package - If we create a kdemultimedia3 package we have to get it reviewed because it's not existing in cvs
o API documentation: - API documentation for kde 4 is currently not packaged but should be included in the future as -apidocs subpackages - A suggestion by RexDieter was to package them seperately to get them noarch - But this would mean to duplicate many spec files - the current decision was to package them as a part of the current specs
o Live images for KDE4: - SebastianVahl created a tracker bug for monitoring the current MUST/SHOULD solve issues for the live images: #421891 [1] - #422061 is working with selinux in permissive mode since yesterdays rawhide push [2] - in comparison to the kde3 live images the following applications were dropped: krusader, koffice-krita, twinkle and ktorrent - the current package list: CurrentPackageList [3] - One of the biggest remaining issues is the non-working installer (#424811). [4] JeremyKatz said he has a hack to workaround this
o development progress: the road to kde4: - kdeadmin, kaider and extragear-plasma are in rawhide now, kde-l10n is still being reviewed (#421231). [5] - the kde4 port of bluecurve is also awaiting review (#425872) [6] - /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common was splitted into a kdelibs-common subpackage (# 417251) [7]
o recent bugs: - flash plugin seems to be still not working on x86_64 (#410651) [8] - but this seems to be an issue of nspluginwrapper and a separate bug report against nspluginwrapper is needed
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= Next Meeting =
Next tuesday is christmas holidays and the following tuesday is New Year. We should find at least one date in this two weeks for a meeting. A proposal would be 2007-12-03 at 1600 UTC: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel
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= Links =
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=421891 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=422061 [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=424811 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=421231 [6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=425872 [7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=4217251 [8] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=410651
I love copy&paste: the correct week would be 51/2007
Sebastian
Am Di 18.Dezember 2007 schrieb Sebastian Vahl:
= Next Meeting =
Next tuesday is christmas holidays and the following tuesday is New Year. We should find at least one date in this two weeks for a meeting. A proposal would be 2007-12-03 at 1600 UTC: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel
Of course this should be 2008-01-03 :)
Sebastian
Am Mi 19.Dezember 2007 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Sebastian Vahl <ml <at> deadbabylon.de> writes:
Of course this should be 2008-01-03 :)
Actually I suggested 2008-01-02 (Wednesday), but 2008-01-03 (Thursday) would also be possible.
I probably won't be available at Wednesday, so I've picked Thursday as the suggestion.
Sebastian
"SV" == Sebastian Vahl writes:
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SV> o kdemultimedia3 compat package? - at least taxipilot is relying SV> on aRts-related libraries provided by kdemultimedia 3 which has SV> now broken dependencies - Also it's possible that some apps will SV> fail at runtime due to trying to load some aRts modules which were SV> in kdemultimedia3 and not finding them - If we create a SV> kdemultimedia3 we should make sure phonon, arts and pulseaudio SV> work together - taxipilot itself isn't ported to kde 4 yet - there SV> was no consensus if we drop taxipilot because of it's unmaintained SV> kde4 state, patch it to don't use arts or create a kdemultimedia3 SV> package - If we create a kdemultimedia3 package we have to get it SV> reviewed because it's not existing in cvs
As another datapoint: tellico uses the CDDB support from kdemultimedia3, although if it is not present, tellico simply doesn't use it at compile-time. We currently dropped the BuildRequires for kdemultimedia for the tellico package in rawhide, which works, but isn't ideal.
Alex
Alex Lancaster wrote:
As another datapoint: tellico uses the CDDB support from kdemultimedia3, although if it is not present, tellico simply doesn't use it at compile-time. We currently dropped the BuildRequires for kdemultimedia for the tellico package in rawhide, which works, but isn't ideal.
I think we can all agree the a kdemultimedia3 (compat) pkg would be nice (primarily for arts plugins). Any volunteers to help create/maintain it would be welcome(*).
-- Rex
(*) Otherwise, I (or others in the KDE-SIG) may get to it eventually, but our current focus is on kde4.
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Sebastian Vahl