7:21 a.m.
On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox(a)bzb.us> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what it would be)
to add legacy extension capability back it would mark a significant
divergence with upstream and I'm not sure if addons.mozilla.org could
even be used then anyway as it'd detect FF57 and state that older
extensions are not supported. That doesn't even go into the legal situation
as to whether we could even call it Firefox with such divergence (remember
Iceweasel?) ... there's a reason there's a whitelist on the Firefox
packages for build permissions after all.
And how long would you want FF packagers to maintain such a patchset for?
Even the next ESR will drop legacy extensions.
Yup! It's a non-starter. Mozilla knows exactly what they are doing - and
have made their decision.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-firefox-54/#
comment-223852
To keep interested parties here in the loop...
The COPR is operational and a draft for review has been entered into the
magazine with details for this preview on the magazine mailing list.
I'll keep the COPR updated as best I can with any changes to the the Fedora
27 package... may lag by a day or so but I'll do my best ;)
Note that although there are F25 builds in the COPR there will be no
Firefox 57 builds going into the official F25 repos so that one really is
no support and just there to ease testing.
I'll keep the COPR running and updated until the Firefox 57 packages
eventually return to the F26 testing repo after it is released upstream.
The COPR will be removed at that point.
12:26 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 18 Oct 2017 13:21, "James Hogarth" <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox(a)bzb.us> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what it would be)
to add legacy extension capability back it would mark a significant
divergence with upstream and I'm not sure if addons.mozilla.org could
even be used then anyway as it'd detect FF57 and state that older
extensions are not supported. That doesn't even go into the legal situation
as to whether we could even call it Firefox with such divergence (remember
Iceweasel?) ... there's a reason there's a whitelist on the Firefox
packages for build permissions after all.
And how long would you want FF packagers to maintain such a patchset for?
Even the next ESR will drop legacy extensions.
Yup! It's a non-starter. Mozilla knows exactly what they are doing - and
have made their decision.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-
firefox-54/#comment-223852
To keep interested parties here in the loop...
The COPR is operational and a draft for review has been entered into the
magazine with details for this preview on the magazine mailing list.
I'll keep the COPR updated as best I can with any changes to the the Fedora
27 package... may lag by a day or so but I'll do my best ;)
Note that although there are F25 builds in the COPR there will be no
Firefox 57 builds going into the official F25 repos so that one really is
no support and just there to ease testing.
I'll keep the COPR running and updated until the Firefox 57 packages
eventually return to the F26 testing repo after it is released upstream.
The COPR will be removed at that point.
The Fedora Magazine article is going out tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone involved for the quick turn around on comments and
editorial review.
Matt are you going to merge that branch back to master and F27 and continue
from there?
Just want to make sure my scripts will point at your intended build source
for the automated COPR updates.
12:27 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 19 Oct 2017 18:26, "James Hogarth" <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 Oct 2017 13:21, "James Hogarth" <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox(a)bzb.us> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what it would be)
to add legacy extension capability back it would mark a significant
divergence with upstream and I'm not sure if addons.mozilla.org could
even be used then anyway as it'd detect FF57 and state that older
extensions are not supported. That doesn't even go into the legal situation
as to whether we could even call it Firefox with such divergence (remember
Iceweasel?) ... there's a reason there's a whitelist on the Firefox
packages for build permissions after all.
And how long would you want FF packagers to maintain such a patchset for?
Even the next ESR will drop legacy extensions.
Yup! It's a non-starter. Mozilla knows exactly what they are doing - and
have made their decision.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-fir
efox-54/#comment-223852
To keep interested parties here in the loop...
The COPR is operational and a draft for review has been entered into the
magazine with details for this preview on the magazine mailing list.
I'll keep the COPR updated as best I can with any changes to the the Fedora
27 package... may lag by a day or so but I'll do my best ;)
Note that although there are F25 builds in the COPR there will be no
Firefox 57 builds going into the official F25 repos so that one really is
no support and just there to ease testing.
I'll keep the COPR running and updated until the Firefox 57 packages
eventually return to the F26 testing repo after it is released upstream.
The COPR will be removed at that point.
The Fedora Magazine article is going out tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone involved for the quick turn around on comments and
editorial review.
Matt are you going to merge that branch back to master and F27 and continue
from there?
Just want to make sure my scripts will point at your intended build source
for the automated COPR updates.
Err... Martin I meant... blame autocorrect?
