f32-backgrounds available for testing

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

Hello team,

f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca

For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv, 
tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day 
theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.


Happy testing.

-- 
Luya Tshimbalanga
Fedora Design Team
Fedora Design Suite maintainer

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 09:02 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>  Hello team,
>  
>  f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>  
>  For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv, 
>  tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day 
>  theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space. 
You forgot something:

%global fedora_release_name f31

I'll fix it :)
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[Peter Robinson]

>  > Hello team,
>  >
>  > f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>  > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>  >
>  > For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv,
>  > tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day
>  > theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
>
>  You forgot something:
>
>  %global fedora_release_name f31 
I'm guessing you mean f32?

> I'll fix it :)
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[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 18:07 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>  > > Hello team,
>  > > 
>  > > f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>  > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>  > > 
>  > > For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv,
>  > > tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day
>  > > theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
>  > 
>  > You forgot something:
>  > 
>  > %global fedora_release_name f31
>  
>  I'm guessing you mean f32? 
I meant what I pasted was still in the spec file - Luya forgot to
update it to f32.
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[Dan Book]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 12:03 PM Luya Tshimbalanga <luya(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  Hello team,
>
>  f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>
>  For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv,
>  tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day
>  theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
>
>
>  Happy testing.
>  
The extras subpackages don't seem to be included in the build, will they be
added?

Thanks,

-Dan

[Luya Tshimbalanga]

Sadly not on Fedora 32 release.


On 2020-03-06 10:13 a.m., Dan Book wrote:
>  On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 12:03 PM Luya Tshimbalanga 
>  <luya(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>      Hello team,
>
>      f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>      https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>
>      For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard,
>      normalish, tv,
>      tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time
>      of day
>      theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
>
>
>      Happy testing.
>
>
>  The extras subpackages don't seem to be included in the build, will 
>  they be added?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  -Dan
>
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Luya Tshimbalanga
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Fedora Design Suite maintainer

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 09:02 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
>  Hello team,
>  
>  f32-backgrounds is available for testing on
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-ed62604eca
>  
>  For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv, 
>  tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day 
>  theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space. 
The rebase of fedoradesign/backgrounds (the upstream that becomes f32-
backgrounds downstream) to 32 was also quite badly broken, I think.
I've sent a PR that I hope fixes it properly:

https://github.com/fedoradesign/backgrounds/pull/18

firstly, there were lots of '31's that weren't changed to '32's,
including in the XML files used by both KDE and GNOME (of course they
don't use the *same* file, that would be too easy). Secondly, the GNOME
XML file was not updated at all for the change you mention above
(dropping the aspect ratio variant files) - it was still pointing to
those files even though they don't exist any more.

Consider this my annual reminder that this whole desktop background
setup is awful and ridiculously prone to errors like this. It *never
works* for a person to manually make all these changes to two separate
upstreams and five separate downstreams (f**-backgrounds, desktop-
backgrounds, kde-settings, fedora-kickstarts, fedora-comps). It is
*always*, *always* done wrong and needs to be fixed, and it is *never
ever* co-ordinated well between all the moving parts.

Aside from the overall design being awful, the implementation really
really needs to not be manual. Why is there not a script that makes all
the changes? Why do the upstreams not contain test cases that check
that all the things that should be touched on a version rebase are
actually changed?

Grunt work like this is awful and never done right by humans. It should
be done by robots.

I can't find the ticket where I went nuts about this before any more,
but I've been saying it for a while :P
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[Kevin Fenzi]

>  I can't find the ticket where I went nuts about this before any
> more,
>  but I've been saying it for a while :P 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1435423

You can blame me, because I said I would work on fixing it, 
then never did. ;( 

kevin

[Wolfgang Ulbrich]

As always backgrounds are updated too late!

We are already in beta freeze, and desktop maintainers have to file out 
a freeze exception to update their gsettings keys to match new directory 
of wallpapers.

Can you please update you package 2 weeks before beta freeze next time?

Or change background package that this link never must be updated by 
desktop maintainers.

Why not linking (example).

/usr/share/backgrounds/f30/default/f30.xml

to

/usr/share/backgrounds/default.xml


That would save us a lot trouble with filing out freeze exceptions 
during beta freeze.

Since f23 i have to do that for MATE desktop.


Thank you


Wolfgang

[Aleksei Bavshin]

>  For the Design team, new change is the drop of standard, normalish, tv,
>  tv-wider folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day
>  theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
>  
Does desktop-backgrounds-compat have a fix for that change? I remember that
it had symlinks to all these folders and files.

With best regards,
Aleksei