4:56 a.m.
I updated my system today and noticed that one of updated packages was
"yum". Yes, that package manager tool we were supposed to obsolete with
switch to "dnf" few releases ago.
So I decided to remove it:
11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
Dependencies resolved.
========================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
========================================================================
Removing:
bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide 27 k
brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17 @System 10 k
createrepo noarch 0.10.3-10.fc25 @rawhide 301 k
createrepo_c x86_64 0.10.0-5.fc25 @rawhide 150 k
createrepo_c-libs x86_64 0.10.0-5.fc25 @rawhide 207 k
drpm x86_64 0.3.0-3.fc25 @rawhide 142 k
dumpet x86_64 2.1-12.fc24 @rawhide 38 k
fedora-packager noarch 0.5.10.7-3.fc25 @rawhide 80 k
fedpkg noarch 1.24-4.fc25 @rawhide 87 k
koji noarch 1.10.1-11.fc25 @rawhide 1.1 M
livecd-tools x86_64 1:23.3-2.fc25 @rawhide 147 k
lorax x86_64 25.12-1.fc26 @rawhide 534 k
lorax-templates-generic x86_64 25.12-1.fc26 @rawhide 111 k
mock noarch 1.2.18-2.fc25 @rawhide 1.2 M
packagedb-cli noarch 2.13-2.fc25 @rawhide 222 k
pyrpkg noarch 1.46-2.fc25 @rawhide 434 k
python-dockerfile-parse noarch 0.0.5-5.fc25 @rawhide 67 k
python-imgcreate x86_64 1:23.3-2.fc25 @rawhide 282 k
python-kickstart noarch 2.31-1.fc25 @rawhide 1.7 M
python-ordered-set noarch 2.0.0-4.fc25 @rawhide 15 k
python-osbs-client noarch 0.24-2.fc25 @rawhide 429 k
python2-deltarpm x86_64 3.6-17.fc25 @rawhide 44 k
python2-iniparse noarch 0.4-20.fc25 @rawhide 113 k
python2-pygpgme x86_64 0.3-18.fc25 @rawhide 306 k
python2-yubico noarch 1.3.2-3.fc25 @rawhide 244 k
python3-beaker noarch 1.5.4-14.fc25 @rawhide 355 k
python3-mako noarch 1.0.3-3.fc25 @rawhide 755 k
pyusb noarch 1.0.0-2.fc25 @rawhide 405 k
rhpkg noarch 1.18-2.fc20 @brew 125 k
squashfs-tools x86_64 4.3-12.fc24 @rawhide 380 k
system-config-keyboard noarch 1.4.0-10.fc25 @rawhide 40 k
system-config-keyboard-base noarch 1.4.0-10.fc25 @rawhide 469 k
yum noarch 3.4.3-510.fc25 @rawhide 5.6 M
yum-langpacks noarch 0.4.5-3.fc24 @rawhide 66 k
yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-510.fc25 @rawhide 334 k
Transaction Summary
========================================================================
Remove 35 Packages
Installed size: 16 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Operation aborted.
Are there plans to migrate tools/packages to stop depending on "yum" in
Fedora 25-26 cycles?
5:02 a.m.
On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz <mjuszkiewicz(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
I updated my system today and noticed that one of updated packages
was
"yum". Yes, that package manager tool we were supposed to obsolete with
switch to "dnf" few releases ago.
So I decided to remove it:
11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
Dependencies resolved.
========================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
========================================================================
Removing:
bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide 27 k
brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17 @System 10 k
Fedora 17?
--
Yours sincerely,
Christopher Meng
http://cicku.me
5:08 a.m.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 18:02:35 +0800
Christopher Meng <i(a)cicku.me> wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz
<mjuszkiewicz(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> I updated my system today and noticed that one of updated packages
> was "yum". Yes, that package manager tool we were supposed to
> obsolete with switch to "dnf" few releases ago.
>
> So I decided to remove it:
>
> 11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
> Dependencies resolved.
> ========================================================================
> Package Arch Version Repository
> Size
> ========================================================================
> Removing:
> bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide
> 27 k brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17
> @System 10 k
Fedora 17?
yep, looks like an outdated internal package, there is a new location
for internal build tools.
Dan
5:27 a.m.
W dniu 08.08.2016 o 12:02, Christopher Meng pisze:
On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz
<mjuszkiewicz(a)redhat.com>
> 11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
> Dependencies resolved.
> ========================================================================
> Package Arch Version Repository
> Size
> ========================================================================
> Removing:
> bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide 27 k
> brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17 @System 10 k
Fedora 17?
I do not reinstall system every release.
12:26 root@puchatek:hrw# for f in `seq 16 26`;do printf "$f\t"; rpm
-qa|grep fc$f|wc -l;done
16 0
17 1
18 0
19 2
20 3
21 5
22 18
23 11
24 1009
25 1845
26 427
7:55 a.m.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz
<mjuszkiewicz(a)redhat.com> wrote:
W dniu 08.08.2016 o 12:02, Christopher Meng pisze:
> On Monday, 8 August 2016, Marcin Juszkiewicz <mjuszkiewicz(a)redhat.com>
>> 11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
>> Dependencies resolved.
