Eclipse and Fedora 31

[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

Dear Eclipse users,
Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond
us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora
land both technical and political.
Until this is fixed, you're strongly recommended to try using Eclipse from
Flathub [1]. It should provide you with similar system level integration as
the RPMs and is maintained by the very same people who do the Fedora RPMs.
In case of issues don't hesitate to contact me or Mat Booth but ideally
open issues at [2] .

[1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.eclipse.Java
[2] https://github.com/flathub/org.eclipse.Java

-- 
Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse Team

[Miro Hrončok]

On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>  Dear Eclipse users,
>  Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us 
>  (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both 
>  technical and political. 
There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the 
technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved.

You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on opinion. 
We don't. We simply block this based on:

  - lack of full specified request from your side
  - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream

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Miro Hrončok
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[Aleksandar Kurtakov]

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>  > Dear Eclipse users,
>  > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is
>  beyond us
>  > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora
>  land both
>  > technical and political.
>
>  There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the
>  technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved.
>
>  You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on
>  opinion.
>  We don't. We simply block this based on:
>
>    - lack of full specified request from your side
>    - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream
>  
I am not suggesting anyone trying to block based on opinion.
Let's agree that one's technical issue is someone else's political issue
(we faced this in Eclipse SWT when had to drop Gtk 2.x support - we had a
number of very good technical reasons to do that but for many of our users
it was a political decision to do so) and there is not much one can do to
change that as it requires to get to the same level of deep involvement in
the issue.
IMHO with modularity in Fedora we are facing similar case which would
better be resolved really soon and clearer guidelines and recommendations
are given to people that just want to ship their software on/for Fedora.
And I wish best of luck to everyone involved in it to achieve that soon.


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Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse Team

[Miro Hrončok]

On 18. 11. 19 21:47, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>  
>  
>  On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok(a)redhat.com 
>  <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>  
>      On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>       > Dear Eclipse users,
>       > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is
>      beyond us
>       > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora
>      land both
>       > technical and political.
>  
>      There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the
>      technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved.
>  
>      You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on
>      opinion.
>      We don't. We simply block this based on:
>  
>         - lack of full specified request from your side
>         - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream
>  
>  
>  I am not suggesting anyone trying to block based on opinion. 
In that case I was reading your e-mail wrong and I apologize.

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Miro Hrončok
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