First date

[Behdad Esfahbod]

Hi all,

So here comes my impressions on my first date with this Core
thing:

* I decided not to install all packages, then I found that I
cannot select individual ones.  So I tried adding packages from
the add/remove program.  Then I selected my packages, and tried
to install them, when found that:
    a) /dev/cdrom is pointed to /dev/hdc, this used to work
on previous Red Hats, but this time I had to calibrate it to
point to /dev/scd0.
    b) Even after that, the add/remove program cannot find
the CD there, and keeps asking for CD.  When I mount the CD, and
press Ok in the dialog, I find it unmounted..
    c) I even couldn't copy/paste the list of selected
packages, so I wrote them down by hand, to feed them to up2date.

* Then I proceeded with up2date, to install some new packages.
Then I got the following weird error.  Someone let me know if I'm
getting faked packages?

Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
########################################
apel-10.6-1.noarch.rpm:     ########################## Done.
The package apel-10.6-1 is not signed with a GPG signature.
Aborting...
Package apel-10.6-1 does not have a GPG signature.
 Aborting...

* Bitstream-vera fonts are installed, but are not default.  It
was really hard to read the other fonts, after two months with
vera fonts from Ximian.  I took me a while to findout that they
are installed, and are available under name Bitstream Vera, not
Vera.

* Many many places here and there, there are still Red Hat's,
that should be replaced by Fedora equivalents.  One funny example
is the Login Screen chooser which has the thumbnail from Red Hat 9.

* Cool thing, DRI works!

* Nothing more yet.

behdad

[Tammy Fox]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:34:37PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So here comes my impressions on my first date with this Core
> thing:
> I decided not to install all packages, then I found that I
>
> cannot select individual ones.  So I tried adding packages from
> the add/remove program.  Then I selected my packages, and tried
> to install them, when found that:

I was able to select individual packages during installation by
clicking the Details button.
> a) /dev/cdrom is pointed to /dev/hdc, this used to work
> on previous Red Hats, but this time I had to calibrate it to
> point to /dev/scd0.
>    b) Even after that, the add/remove program cannot find
> the CD there, and keeps asking for CD.  When I mount the CD, and
> press Ok in the dialog, I find it unmounted..

I ran into the same problem, so I filed bug #105947.
> c) I even couldn't copy/paste the list of selected
> packages, so I wrote them down by hand, to feed them to up2date.
> Then I proceeded with up2date, to install some new packages.
>
> Then I got the following weird error.  Someone let me know if I'm
> getting faked packages?
>
> Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
> ########################################
> apel-10.6-1.noarch.rpm:     ########################## Done.
> The package apel-10.6-1 is not signed with a GPG signature.
> Aborting...
> Package apel-10.6-1 does not have a GPG signature.
>  Aborting...
> Bitstream-vera fonts are installed, but are not default.  It
>
> was really hard to read the other fonts, after two months with
> vera fonts from Ximian.  I took me a while to findout that they
> are installed, and are available under name Bitstream Vera, not
> Vera.
> Many many places here and there, there are still Red Hat's,
>
> that should be replaced by Fedora equivalents.  One funny example
> is the Login Screen chooser which has the thumbnail from Red Hat 9.
>
> Cool thing, DRI works!
>
> Nothing more yet.
>
> behdad
>
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> [e-mail]
> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

[Rodrigo Del C. Andrade]

There a details button??! Hell, if it were a poisonous snake I would be 
suffering right now....

Van

Tammy Fox wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:34:37PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So here comes my impressions on my first date with this Core
> > thing:
> > I decided not to install all packages, then I found that I
> >
> > cannot select individual ones.  So I tried adding packages from
> > the add/remove program.  Then I selected my packages, and tried
> > to install them, when found that:
>
> I was able to select individual packages during installation by
> clicking the Details button.
> > a) /dev/cdrom is pointed to /dev/hdc, this used to work
> > on previous Red Hats, but this time I had to calibrate it to
> > point to /dev/scd0.
> >    b) Even after that, the add/remove program cannot find
> > the CD there, and keeps asking for CD.  When I mount the CD, and
> > press Ok in the dialog, I find it unmounted..
>
> I ran into the same problem, so I filed bug #105947.
> > c) I even couldn't copy/paste the list of selected
> > packages, so I wrote them down by hand, to feed them to up2date.
> > Then I proceeded with up2date, to install some new packages.
> >
> > Then I got the following weird error.  Someone let me know if I'm
> > getting faked packages?
> >
> > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
> > ########################################
> > apel-10.6-1.noarch.rpm:     ########################## Done.
> > The package apel-10.6-1 is not signed with a GPG signature.
> > Aborting...
> > Package apel-10.6-1 does not have a GPG signature.
> > Aborting...
> > Bitstream-vera fonts are installed, but are not default.  It
> >
> > was really hard to read the other fonts, after two months with
> > vera fonts from Ximian.  I took me a while to findout that they
> > are installed, and are available under name Bitstream Vera, not
> > Vera.
> > Many many places here and there, there are still Red Hat's,
> >
> > that should be replaced by Fedora equivalents.  One funny example
> > is the Login Screen chooser which has the thumbnail from Red Hat 9.
> >
> > Cool thing, DRI works!
> >
> > Nothing more yet.
> >
> > behdad
> >
> > --
> > fedora-devel-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
>
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> [e-mail]
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[Behdad Esfahbod]