>> ========================================================================
>> Package Arch Version Repository
>> Size
>> ========================================================================
>> Removing:
>> bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide 27 k
>> brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17 @System 10 k
>
>
> Fedora 17?
I do not reinstall system every release.
Then you need to do a "yum list extras" to check on deletable,
outdated packages.
> 12:26 root@puchatek:hrw# for f in `seq 16 26`;do printf "$f\t"; rpm
> -qa|grep fc$f|wc -l;done
> 16 0
> 17 1
> 18 0
> 19 2
> 20 3
> 21 5
> 22 18
> 23 11
> 24 1009
> 25 1845
> 26 427
>
> --
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> devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
2:39 p.m.
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 11:56:20AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
I updated my system today and noticed that one of updated packages
was
"yum". Yes, that package manager tool we were supposed to obsolete with
switch to "dnf" few releases ago.
So I decided to remove it:
11:53 root@puchatek:~# LANGUAGE=C dnf remove yum
Dependencies resolved.
This list includes both packages that depend on yum and
packages that yum depends on (it seems you have autoremove enabled).
A better list is:
$ dnf repoquery --releasever=rawhide --alldeps --whatrequires yum --qf %{name} \
| grep -v '^yum'
anaconda-yum-plugins
bodhi-client
copr-frontend
createrepo
fedora-gooey-karma
fusioninventory-agent-yum-plugin
koji
mach
mash
mirrormanager
mock
nagios-plugins-check-updates
pulp-rpm-yumplugins
pungi
python-dnf-plugins-extras-migrate
python-imgcreate
rbm
repoview
rpmdepsize
snake
subscription-manager
system-config-kickstart
On this list koji, mock, bodhi-client are important, because they
force fedora packagers to have yum installed. Fedora infra packages
like mirrormanager, pungi would be nice to de-yum too.
The rest not so much I think, e.g. subscription-manager is replaced by
dnf-plugin-subscription-manager, createrepo by createrepo_c, etc.
Zbyszek
> ========================================================================
> Package Arch Version Repository
> Size
> ========================================================================
> Removing:
> bodhi-client noarch 0.9.12.2-5.fc25 @rawhide 27 k
> brewkoji noarch 1.8-1.fc17 @System 10 k
> createrepo noarch 0.10.3-10.fc25 @rawhide 301 k
> createrepo_c x86_64 0.10.0-5.fc25 @rawhide 150 k
> createrepo_c-libs x86_64 0.10.0-5.fc25 @rawhide 207 k
> drpm x86_64 0.3.0-3.fc25 @rawhide 142 k
> dumpet x86_64 2.1-12.fc24 @rawhide 38 k
> fedora-packager noarch 0.5.10.7-3.fc25 @rawhide 80 k
> fedpkg noarch 1.24-4.fc25 @rawhide 87 k
> koji noarch 1.10.1-11.fc25 @rawhide 1.1 M
> livecd-tools x86_64 1:23.3-2.fc25 @rawhide 147 k
> lorax x86_64 25.12-1.fc26 @rawhide 534 k
> lorax-templates-generic x86_64 25.12-1.fc26 @rawhide 111 k
> mock noarch 1.2.18-2.fc25 @rawhide 1.2 M
> packagedb-cli noarch 2.13-2.fc25 @rawhide 222 k
> pyrpkg noarch 1.46-2.fc25 @rawhide 434 k
> python-dockerfile-parse noarch 0.0.5-5.fc25 @rawhide 67 k
> python-imgcreate x86_64 1:23.3-2.fc25 @rawhide 282 k
> python-kickstart noarch 2.31-1.fc25 @rawhide 1.7 M
> python-ordered-set noarch 2.0.0-4.fc25 @rawhide 15 k
> python-osbs-client noarch 0.24-2.fc25 @rawhide 429 k
> python2-deltarpm x86_64 3.6-17.fc25 @rawhide 44 k
> python2-iniparse noarch 0.4-20.fc25 @rawhide 113 k
> python2-pygpgme x86_64 0.3-18.fc25 @rawhide 306 k
> python2-yubico noarch 1.3.2-3.fc25 @rawhide 244 k
> python3-beaker noarch 1.5.4-14.fc25 @rawhide 355 k
> python3-mako noarch 1.0.3-3.fc25 @rawhide 755 k
> pyusb noarch 1.0.0-2.fc25 @rawhide 405 k
> rhpkg noarch 1.18-2.fc20 @brew 125 k
> squashfs-tools x86_64 4.3-12.fc24 @rawhide 380 k
> system-config-keyboard noarch 1.4.0-10.fc25 @rawhide 40 k
> system-config-keyboard-base noarch 1.4.0-10.fc25 @rawhide 469 k
> yum noarch 3.4.3-510.fc25 @rawhide 5.6 M
> yum-langpacks noarch 0.4.5-3.fc24 @rawhide 66 k
> yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-510.fc25 @rawhide 334 k
>
> Transaction Summary
> ========================================================================
> Remove 35 Packages
>
> Installed size: 16 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: n
> Operation aborted.
