Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2021-07-12)

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
irc.libera.chat.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'


Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at: 
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

#2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)

#2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)

#2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
APPROVED (+4,0,-0)

#2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630


= Followups =

= New business =


#2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds 
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624


= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

[Luna Jernberg]

Hello!

Is it okay to visit this meeting even if you are not a member of Fesco?

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:

>  Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
>  FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
>  irc.libera.chat.
>
>  To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
>    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>
>  or run:
>    date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'
>
>
>  Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
>  = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
>
>  #2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
>  APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>
>  #2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
>  APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>
>  #2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
>  APPROVED (+4,0,-0)
>
>  #2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630
>
>
>  = Followups =
>
>  = New business =
>
>
>  #2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624
>
>
>  = Open Floor =
>
>  For more complete details, please visit each individual
>  issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
>  https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
>  If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
>  reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
>  https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
>  up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
>  that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.
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[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 03:50:44PM +0200, Luna Jernberg wrote:
>  Hello!
>  
>  Is it okay to visit this meeting even if you are not a member of Fesco? 
Hi,

yes, very much so. You can comment on existing topics or raise new
ones in the "Open Floor" section if appropriate.

Zbyszek


> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
> zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:
> 
> > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
> > FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
> > irc.libera.chat.
> >
> > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
> >   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
> >
> > or run:
> >   date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'
> >
> >
> > Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
> >
> > = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
> >
> > #2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
> > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
> >
> > #2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
> > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
> >
> > #2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
> > APPROVED (+4,0,-0)
> >
> > #2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630
> >
> >
> > = Followups =
> >
> > = New business =
> >
> >
> > #2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624
> >
> >
> > = Open Floor =
> >
> > For more complete details, please visit each individual
> > issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
> > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
> >
> > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
> > reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
> > https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
> > up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
> > that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.
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[Luna Jernberg]

Will join in and do that then this week :)

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 4:05 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:

>  On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 03:50:44PM +0200, Luna Jernberg wrote:
>  > Hello!
>  >
>  > Is it okay to visit this meeting even if you are not a member of Fesco?
>
>  Hi,
>
>  yes, very much so. You can comment on existing topics or raise new
>  ones in the "Open Floor" section if appropriate.
>
>  Zbyszek
>
>
>  >
>  > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
>  > zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
>  > > FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
>  > > irc.libera.chat.
>  > >
>  > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
>  > >   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>  > >
>  > > or run:
>  > >   date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>  > >
>  > > = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
>  > >
>  > > #2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
>  > > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>  > >
>  > > #2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
>  > > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>  > >
>  > > #2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
>  > > APPROVED (+4,0,-0)
>  > >
>  > > #2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > = Followups =
>  > >
>  > > = New business =
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > #2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > = Open Floor =
>  > >
>  > > For more complete details, please visit each individual
>  > > issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>  > >
>  > > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
>  > > reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
>  > > https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
>  > > up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
>  > > that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.
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>

[Luna Jernberg]

Thanks for letting me join in, will most likely join in as a guest some
other time too won't have time next week however as i am busy helping
rigging up at the GUADEC Gnome Europe Online Conference: http://guadec.org
that opens up for visitors in 8 days then

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 4:11 PM Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Will join in and do that then this week :)
>
>  On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 4:05 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
>  zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 03:50:44PM +0200, Luna Jernberg wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > Is it okay to visit this meeting even if you are not a member of Fesco?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > yes, very much so. You can comment on existing topics or raise new
> > ones in the "Open Floor" section if appropriate.
> >
> > Zbyszek
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
> > > zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:
> > >
> > > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
> > > > FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
> > > > irc.libera.chat.
> > > >
> > > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
> > > >   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
> > > >
> > > > or run:
> > > >   date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
> > > >
> > > > = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
> > > >
> > > > #2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
> > > > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
> > > >
> > > > #2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
> > > > APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
> > > >
> > > > #2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
> > > > APPROVED (+4,0,-0)
> > > >
> > > > #2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > = Followups =
> > > >
> > > > = New business =
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > #2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > = Open Floor =
> > > >
> > > > For more complete details, please visit each individual
> > > > issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
> > > >
> > > > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
> > > > reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
> > > > https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
> > > > up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
> > > > that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> >
>

[Dan Čermák]

Hi folks, I'll probably not make it to today's meeting.

Sorry for the late notice,

Dan

On July 12, 2021 11:20:13 AM UTC, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek"
<zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl&gt; wrote:
>Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
>FESCo meeting Monday at 19:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
>irc.libera.chat.
>
>To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>
>or run:
>  date -d '2021-07-12 19:00 UTC'
>
>
>Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at: 
>https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
>= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
>
>#2629 F35 Change: MinGW environment and toolchain update
>https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2629
>APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>
>#2627 F35 Change: Libvirt Modular Daemons
>https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2627
>APPROVED (+5, 0, 0)
>
>#2626 F35 Change: Remove authselect-compat package
>https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2626
>APPROVED (+4,0,-0)
>
>#2630 F35 Change: libmemcached-awesome
>https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2630
>
>
>= Followups =
>
>= New business =
>
>
>#2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds 
>https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2624
>
>
>= Open Floor = 
>
>For more complete details, please visit each individual
>issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
>https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
>
>If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
>reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
>https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
>up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
>that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting. 
>_______________________________________________
>devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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[Stephen Gallagher]

===================================
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2021-07-12)
===================================


Meeting started by mhroncok at 19:10:41 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2021-07-12/fesco.2021-07...
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* init process  (mhroncok, 19:11:04)

* #2624 Proposal: Ban bots from submitting non-scratch koji builds
  (mhroncok, 19:12:48)
  * AGREED: Bot accounts are allowed, but MUST create a wiki page with
    contact information for the human(s) running the bot and what it
    does. If the bot causes immediate problems, ask releng to disable
    it. If longer term problems, bring to fesco like for any maintainer.
    (+5, 0, -1)  (mhroncok, 19:30:58)

* Next week's chair  (mhroncok, 19:33:34)
  * There is no chair available, mhroncok will ask asynchronously for
    one and cancel next week's meeting if nobody volunteers  (mhroncok,
    19:41:52)

* Open Floor  (mhroncok, 19:42:01)
  * LINK:
   
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_packa...
    (sgallagh[m], 19:46:16)
  * ACTION: dcantrell to respond on the Bugzilla ticket asking the
    reporter to take the issue to upstream  (sgallagh[m], 20:07:26)

Meeting ended at 20:11:01 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* dcantrell to respond on the Bugzilla ticket asking the reporter to
  take the issue to upstream




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dcantrell
  * dcantrell to respond on the Bugzilla ticket asking the reporter to
    take the issue to upstream
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* dcantrell (32)
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* bittin (10)
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