It seems that I've deleted Tammy's mail.
To Tammy:  I'm not talking about the Details button, but
individual RPM packages.  During installation it was talking
about selecting individual packages is back in next release.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Rodrigo Del C. Andrade wrote:
> There a details button??! Hell, if it were a poisonous snake I would be
> suffering right now....
>
> Van
>
> Tammy Fox wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:34:37PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > So here comes my impressions on my first date with this Core
> > > thing:
> > > I decided not to install all packages, then I found that I
> > >
> > > cannot select individual ones.  So I tried adding packages from
> > > the add/remove program.  Then I selected my packages, and tried
> > > to install them, when found that:
> >
> > I was able to select individual packages during installation by
> > clicking the Details button.
> > > a) /dev/cdrom is pointed to /dev/hdc, this used to work
> > > on previous Red Hats, but this time I had to calibrate it to
> > > point to /dev/scd0.
> > >    b) Even after that, the add/remove program cannot find
> > > the CD there, and keeps asking for CD.  When I mount the CD, and
> > > press Ok in the dialog, I find it unmounted..
> >
> > I ran into the same problem, so I filed bug #105947.
> > > c) I even couldn't copy/paste the list of selected
> > > packages, so I wrote them down by hand, to feed them to up2date.
> > > Then I proceeded with up2date, to install some new packages.
> > >
> > > Then I got the following weird error.  Someone let me know if I'm
> > > getting faked packages?
> > >
> > > Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies...
> > > ########################################
> > > apel-10.6-1.noarch.rpm:     ########################## Done.
> > > The package apel-10.6-1 is not signed with a GPG signature.
> > > Aborting...
> > > Package apel-10.6-1 does not have a GPG signature.
> > > Aborting...
> > > Bitstream-vera fonts are installed, but are not default.  It
> > >
> > > was really hard to read the other fonts, after two months with
> > > vera fonts from Ximian.  I took me a while to findout that they
> > > are installed, and are available under name Bitstream Vera, not
> > > Vera.
> > > Many many places here and there, there are still Red Hat's,
> > >
> > > that should be replaced by Fedora equivalents.  One funny example
> > > is the Login Screen chooser which has the thumbnail from Red Hat 9.
> > >
> > > Cool thing, DRI works!
> > >
> > > Nothing more yet.
> > >
> > > behdad
> > >
> > > --
> > > fedora-devel-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
> >
> > --
> > fedora-devel-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
>
> --
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[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le mar 30/09/2003 à 06:45, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> It seems that I've deleted Tammy's mail.
> To Tammy:  I'm not talking about the Details button, but
> individual RPM packages.  During installation it was talking
> about selecting individual packages is back in next release.

+1 to this.
That's really the best way to prepare a kickstart - doing all the
selection work post-install is painful.

Cheers,

[Paul Nasrat]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:42:20AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le mar 30/09/2003 à 06:45, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> > individual RPM packages.  During installation it was talking
> > about selecting individual packages is back in next release.
> +1 to this.
> That's really the best way to prepare a kickstart - doing all the
> selection work post-install is painful.

Actually I was thinking could redhat-config-packages be modified into a
comps editor for anaconda customisation, else something simple with
python and rhlp.comps.  I guess it could also be used
for kickstart generation, though I thought there was
redhat-config-kickstart.

Paul

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le mar 30/09/2003 à 09:50, Paul Nasrat a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:42:20AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le mar 30/09/2003 à 06:45, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> > > individual RPM packages.  During installation it was talking
> > > about selecting individual packages is back in next release.
> > +1 to this.
> > That's really the best way to prepare a kickstart - doing all the
> > selection work post-install is painful.
>
> Actually I was thinking could redhat-config-packages be modified into a
> comps editor for anaconda customisation, else something simple with
> python and rhlp.comps.  I guess it could also be used
> for kickstart generation, though I thought there was
> redhat-config-kickstart.

There is but it's so much easier to fine-comb packages at first install
time and use the generated file as kickstart template than do a default
install to get the redhat-config-kickstart that knows about your RH
version.

(the only pain is changing cds but an nfs+isos server can take care of
it)

Cheers,