Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. There's the nouveau.freedesktop.org project that's working on making this happen, but they still have a long way to go. As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc is a way to work around the problem. The locking problem for matrox cards mentioned on the page was fixed recently and I've backported the patch to rawhide, it should show up tomorrow - it affects the xserver and the matrox driver rpms. That said matrox cards are still very much untested with aiglx and compiz, in particular they seem to also have the maximum texture size problem.
cheers, Kristian
<driconf> <device screen="0" driver="radeon"> <application name="all"> <option name="allow_large_textures" value="2" /> </application> </device> </driconf>
On 08/21/06 12:10 -0400 Kristian H??gsberg wrote:
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. There's the nouveau.freedesktop.org project that's working on making this happen, but they still have a long way to go. As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc is a way to work around the problem. The locking problem for matrox cards mentioned on the page was fixed recently and I've backported the patch to rawhide, it should show up tomorrow - it affects the xserver and the matrox driver rpms. That said matrox cards are still very much untested with aiglx and compiz, in particular they seem to also have the maximum texture size problem.
Thanks Kristian,
I'm not sure what gen my radeon 7000 is, will confirm that tonight. I'll try out the drirc file. What kind of symptoms would you see with the maximum texture size issue?
Sam
cheers, Kristian
<driconf> <device screen="0" driver="radeon"> <application name="all"> <option name="allow_large_textures" value="2" /> </application> </device> </driconf>
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On 08/21/06 22:54 +0000 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Sam Folk-Williams <samfw <at> redhat.com> writes:
I'm not sure what gen my radeon 7000 is, will confirm that tonight.
The Radeon 7000 is a r100 series (rv100 more precisely) chipset.
Thanks! And, for what its worth dropping in the /etc/drirc that Kristian sent fixed my problems. I am now enjoying my bling happily.
Sam
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Once upon a time, Kristian Hgsberg krh@redhat.com said:
As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc
This is probably a dumb question (and yes, I've Googled for an answer first), but how do I enable all of this on a rawhide system? How do I switch from metacity to compiz?
With the update to Mesa last week, I can now test this on my test system (ATI R380), but I seemed to have missed _how_ to test it.
On 08/21/06 14:02 -0500 Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Kristian Hgsberg krh@redhat.com said:
As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc
This is probably a dumb question (and yes, I've Googled for an answer first), but how do I enable all of this on a rawhide system? How do I switch from metacity to compiz?
With the update to Mesa last week, I can now test this on my test system (ATI R380), but I seemed to have missed _how_ to test it.
Not a dump question -- I'm working on a how-to. After you install compiz, you can run the following commands to test:
gnome-window-decorator & compiz --replace gconf
If it works it's quite something!
Sam
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On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:06 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Not a dump question -- I'm working on a how-to. After you install compiz, you can run the following commands to test:
...
Or, you can go the easier route of running System->Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effects and select "Enable Desktop Effects" ;-)
Jeremy
Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:06 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Not a dump question -- I'm working on a how-to. After you install compiz, you can run the following commands to test:
...
Or, you can go the easier route of running System->Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effects and select "Enable Desktop Effects" ;-)
Where does that come from? I don't have it on my rawhide system, and I'm running compiz the "old fashioned way".
Jeremy
Pete Graner (pgraner@redhat.com) said:
Or, you can go the easier route of running System->Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effects and select "Enable Desktop Effects" ;-)
Where does that come from? I don't have it on my rawhide system, and I'm running compiz the "old fashioned way".
Newer compiz packages.
Bill
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Pete Graner (pgraner@redhat.com) said:
Or, you can go the easier route of running System->Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effects and select "Enable Desktop Effects" ;-)
Where does that come from? I don't have it on my rawhide system, and I'm running compiz the "old fashioned way".
Newer compiz packages.
Like how new? I'm running compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 which yum is telling me is the latest.
Pete
Bill
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:52, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Like how new? I'm running compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 which yum is telling me is the latest.
