With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
So Developers? What would you like the masses to test?
On 21/12/2005 10:43 a.m., Jesse Keating wrote:
With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
A whole lot of stuff in -extras development hasn't been rebuilt for months and months either - some as far back as March/April (look at perl-* modules in extras for an example). No doubt there are various dependency issues there too.
Can this be looked at as well? I'm sure packages in extras would also benefit from a rebuild with newer gcc and therefore wider testing over the break.
Extras really does look like a second rate citizen if everything in rawhide is rebuilt for a new gc(c|j)/openssl but packages in extras are left untouched for months...
reuben
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:02 +1100, Reuben Farrelly wrote:
A whole lot of stuff in -extras development hasn't been rebuilt for months and months either - some as far back as March/April (look at perl-* modules in extras for an example). No doubt there are various dependency issues there too.
Can this be looked at as well? I'm sure packages in extras would also benefit from a rebuild with newer gcc and therefore wider testing over the break.
Extras really does look like a second rate citizen if everything in rawhide is rebuilt for a new gc(c|j)/openssl but packages in extras are left untouched for months...
Extras is maintained by the individual package maintainers. It is up to them to keep their packages updated. This is usually the way it works inside Red Hat as well, however when we release a new GCC so close to the freeze date, I step in to autobump the packages when possible. There isn't really somebody to do this for all of Extras, nor would extras maintainers be all that welcome for it as a whole. Extras tracking rawhide is pretty tough as things change so rapidly. However during the holidays would be a good time for extras maintainers to rebase their packages off the current rawhide. Also during the freeze and just after a test release would be another good time for Extras maintainers to rebuild their packages.
Extras is only as second rate as the maintainers (community) makes it.
Jesse Keating wrote:
Extras really does look like a second rate citizen if everything in rawhide is rebuilt for a new gc(c|j)/openssl but packages in extras are left untouched for months...
Extras is only as second rate as the maintainers (community) makes it.
Well put. And unfortunately extras buildsys depends on the deps in Core to be consistent, so many days we were unable to build recently after the relative chaos of the gcc-4.1 change. Hopefully things will begin to settle down now.
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:02 +1100, Reuben Farrelly wrote:
A whole lot of stuff in -extras development hasn't been rebuilt for months and months either - some as far back as March/April (look at perl-* modules in extras for an example). No doubt there are various dependency issues there too.
Can this be looked at as well? I'm sure packages in extras would also benefit from a rebuild with newer gcc and therefore wider testing over the break.
Definitely. Especially the c++ packages.
Please, fix the evolution-data-server conflict and I'll be able to install Gnome in my shiny new RawHide box.
I need MS Exchange connectivity at work so I will be testing this.
I plan to give Apache and PHP a spin too.
Merry hacking to all of you!
-William
El mar, 20-12-2005 a las 15:43 -0800, Jesse Keating escribió:
With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
So Developers? What would you like the masses to test?
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On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 22:20 -0500, William Lovaton wrote:
Please, fix the evolution-data-server conflict and I'll be able to install Gnome in my shiny new RawHide box.
I need MS Exchange connectivity at work so I will be testing this.
I plan to give Apache and PHP a spin too.
Merry hacking to all of you!
This was fixed in last night's rawhide.
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 15:43 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
So Developers? What would you like the masses to test?
I'd like to see gpilotd and pilot-link working with my palm zire 72. While everyone seems to agree that it should just work, it hasn't for me and I've tried it on both FC4 and rawhide.
I know this might be trivial, but it's something that doesn't work and should.
R.
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 15:43 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
So Developers? What would you like the masses to test?
I'd like to see gpilotd and pilot-link working with my palm zire 72. While everyone seems to agree that it should just work, it hasn't for me and I've tried it on both FC4 and rawhide.
I know this might be trivial, but it's something that doesn't work and should.
R.
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:39 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 15:43 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
With the holidays upcoming, I plan to get the devel tree as broken-dep free as possible. This includes the foo-kernel packages. I'll be trying to keep those in sync with the new kernels that are pushed into rawhide. A lot of folks will have time off over the next couple weeks and if they choose to test stuff I'd like it to be as easy as possible.
That said, I think it would be good for developers to post what specifically they think should be tested during this time. What components do we need some extra eyes on as we approach test2 freeze?
Off the top of my head, we need the java stack tested, and that is a pretty big thing. Also the functionality of your favorite apps is a good thing to target, given that everything has been rebuilt with the new gcc.
So Developers? What would you like the masses to test?
I'd like to see gpilotd and pilot-link working with my palm zire 72. While everyone seems to agree that it should just work, it hasn't for me and I've tried it on both FC4 and rawhide.
I know this might be trivial, but it's something that doesn't work and should.
I'll request a +1 on this.
Though I am not sure how "ready" gpilotd is yet. I heard that some commits were made to gnome-pilot cvs to support 0.12 of pilot-link but do not know if it is truly working. Have also heard reports of people having success with the rpm's for gnome-pilot being hosted at:
http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/pub/people/mark_adams/
Personally I am just using pilot-link to back up my Treo and waiting til things settle out on gnome-pilot to get it back in Evolution....
--Rob
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