Go Fedora/PPC ....
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/19/fedora-linux-up-and-running-on-playstatio...
Not officially supported yet but we should have a build of FC6+updates to install on it some time soon just as we did FC4+updates for the Pegasos II, and of course we intend FC7 to support it out of the box.
There are other new PowerPC machines in the works too. Who needs Apple? :)
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 09:24 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
Go Fedora/PPC ....
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/19/fedora-linux-up-and-running-on-playstatio...
Not officially supported yet but we should have a build of FC6+updates to install on it some time soon just as we did FC4+updates for the Pegasos II, and of course we intend FC7 to support it out of the box.
There are other new PowerPC machines in the works too. Who needs Apple? :)
I know this is not really fedora related, but I thought the PS4 used the cell processor, not a PowerPC processor, and that the cell processors were dramatically different to the PPC.
What gives?
R.
Hi.
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:21:15 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
I know this is not really fedora related, but I thought the PS4 used the cell processor, not a PowerPC processor, and that the cell processors were dramatically different to the PPC.
A Cell processor consists of a main processor (which is PPC) and a number of simple subprocessors, which can be assigned tasks by the main processor. The subprocessors are not PPC, as far as I know. The PS3 has 8 subprocessors, but this number can vary.
On 11/20/06, Rodd Clarkson rodd@clarkson.id.au wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 09:24 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
Go Fedora/PPC ....
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/19/fedora-linux-up-and-running-on-playstatio...
Not officially supported yet but we should have a build of FC6+updates to install on it some time soon just as we did FC4+updates for the Pegasos II, and of course we intend FC7 to support it out of the box.
There are other new PowerPC machines in the works too. Who needs Apple? :)
I know this is not really fedora related, but I thought the PS4 used the cell processor, not a PowerPC processor, and that the cell processors were dramatically different to the PPC.
What gives?
It does use a Cell processor, which is a variant of the PowerPC processor. The Cell was developed by IBM for Sony. IBM are now shipping Cell processors in Blades and already support Linux on those blades. Some details here http://www.itjungle.com/tlb/tlb091906-story02.html
This will be interesting to see, the XBox 360 also runs on a variant of the PowerPC processor from a similar base to that of the Cell processor, and the Wii also sports some other variant of the PowerPC processor too.
Peter
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 21:21 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
I know this is not really fedora related, but I thought the PS4 used the cell processor, not a PowerPC processor, and that the cell processors were dramatically different to the PPC.
What gives?
Cell is PowerPC with extra processing units. For more details, see Google or http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/cell-1.ars
Fedora has supported the Cell processor since Fedora Core 5 -- I believe that Fedora is still the only OS which IBM ships on their Cell blades.
Forgive my ignorance, but will this actually allow a linux game to take full advantage of the graphical capabilities of the PS3? Or are there restrictions preventing this?
Keith.
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 13:02 +0000, Keith G wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but will this actually allow a linux game to take full advantage of the graphical capabilities of the PS3? Or are there restrictions preventing this?
Unfortunately it doesn't -- the Linux video support is currently just a linear framebuffer. Hopefully Sony will get a clue and open it up a little more some time soon.
We may well find a way to abuse the SPUs to do acceleration in the meantime :)
On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 01:41:13PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 13:02 +0000, Keith G wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but will this actually allow a linux game to take full advantage of the graphical capabilities of the PS3? Or are there restrictions preventing this?
Unfortunately it doesn't -- the Linux video support is currently just a linear framebuffer. Hopefully Sony will get a clue and open it up a little more some time soon.
We may well find a way to abuse the SPUs to do acceleration in the meantime :)
FYI, spu-*-elf GCC port has been recently submitted for inclusion in GCC 4.3 (though, it hasn't been committed yet).
Jakub
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 08:50 -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
FYI, spu-*-elf GCC port has been recently submitted for inclusion in GCC 4.3 (though, it hasn't been committed yet).
Yep, that (or an older version) should turn up in Extras some time soon. I'd have submitted it myself but I couldn't be any better than a package-monkey for it, and Fedora needs package _maintainers_ not package-monkeys.
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