>
>
> Are there plans to migrate tools/packages to stop depending on "yum" in
> Fedora 25-26 cycles?
> --
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> devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
3:50 p.m.
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:39:55 +0000
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl> wrote:
...snip...
So, all these have their own upstreams and their own progress on moving
to python3.
anaconda-yum-plugins
bodhi-client
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/637
copr-frontend
createrepo
Unlikely I suspect to move, instead things should/can move to
createrepo_c
fedora-gooey-karma
fusioninventory-agent-yum-plugin
koji
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024827
mach
Wonder what still pulls this in?
mash
mirrormanager
https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2/issues/139
mock
nagios-plugins-check-updates
pulp-rpm-yumplugins
pungi
python-dnf-plugins-extras-migrate
python-imgcreate
rbm
repoview
rpmdepsize
snake
subscription-manager
system-config-kickstart
On this list koji, mock, bodhi-client are important, because they
force fedora packagers to have yum installed. Fedora infra packages
like mirrormanager, pungi would be nice to de-yum too.
The rest not so much I think, e.g. subscription-manager is replaced by
dnf-plugin-subscription-manager, createrepo by createrepo_c, etc.
Yeah, I am sure help would be welcomed in many of these places...
kevin
9:09 p.m.
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:50:43PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:39:55 +0000
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl> wrote:
...snip...
So, all these have their own upstreams and their own progress on moving
to python3.
> anaconda-yum-plugins
> bodhi-client
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/637
> copr-frontend
> createrepo
Unlikely I suspect to move, instead things should/can move to
createrepo_c
> fedora-gooey-karma
> fusioninventory-agent-yum-plugin
> koji
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024827
Filed in 2013, the only answer
is "Porting to Py3 is on my radar, but
the work is complicated because we still need to support older RHEL
versions"
→ Does this mean that no porting will be done before RHEL7 is EOL?
> mach
Wonder what still pulls this in?
> mash
> mirrormanager
https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2/issues/139
"all of those deps
are all py3-ready now. All that is left is to port MM2 itself." (January 2016)
So this one looks pretty good, even if there is no recent progress.
I filed https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2/pull/185 to
get things going.
> mock
> nagios-plugins-check-updates
> pulp-rpm-yumplugins
> pungi
> python-dnf-plugins-extras-migrate
> python-imgcreate
> rbm
> repoview
> rpmdepsize
> snake
> subscription-manager
> system-config-kickstart
>
> On this list koji, mock, bodhi-client are important, because they
> force fedora packagers to have yum installed. Fedora infra packages
> like mirrormanager, pungi would be nice to de-yum too.
> The rest not so much I think, e.g. subscription-manager is replaced by
> dnf-plugin-subscription-manager, createrepo by createrepo_c, etc.
Yeah, I am sure help would be welcomed in many of these places...
Zbyszek
4:01 a.m.
There is also a bug tracker, that shold provide additional information on switch from YUM
to DNF
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1156491
Jaroslav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl>
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
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Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 4:09:17 AM
Subject: Re: Long live YUM!
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:50:43PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:39:55 +0000
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl> wrote:
...snip...
So, all these have their own upstreams and their own progress on moving
to python3.
> anaconda-yum-plugins
> bodhi-client
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/637
> copr-frontend
> createrepo
Unlikely I suspect to move, instead things should/can move to
createrepo_c
> fedora-gooey-karma
> fusioninventory-agent-yum-plugin
> koji
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024827
Filed in 2013, the only answer
is "Porting to Py3 is on my radar, but
the work is complicated because we still need to support older RHEL
versions"
→ Does this mean that no porting will be done before RHEL7 is EOL?
> mach
Wonder what still pulls this in?
> mash
> mirrormanager
https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2/issues/139
"all of those deps
are all py3-ready now. All that is left is to port MM2 itself." (January 2016)
So this one looks pretty good, even if there is no recent progress.
I filed https://github.com/fedora-infra/mirrormanager2/pull/185 to
get things going.
> mock
> nagios-plugins-check-updates
> pulp-rpm-yumplugins
> pungi
> python-dnf-plugins-extras-migrate
> python-imgcreate
> rbm
> repoview
> rpmdepsize
> snake
> subscription-manager
> system-config-kickstart
>
> On this list koji, mock, bodhi-client are important, because they
> force fedora packagers to have yum installed. Fedora infra packages
> like mirrormanager, pungi would be nice to de-yum too.
> The rest not so much I think, e.g. subscription-manager is replaced by
> dnf-plugin-subscription-manager, createrepo by createrepo_c, etc.
Yeah, I am sure help would be welcomed in many of these places...
Zbyszek
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