best practices packaging web applications

[Ismael Olea]

Hi all:

I'm studing the packaging of a non trivial web application, mostly based
on php+js+mysql. I've review the wiki looking for policies and other
staff and this is everything I got:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingGuidelines#Web_Applications
        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:PHP

and

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaScript_libraries_packaging_guideline_draf...

Do you know if I'm missing some relevant information or policies?

And, what «best practices» would you recommend to review, at least in
the form of current packages? I'm considering zarafa, xinha and
wordpress.

Thanks.

[Jon Ciesla]

Ismael Olea wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I'm studing the packaging of a non trivial web application, mostly 
> based on php+js+mysql. I've review the wiki looking for policies and 
> other staff and this is everything I got:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingGuidelines#Web_Applications
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:PHP
>
> and
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaScript_libraries_packaging_guideline_draft
>
>
> Do you know if I'm missing some relevant information or policies?
>
> And, what «best practices» would you recommend to review, at least in 
> the form of current packages? I'm considering zarafa, xinha and wordpress.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> Ismael Olea <[e-mail] >
> Planeta OLEA

Hi, I'm Jon Ciesla, I maintain a number of web application packages for 
Fedora, including drupal, moodle, gallery2, and wordpress.  First off, 
zarafa, zinha, and wordpress are all already in Fedora, so hopefully 
that will save you duplicating effort.  Secondly, a good way to learn 
about packaging generally is to look at existing spec files.  I'm not 
holding up mine as paragons of excellence, but I'd recommend having a 
look at specs for all of the above to get a feel for how they work.

-J

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 09:34 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > And, what «best practices» would you recommend to review, at least in 
> > the form of current packages? I'm considering zarafa, xinha and wordpress.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Hi, I'm Jon Ciesla, I maintain a number of web application packages for 
> Fedora, including drupal, moodle, gallery2, and wordpress.  First off, 
> zarafa, zinha, and wordpress are all already in Fedora, so hopefully 
> that will save you duplicating effort.  Secondly, a good way to learn 
> about packaging generally is to look at existing spec files.  I'm not 
> holding up mine as paragons of excellence, but I'd recommend having a 
> look at specs for all of the above to get a feel for how they work.

Ismael was asking what current packages he should look at for guidance
and suggesting zarafa, xinha and wordpress; he wasn't proposing to
package them.

In addition to all that's been mentioned so far, I'd actually recommend
a quick look at the Mandriva web app policy:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Web_Applications . Obviously it
doesn't apply in its entirety to Fedora, but a lot of it does, it's
well-written and gives a good overview of the theory behind packaging
web apps properly. Maybe we should even adapt it for Fedora.

[Jon Ciesla]

Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 09:34 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > > And, what «best practices» would you recommend to review, at least in 
> > > the form of current packages? I'm considering zarafa, xinha and wordpress.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Hi, I'm Jon Ciesla, I maintain a number of web application packages for 
> > Fedora, including drupal, moodle, gallery2, and wordpress.  First off, 
> > zarafa, zinha, and wordpress are all already in Fedora, so hopefully 
> > that will save you duplicating effort.  Secondly, a good way to learn 
> > about packaging generally is to look at existing spec files.  I'm not 
> > holding up mine as paragons of excellence, but I'd recommend having a 
> > look at specs for all of the above to get a feel for how they work.
>
> Ismael was asking what current packages he should look at for guidance
> and suggesting zarafa, xinha and wordpress; he wasn't proposing to
> package them.
>
> In addition to all that's been mentioned so far, I'd actually recommend
> a quick look at the Mandriva web app policy:
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Web_Applications . Obviously it
> doesn't apply in its entirety to Fedora, but a lot of it does, it's
> well-written and gives a good overview of the theory behind packaging
> web apps properly. Maybe we should even adapt it for Fedora.

Ah, I missed that detail.

-J

[Ismael Olea]

>

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

In addition to all that's been mentioned so far, I'd actually recommend
> a quick look at the Mandriva web app policy:
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Web_Applications . Obviously it
> doesn't apply in its entirety to Fedora, but a lot of it does, it's
> well-written and gives a good overview of the theory behind packaging

this is preciselly the info I were looking for
> web apps properly. Maybe we should even adapt it for Fedora.

I'll consider it too.

---8<---

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Jon Ciesla  wrote:
>

Fedora, including drupal, moodle, gallery2, and wordpress.  First off,

drupal and moodle are significative good examples I missed: good tip!

Thanks both :-)