Why nobody uses vnc module to X?

[Adam Tkac]

Hi all,

I'm really surprised that nobody uses vnc's rawhide module to X. Module 
was completely unusable since 2nd March (got sigsegv) and no bugreport 
came to me :( . So looks that no one uses rawhide vnc (unlikely) or all 
need RANDR support and have national-specific keyboards and for this use 
vino or krfb (unlikely too). Or vnc module users are disgusted with 
sometimes nasty bugs and bugreporting and they prefer slower, but 
sometimes more reliable servers? This isn't sounds good for me :( . I'm  
really interested in how can I reconquer prestige of vnc module again :)

Regards, -A-

[Andy Burns]

On 27/03/07, Adam Tkac  wrote:
> I'm really surprised that nobody uses vnc's rawhide module to X. Module
> was completely unusable since 2nd March (got sigsegv) and no bugreport
> came to me :( .

I do the occasional anaconda/vnc install, but after installation for
remote sessions I tend to use X/SSH tunnels for improved security, and
less hassle with other people's firewalls.
> I'm really interested in how can I reconquer prestige of vnc module again :)

Does Fedora include an open version of NX?

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> On 27/03/07, Adam Tkac  wrote:
> > I'm really surprised that nobody uses vnc's rawhide module to X. Module
> > was completely unusable since 2nd March (got sigsegv) and no bugreport
> > came to me :( .
>
> I do the occasional anaconda/vnc install, but after installation for
> remote sessions I tend to use X/SSH tunnels for improved security, and
> less hassle with other people's firewalls.

This uses the stand-alone vncserver, not the vnc X module.

Jeremy

[T. E. Pickering]

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> > On 27/03/07, Adam Tkac  wrote:
> > > I'm really surprised that nobody uses vnc's rawhide module to X.  
> > > Module
> > > was completely unusable since 2nd March (got sigsegv) and no  
> > > bugreport
> > > came to me :( .
> >
> > I do the occasional anaconda/vnc install, but after installation for
> > remote sessions I tend to use X/SSH tunnels for improved security,  
> > and
> > less hassle with other people's firewalls.
>
> This uses the stand-alone vncserver, not the vnc X module.
>
> Jeremy

i'll chime in and state that we here at the MMT use the X vnc.so  
module heavily for remote engineering support of our systems on the  
mountain.  it saves a lot of grief to be able to just connect in and  
see/manipulate the telescope operator's desktop exactly as they see  
it.  the vnc.so module is a lot easier to set up once and forget  
whereas the other options require operators to modify a bunch of  
stuff within their desktop config.  we tried those and they were not  
very reliable due to those user config issues.  we, of course, keep  
the vnc ports we used well-firewalled and require ssh tunneling to  
connect.

i have not yet had a chance to try out vnc.so in FC7t* or rawhide,  
though.  we have not had any problems with FC6 or any previous  
version that included vnc.so (since FC1 or 2?).  i will certainly  
squawk if it does stop working or goes away before FC7.  it, in fact,  
would likely be a deal-breaker for us that would prevent us from  
using FC7 if it did go away.

tim

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[eric]

Timothy Pickering wrote:
> i have not yet had a chance to try out vnc.so in FC7t* or rawhide, 
> though.  we have not had any problems with FC6 or any previous version 
> that included vnc.so (since FC1 or 2?).  i will certainly squawk if it 
> does stop working or goes away before FC7.  it, in fact, would likely 
> be a deal-breaker for us that would prevent us from using FC7 if it 
> did go away.

I use vnc.so module extensively on the daily basis to control remote 
headless servers, including the latest development build (4.16.07). No 
problem so far, with the exception of the double mouse pointers when 
viewing a XEN guess  OS (domU) within a XEN host (dom0) that is within a 
remote viewer  (sort of like viewing X within an X within an X). Of 
course, the workaround and better solution to the above problem would be 
to enable vnc server within domU and view from remote directly.

eric

[Rahul Sundaram]

Timothy Pickering wrote:
> i have not yet had a chance to try out vnc.so in FC7t* or rawhide, 
> though.  we have not had any problems with FC6 or any previous version 
> that included vnc.so (since FC1 or 2?).  i will certainly squawk if it 
> does stop working or goes away before FC7.  it, in fact, would likely be 
> a deal-breaker for us that would prevent us from using FC7 if it did go 
> away.

It a feature like that is important it would be better for you to try 
out the development version or one of the test releases and provide 
feedback in the form of bugzilla reports when things don't work.

Rahul