our manual un-orphaning process

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

Hi,

the manual un-orphaning process with rel-eng tickets is wasting
maintainer and rel-eng time and is very noisy (e.g. if more than one
person requests the package at the same time). With the upcoming
inevitable mass orphaning because of FTBFS and security bugs, the
this is going to be quite painful.

Is there any hope to automatize this? Allowing this to be done
through pagure would be great. I know this has been discussed before,
but I can't find any open issue.

Alternatively, we could extend fedpkg with something like
'fedpkg take-over-package' that would automatically open a releng
ticket allowing for semi-automatic processing by rel-eng.

What's the situation here?

Zbyszek

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 09/08/2018 02:27 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  the manual un-orphaning process with rel-eng tickets is wasting
>  maintainer and rel-eng time and is very noisy (e.g. if more than one
>  person requests the package at the same time). With the upcoming
>  inevitable mass orphaning because of FTBFS and security bugs, the
>  this is going to be quite painful.
>  
>  Is there any hope to automatize this? Allowing this to be done
>  through pagure would be great. I know this has been discussed before,
>  but I can't find any open issue.
>  
>  Alternatively, we could extend fedpkg with something like
>  'fedpkg take-over-package' that would automatically open a releng
>  ticket allowing for semi-automatic processing by rel-eng.
>  
>  What's the situation here? 
I'd love to see src.fedoraproject.org just allow a 'take point of
contact' button for logged in packager group users. Of course it would
have to know retired vs just orphaned. I'm not sure how practical this
would be, but we can see what Pingou says.

I don't see any reason for more red-tape on taking orphans...

kevin

[Miro Hrončok]

On 9.9.2018 22:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>  On 09/08/2018 02:27 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the manual un-orphaning process with rel-eng tickets is wasting
> > maintainer and rel-eng time and is very noisy (e.g. if more than one
> > person requests the package at the same time). With the upcoming
> > inevitable mass orphaning because of FTBFS and security bugs, the
> > this is going to be quite painful.
> >
> > Is there any hope to automatize this? Allowing this to be done
> > through pagure would be great. I know this has been discussed before,
> > but I can't find any open issue.
> >
> > Alternatively, we could extend fedpkg with something like
> > 'fedpkg take-over-package' that would automatically open a releng
> > ticket allowing for semi-automatic processing by rel-eng.
> >
> > What's the situation here?
>  
>  I'd love to see src.fedoraproject.org just allow a 'take point of
>  contact' button for logged in packager group users. 
It would also be nice if after a non-responsive packager policy, releng 
could mark an user as "orphan-like", so their packages would immediately 
become click-claimable as well.

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[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 10:31:17PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>  On 9.9.2018 22:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>  >On 09/08/2018 02:27 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>  >>Hi,
>  >>
>  >>the manual un-orphaning process with rel-eng tickets is wasting
>  >>maintainer and rel-eng time and is very noisy (e.g. if more than one
>  >>person requests the package at the same time). With the upcoming
>  >>inevitable mass orphaning because of FTBFS and security bugs, the
>  >>this is going to be quite painful.
>  >>
>  >>Is there any hope to automatize this? Allowing this to be done
>  >>through pagure would be great. I know this has been discussed before,
>  >>but I can't find any open issue.
>  >>
>  >>Alternatively, we could extend fedpkg with something like
>  >>'fedpkg take-over-package' that would automatically open a releng
>  >>ticket allowing for semi-automatic processing by rel-eng.
>  >>
>  >>What's the situation here?
>  >
>  >I'd love to see src.fedoraproject.org just allow a 'take point of
>  >contact' button for logged in packager group users.
>  
>  It would also be nice if after a non-responsive packager policy,
>  releng could mark an user as "orphan-like", so their packages would
>  immediately become click-claimable as well. 
I don't think this additional state would be needed. Nothing should
happen before the nonresponsive-maintainer ticket is approved, and
after that, the p-o-c should just be given to orphan, and the 'take p-o-c'
button should become active. I don't think we need anything except
those two states.

Zbyszek