$ rpm -q compiz compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
Oh dear.
compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 is rpm newer than compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
*sigh*
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:52, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Like how new? I'm running compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 which yum is telling me is the latest.
$ rpm -q compiz compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
Oh dear.
compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 is rpm newer than compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
*sigh*
:-(
/me goes off to:
yum remove compiz && yum install compiz
On 8/21/06, Pete Graner pgraner@redhat.com wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:52, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Like how new? I'm running compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 which yum is telling me is the latest.
$ rpm -q compiz compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
Oh dear.
compiz-0.0.13-5.1.fc6 is rpm newer than compiz-0.0.13-0.16.20060817git.fc6
*sigh*
:-(
/me goes off to:
yum remove compiz && yum install compiz
I was using aiglx with fedora core 5 and it works with few problems. But now i upgrade again to rawhide. The upgrade didn't install compiz. I just installed it and the only word that comes to me is:
WOW!
Guys, really amazing. Thank you for the efforts.
Hi,
It's not very clear for me: is compiz replacing metacity? I thought metacity was a compositing manager too and was designed to work with AIGLX whereas compiz was designed to work with Xgl.
Thanks,
Émeric
Émeric Maschino wrote:
Hi,
It's not very clear for me: is compiz replacing metacity? I thought metacity was a compositing manager too and was designed to work with AIGLX whereas compiz was designed to work with Xgl.
Sigh. Both compiz and metacity's compositor are targetted at any X server with support for the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension. Xgl and AIGLX are two ways of getting that extension.
- ajax
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:02, Chris Adams wrote:
This is probably a dumb question (and yes, I've Googled for an answer first), but how do I enable all of this on a rawhide system? Â How do I switch from metacity to compiz?
gnome-window-decorator & compiz --replace gconf
man, 21 08 2006 kl. 14:02 -0500, skrev Chris Adams:
Once upon a time, Kristian Hgsberg krh@redhat.com said:
As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc
This is probably a dumb question (and yes, I've Googled for an answer first), but how do I enable all of this on a rawhide system? How do I switch from metacity to compiz?
With the update to Mesa last week, I can now test this on my test system (ATI R380), but I seemed to have missed _how_ to test it.
yum install compiz should do it on an up to date Development system.
- David Nielsen
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. There's the nouveau.freedesktop.org project that's working on making this happen, but they still have a long way to go. As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size. We're trying to find a way to fix this, but for now, dropping the attached drirc in /etc is a way to work around the problem. The locking problem for matrox cards mentioned on the page was fixed recently and I've backported the patch to rawhide, it should show up tomorrow - it affects the xserver and the matrox driver rpms. That said matrox cards are still very much untested with aiglx and compiz, in particular they seem to also have the maximum texture size problem.
cheers, Kristian
Very cool, it is working nicely on my IBM TP30 with this card.
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
I just installed compiz and detached the drirc to /etc and selected 'Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effect' and now it got wobbly Windows and Workspaces on a Cube. Very Nice Work.
Tim
Tim Lauridsen wrote :
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. [...]
Very cool, it is working nicely on my IBM TP30 with this card.
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
I just installed compiz and detached the drirc to /etc and selected 'Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effect' and now it got wobbly Windows and Workspaces on a Cube. Very Nice Work.
Same here... I just enabled "Desktop Effects" on my Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Mobility, r300) and Latitude X1 (Intel i915 IIRC) and both work perfectly. Only three minor annoyances I can see right now : - No sticky windows, nor does gkrellm appear on more than one desktop - The sloppy focus was disabled after the switch, I had to re-enable it - It seems to not be possible to have more than 4 workspaces
I'll go looking for where to report these now, as I can't live with "only" 4 workspaces anymore ;-) Not even if the tradeoff is to have wobbly windows.
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Matthias
Matthias Saou wrote:
Tim Lauridsen wrote :
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. [...]
Very cool, it is working nicely on my IBM TP30 with this card.