1:09 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 10/18/17 07:21, James Hogarth wrote:
On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox(a)bzb.us
<mailto:gbcox@bzb.us>> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth
<james.hogarth(a)gmail.com <mailto:james.hogarth@gmail.com>> wrote:
And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what
it would be) to add legacy extension capability back it would
mark a significant divergence with upstream and I'm not sure
if addons.mozilla.org <http://addons.mozilla.org> could even
be used then anyway as it'd detect FF57 and state that older
extensions are not supported. That doesn't even go into the
legal situation as to whether we could even call it Firefox
with such divergence (remember Iceweasel?) ... there's a
reason there's a whitelist on the Firefox packages for build
permissions after all.
And how long would you want FF packagers to maintain such a
patchset for? Even the next ESR will drop legacy extensions.
Yup! It's a non-starter. Mozilla knows exactly what they are
doing - and have made their decision.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-firefox-54/#comm...
<https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/04/05/compatibility-firefox-54/#comm...
To keep interested parties here in the loop...
The COPR is operational and a draft for review has been entered into
the magazine with details for this preview on the magazine mailing list.
I'll keep the COPR updated as best I can with any changes to the the
Fedora 27 package... may lag by a day or so but I'll do my best ;)
Note that although there are F25 builds in the COPR there will be no
Firefox 57 builds going into the official F25 repos so that one really
is no support and just there to ease testing.
I'll keep the COPR running and updated until the Firefox 57 packages
eventually return to the F26 testing repo after it is released upstream.
The COPR will be removed at that point.
Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on copr.fedorainfracloud.org
but did not find it.
Thanks,
-Mat
1:17 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Mátyás Selmeci <mselmeci.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on
copr.fedorainfracloud.org but
did not find it.
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jhogarth/firefox57/
Also, firefox-57.0-0.5 just finished building in koji:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37
6:07 a.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 19 October 2017 at 19:17, Alexander Ploumistos
<alex.ploumistos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Mátyás Selmeci
<mselmeci.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on copr.fedorainfracloud.org
but
> did not find it.
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jhogarth/firefox57/
Also, firefox-57.0-0.5 just finished building in koji:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37
I do need sleep at some point ;)
Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR
It'll be there in a few hours or so (however long it takes for the
build in COPR).
6:32 a.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 20 October 2017 at 12:07, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 19 October 2017 at 19:17, Alexander Ploumistos
<alex.ploumistos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Mátyás Selmeci <mselmeci.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on
copr.fedorainfracloud.org but
>> did not find it.
>
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jhogarth/firefox57/
>
> Also, firefox-57.0-0.5 just finished building in koji:
>
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37
>
I do need sleep at some point ;)
Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR
It'll be there in a few hours or so (however long it takes for the
build in COPR).
Oh and the article is up in Fedora Magazine now:
https://fedoramagazine.org/firefox-57-coming-soon-quantum-leap/
Hopefully this helps our userbase understand the changes coming, and
provides enough chance for early testing it'll be as smooth an update
as we can manage.
6:41 a.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:07 PM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I do need sleep at some point ;)
:-O
Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR
It'll be there in a few hours or so (however long it takes for the
build in COPR).
I do want to thank both you and Martin for your work on this.
By the way, that was a very nice article on Fedora Magazine, even for
a Chrome user ;)
4:43 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On 20 October 2017 at 12:41, Alexander Ploumistos
<alex.ploumistos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:07 PM, James Hogarth
<james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I do need sleep at some point ;)
:-O
> Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR
>
> It'll be there in a few hours or so (however long it takes for the
> build in COPR).
I do want to thank both you and Martin for your work on this.
By the way, that was a very nice article on Fedora Magazine, even for
a Chrome user ;)
No worries... it is important we provide the best experience to our
user base that we can ...
On a related note the reddit thread on the article reminded me that we
really should make a note of the Firefox 57 impact in the F27 release
notes and known issues.
Is anyone willing to pick that bit up and run with it?
4:48 p.m.
New subject: Updates for Firefox 57 beta
On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 14:41 +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:07 PM, James Hogarth
<james.hogarth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I do need sleep at some point ;)
:-O
> Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR
>
> It'll be there in a few hours or so (however long it takes for the
> build in COPR).
I do want to thank both you and Martin for your work on this.
By the way, that was a very nice article on Fedora Magazine, even for
a Chrome user ;)
+1, thanks very much for this James!
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