Wifi was broken after latest NM update

[Heiko Adams]

tl;dr: Please test your shit better before pushing updates to the
users!

Hi there,
I'm a little bit angry about the latest NM update. But from the
beginning:

My system has been fresh installed from a Fedora 26 Workstation Live-CD 
two weeks ago and ran without any big issue so far.
Today I applied some updates including NM and after rebooting wifi was
broken. That forced me to steal my printer's lan cable to bring my
system back online. After a little research I found out that the
NetworkManager-wifi packages seems to miss. After installing it and
restarting my system wifi works again.

I know we all are humans which are not perfect but this is a a no-go
that should never happen!
-- 
Regards,

Heiko Adams

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Heiko Adams <ml(a)fedora-blog.de&gt; wrote:
>  tl;dr: Please test your shit better before pushing updates to the
>  users! 
There is absolutely no need to use language like that or refer to
people's work as such.

>  Hi there,
>  I'm a little bit angry about the latest NM update. But from the
>  beginning:
>
>  My system has been fresh installed from a Fedora 26 Workstation Live-CD
>  two weeks ago and ran without any big issue so far.
>  Today I applied some updates including NM and after rebooting wifi was
>  broken. That forced me to steal my printer's lan cable to bring my
>  system back online. After a little research I found out that the
>  NetworkManager-wifi packages seems to miss. After installing it and
>  restarting my system wifi works again. 
Wifi support has been split out from the core NetworkManager for at
least a few NM release cycles and I saw no issues with the upgrade to
1.8.0 with wifi or anything across 15 different systems else so it
appears there might be some corner case.

>  I know we all are humans which are not perfect but this is a a no-go
>  that should never happen! 
Sure but software is complex, and human's can also be nice!

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 03/25/2017 05:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>  On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Heiko Adams
> <ml(a)fedora-blog.de&gt; wrote: 
...snip...

> > I know we all are humans which are not perfect but this is a a
> no-go
> > that should never happen!
>  
>  Sure but software is complex, and human's can also be nice! 
Quite right.

Also do note that F26 is pre-alpha at this point and because of that you
get the updates-testing stream by default (In order to help testing).
You may want to disable updates-testing if you don't want to help test
things, or go back to a stable release.

Additionally, things like wifi are difficult because it's so hardware
dependent. It may work great for 50 people and not for 1 other person.
Thats why widespread testing and feedback is so important.

kevin

[Utkarsh Anand]

> tl;dr: Please test your shit better before pushing updates to the
users!

So much dissatisfaction for something you're not even paying for! 😦

On Mar 25, 2017 16:32, "Heiko Adams" <ml(a)fedora-blog.de&gt; wrote:

>  tl;dr: Please test your shit better before pushing updates to the
>  users!
>
>  Hi there,
>  I'm a little bit angry about the latest NM update. But from the
>  beginning:
>
>  My system has been fresh installed from a Fedora 26 Workstation Live-CD
>  two weeks ago and ran without any big issue so far.
>  Today I applied some updates including NM and after rebooting wifi was
>  broken. That forced me to steal my printer's lan cable to bring my
>  system back online. After a little research I found out that the
>  NetworkManager-wifi packages seems to miss. After installing it and
>  restarting my system wifi works again.
>
>  I know we all are humans which are not perfect but this is a a no-go
>  that should never happen!
>  --
>  Regards,
>
>  Heiko Adams
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