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
I just installed compiz and detached the drirc to /etc and selected 'Preferences->More Preferences->Desktop Effect' and now it got wobbly Windows and Workspaces on a Cube. Very Nice Work.
Same here... I just enabled "Desktop Effects" on my Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Mobility, r300) and Latitude X1 (Intel i915 IIRC) and both work perfectly. Only three minor annoyances I can see right now :
- No sticky windows, nor does gkrellm appear on more than one desktop
- The sloppy focus was disabled after the switch, I had to re-enable it
- It seems to not be possible to have more than 4 workspaces
I'll go looking for where to report these now, as I can't live with "only" 4 workspaces anymore ;-) Not even if the tradeoff is to have wobbly windows.
its also not possible to have 2 (4 takes too much panel space for me)
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Matthias
dragoran wrote:
Matthias Saou wrote:
- It seems to not be possible to have more than 4 workspaces
I'll go looking for where to report these now, as I can't live with "only" 4 workspaces anymore ;-) Not even if the tradeoff is to have wobbly windows.
its also not possible to have 2 (4 takes too much panel space for me)
gconftool-2 -t int -s /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/size 2
Replace "2" with your favorite magic number.
- ajax
Adam Jackson wrote :
dragoran wrote:
Matthias Saou wrote:
- It seems to not be possible to have more than 4 workspaces
I'll go looking for where to report these now, as I can't live with "only" 4 workspaces anymore ;-) Not even if the tradeoff is to have wobbly windows.
its also not possible to have 2 (4 takes too much panel space for me)
gconftool-2 -t int -s /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/size 2
Replace "2" with your favorite magic number.
Aaaah, neat! Still not possible to use multiple rows (I usually use 4x2), nor drag and drop between workspaces in the gnome workspace switcher, but I suppose all this is still work in progress.
Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll keep compiz running for now! :-)
Matthias
On 8/22/06, Matthias Saou thias@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net wrote:
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Which reminds me, do we have any idea when Nvidia/ATI plan on updating their drivers?
-Chris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Chris Weyl wrote:
On 8/22/06, Matthias Saou thias@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net wrote:
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Which reminds me, do we have any idea when Nvidia/ATI plan on updating their drivers?
I thought ATI already did. There are still some bugs though. A friend was running alglx last night at the PLUG Advanced Topics meeting using an ATI card. Worked pretty well, but had a problem with some transparencies turning blue.
As for nVIDIA, every time someone mentions it on their discussion boards, the mods (or at least "Thunderbird") freaks out and closes down the discussion. I don't know when it will be ready. Probably a week or two after FC6 is released. (If we are lucky.)
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, alan wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Chris Weyl wrote:
On 8/22/06, Matthias Saou thias@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net wrote:
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Which reminds me, do we have any idea when Nvidia/ATI plan on updating their drivers?
I thought ATI already did. There are still some bugs though. A friend was running alglx last night at the PLUG Advanced Topics meeting using an ATI card. Worked pretty well, but had a problem with some transparencies turning blue.
Actually, thinking back, he was using the free ATI driver.
Chris Weyl wrote:
On 8/22/06, Matthias Saou thias@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net wrote:
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Which reminds me, do we have any idea when Nvidia/ATI plan on updating their drivers?
ati has two drivers that supports xorg-7.1 but no aiglx (gl_ext_tfp) a nvidia developer has said in #nvidia (freenode) that a driver supporting xorg-7.1 is finsihed and they are waiting on the web guys to publish it. the aiglx capable drivers are still in development and only nvidia knows when they will release them. 1 or 2 mounths from now seems to be a good gues... as for ati+aiglx: no idea :( but for cards r200/r300 there is a free driver that works (but with some bugs) ;)
-Chris
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 18:29 +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:
Same here... I just enabled "Desktop Effects" on my Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Mobility, r300) and Latitude X1 (Intel i915 IIRC) and both work perfectly. Only three minor annoyances I can see right now :
- No sticky windows, nor does gkrellm appear on more than one desktop
- The sloppy focus was disabled after the switch, I had to re-enable it
- It seems to not be possible to have more than 4 workspaces
I'll go looking for where to report these now, as I can't live with "only" 4 workspaces anymore ;-) Not even if the tradeoff is to have wobbly windows.
