Re: Request for Packages in Fedora Core 3

[Gareth Russell]

> Scribus - The first modern DTP package for Linux.  This is an 
> essential for myself and many others moving from commercial 
> operating systems.  More than any other package, I would love to see 
> this included.  It will help you win converts...

I agree that it should be included but probably not as a default
application due to its Qt status. It just doesn't integrate with the
Gnome environment which is default in Fedora i.e. no Drag and drop
functionality as in KDE.
> KIllustrator or Sketch - Vector graphics would be very good.  I 
> understand one of these products has as much functionality as GIMP but I 
> am not sure which.  Open Office's drawings do not suffice.

I think you're referring to Sketch. Again Sketch would be a better
choice over the KDE app.
> Ardour or Audacity for audio manipulation.

Agreed - some good music/audio apps would add more depth to the packages
available and appeal to a certain niche.

Gareth
FedoraForum.org Administrator

Request for Packages in Fedora Core 3

[Rex Dieter]

Gareth Russell wrote:
> > Scribus - The first modern DTP package for Linux.  This is an

...
> I agree that it should be included but probably not as a default
> application due to its Qt status. It just doesn't integrate with the
> Gnome environment which is default in Fedora i.e. no Drag and drop
> functionality as in KDE.

...
> I think you're referring to Sketch. Again Sketch would be a better
> choice over the KDE app.

IMO, simply whether an applications is based on Qt/KDE or not should 
absolutely *not* be a factor in determining default-app status.  This 
decision should be based upon factors such as the application's 
stability, robustness, features, functionality, maturity, etc...

-- Rex

Request for Packages in Fedora Core 3

Gents,

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.  I believe Scribus should definitely
be included, though maybe not by default
as it does not have the look and feel of a GTK-based environment.

However, please bear in mind many designers and people using DTP are, in
general, not as technical.  They will be inclined to accept simple default
installations.  At least this will expose them to the breadth of open source
programs.  As far as I am aware, no GNOME DTP package is on the horizon yet.

By including it in the default, it will help overcome the perception that
Linux does not have many applications.

Cheers,

David
TASMANIA
> -- Original Message --
> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 13:49:31 -0500
> From: Rex Dieter 
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core 
> Subject: Re: Request for Packages in Fedora Core 3
> Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core
>
> Gareth Russell wrote:
> > > Scribus - The first modern DTP package for Linux.  This is an
>
> ...
> > I agree that it should be included but probably not as a default
> > application due to its Qt status. It just doesn't integrate with the
> > Gnome environment which is default in Fedora i.e. no Drag and drop
> > functionality as in KDE.
>
> ...
> > I think you're referring to Sketch. Again Sketch would be a better
> > choice over the KDE app.
>
> IMO, simply whether an applications is based on Qt/KDE or not should 
> absolutely *not* be a factor in determining default-app status.  This 
> decision should be based upon factors such as the application's 
> stability, robustness, features, functionality, maturity, etc...
>
> -- Rex
>
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Request for Packages in Fedora Core 3

[Owen Taylor]

On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 14:49, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gareth Russell wrote:
> > > Scribus - The first modern DTP package for Linux.  This is an
>
> ...
> > I agree that it should be included but probably not as a default
> > application due to its Qt status. It just doesn't integrate with the
> > Gnome environment which is default in Fedora i.e. no Drag and drop
> > functionality as in KDE.
>
> ...
> > I think you're referring to Sketch. Again Sketch would be a better
> > choice over the KDE app.
>
> IMO, simply whether an applications is based on Qt/KDE or not should 
> absolutely *not* be a factor in determining default-app status.  This 
> decision should be based upon factors such as the application's 
> stability, robustness, features, functionality, maturity, etc...

One way of thinking about this is that it is a heck of a lot easier to
fix a few issues with DND between a Qt app and the GNOME desktop than to
write a new desktop publishing app from scratch...

Regards,
    					Owen