Under /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/ I have "size" set to 6.
And of course, my new workstation will arrive in 2 days... with an Nvidia card, rats! :-(
Matthias
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On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:10:00PM -0400, Kristian H??gsberg wrote:
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. There's the nouveau.freedesktop.org project that's working on making this happen, but they still have a long way to go. As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size.
I employed the workaround on my Dell Latitude D610 laptop which has an ATI M300 chip. Everything worked great for a few minutes, then X mostly hung; could move the mouse, but no display update and no keyboard. I guess no bling for me yet.
tir, 22 08 2006 kl. 12:18 -0500, skrev Matt Domsch:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:10:00PM -0400, Kristian H??gsberg wrote:
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great
We have a list here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx
Nvidia cards are not going to work, the open driver does not support 3d. There's the nouveau.freedesktop.org project that's working on making this happen, but they still have a long way to go. As for ATI, r100 - r300 should work, but there's an issue with maximum texture size.
I employed the workaround on my Dell Latitude D610 laptop which has an ATI M300 chip. Everything worked great for a few minutes, then X mostly hung; could move the mouse, but no display update and no keyboard. I guess no bling for me yet.
That does happen for me as well rather at random, I haven't figure out how to reproduce it yet so I've refrained from reporting it. Sometimes it's glorious for days, then boom, other times it hangs after a few hours of use.
- David Nielsen
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
For what it's worth, my Radeon 9250 (using the in-tree Mesa/R200 DRI driver stack) works beautifully with AIGLX/Compiz - at least, as of the recent Mesa snapshot which fixed several GL-apps-make-X-go-crashy bugs I was experiencing. :)
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great.
Wow!! This is very sweet. On my Core Duo laptop with a i945 chipset this works well. Only problem is my tsclient/rdesktop sessions with the transparancy are unusable. So do I log a bug against compiz, tsclient, rdesktop or something else?
Pete
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 09:35 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great.
Wow!! This is very sweet. On my Core Duo laptop with a i945 chipset this works well. Only problem is my tsclient/rdesktop sessions with the transparancy are unusable. So do I log a bug against compiz, tsclient, rdesktop or something else?
Pete
Know problem with all composite / AigGLX / XGL implementations. Just add "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" before the rdesktop/tlsclient command line. (E.g. XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 rdesktop win_machine -g 1024x768)
- Gilboa
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great.
Wow!! This is very sweet. On my Core Duo laptop with a i945 chipset this works well. Only problem is my tsclient/rdesktop sessions with the transparancy are unusable. So do I log a bug against compiz, tsclient, rdesktop or something else?
Pete
Know problem with all composite / AigGLX / XGL implementations. Just add "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" before the rdesktop/tlsclient command line. (E.g. XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 rdesktop win_machine -g 1024x768)
Yes, just found that in http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=140511 and it mentions that it was fixed in xcompmgr. Can the same fix be used for compiz?
Also noticed that if you maximize some windows (gnome-terminal especially) that they don't fully maximize, I presume this is also a known bug too?
Cheers, Pete
Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 09:35 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Is any one aware of a list of cards that are known to work with the compiz bling? For example, my radeon 7000 works enough to see the effects, but the right 1/4 of the monitor disappears :(. The Nvidia GeForce 440 does not work at all.
If anyone can point me to something that'd be great.
Wow!! This is very sweet. On my Core Duo laptop with a i945 chipset this works well. Only problem is my tsclient/rdesktop sessions with the transparancy are unusable. So do I log a bug against compiz, tsclient, rdesktop or something else?
Pete
Know problem with all composite / AigGLX / XGL implementations.
ITYM "known problem with rdesktop". rdesktop should choose the visual it actually wants.
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