Another modular X11 report

[Bojan Smojver]

The switch to modular X on my notebook (HP ZE4201, hardware specs here: 
http://www.rexursive.com/articles/linuxonhpze4201.html) was a success, 
with a few minor details going wrong. This is what I checked:

- DRI works
- switching between X and text consoles works
- suspend/resume (with suspend2 patched 2.6.14-1.1674_FC5 kernel) works

This is what needs slight attention:

- synaptics module is in the wrong place (probably just needs a 
rebuild); symlinking the module from the old location to the new works 
around the problem
- as reported by the build system, openmotif is missing deps, which 
breaks Xpdf and third party software like Citrix ICA; I guess this will 
be rebuilt and fixed

Overall, top marks to people delivering modular X11!

-- 
Bojan

[Pekka Pietikäinen]

And yet another report. Near-total failure :-(

startx doesn't work, I hit https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5068

gdm starts up nicely (-nolisten tcp is a workaround for the bug),
but logins don't work, "gdm-binary[3141]:
Couldn't authenticate user" in the logs. Some pam-stack complaints too.
Haven't had the timen to fully debug that, maybe tomorrow...

startx -- -nolisten tcp gets things up and running, fortunately.

And some XKB errors after X is up.

Otherwise it's happy! For such a major change, not bad at all! :D

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Pekka Pietikainen

[Pekka Pietikäinen]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 01:14:07AM +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote:
>  And yet another report. Near-total failure :-(
>  
>  startx doesn't work, I hit https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5068
>  
>  gdm starts up nicely (-nolisten tcp is a workaround for the bug),
>  but logins don't work, "gdm-binary[3141]:
>  Couldn't authenticate user" in the logs. Some pam-stack complaints too.
>  Haven't had the timen to fully debug that, maybe tomorrow... 
rpm -Uvh --force
gdm-2.8.0.4-12.x86_64.rpm cleared things up. *shrug*

>  And some XKB errors after X is up. 
This was probably since I
redid my xorg.conf, and it had us instead of fi
keyboard mapping afterwards. system-config-keyboard, select fi, and
everything was happy again.

So, only https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5068 left as a real
bug, everything else was just package upgrade hiccups. And since all bugs
have been filed, I can just happily go to sleep. Good night y'all!  

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Pekka Pietikainen

[Bojan Smojver]

Quoting Pekka Pietikainen <pp(a)ee.oulu.fi&gt;:


> > Haven't had the timen to fully debug that, maybe tomorrow...
>  rpm -Uvh --force gdm-2.8.0.4-12.x86_64.rpm cleared things up. *shrug* 
Actually, even if you upgrade gdm but keep gdm.conf file from the old 
install (e.g. new gdm installs gdm.conf.rpmnew instaed), you'll have a 
problem. I think it is a must to use the new configuration for gdm as 
well, as the old stuff does not work at all.

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Bojan

[Mike A. Harris]

Pekka Pietikainen wrote:
>  And yet another report. Near-total failure :-(
>  
>  startx doesn't work, I hit https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5068 
I've CC'd myself on that one to keep an eye on it.

>  gdm starts up nicely (-nolisten tcp is a workaround for the bug),
>  but logins don't work, "gdm-binary[3141]:
>  Couldn't authenticate user" in the logs. Some pam-stack complaints too.
>  Haven't had the timen to fully debug that, maybe tomorrow... 
Hmm, that could be due to recent pam changes.  gdm might need to update
it's pam config files.  I think xdm needs to have them updated too.

>  startx -- -nolisten tcp gets things up and running, fortunately.
Cool.

>  And some XKB errors after X is up. 
What are the errors?

>  Otherwise it's happy! For such a major change, not bad at all! :D
Good to hear!  With any major change like this, I usually get fairly
paranoid as the "goes into rawhide" date approaches, as there are
always a million possible problems that can occur, and it's hard to
predict all of the possiblities.  We've hit some issues already, but
so far things seem to be going remarkably smooth, which surprises
me.  I'm biting my nails wondering "when is the big surprise
coming?".  ;o)

[Mike A. Harris]

Bojan Smojver wrote:
>  The switch to modular X on my notebook (HP ZE4201, hardware specs
> here: 
>  http://www.rexursive.com/articles/linuxonhpze4201.html) was a success, 
>  with a few minor details going wrong. This is what I checked:
>  
>  - DRI works
>  - switching between X and text consoles works
>  - suspend/resume (with suspend2 patched 2.6.14-1.1674_FC5 kernel) works
>  
>  This is what needs slight attention:
>  
>  - synaptics module is in the wrong place (probably just needs a 
>  rebuild); symlinking the module from the old location to the new works 
>  around the problem 
Upgrade to the latest synaptics driver, and if the problem is still
there, please file a bug report against "synaptics".  The rpm should
be changed to use pkg-config to query where the X server's module
directory is, and then install into %{moduledir}/input.

>  - as reported by the build system, openmotif is missing deps, which 
>  breaks Xpdf and third party software like Citrix ICA; I guess this will 
>  be rebuilt and fixed 
Yep, openmotif needs some love. ;o)

>  Overall, top marks to people delivering modular X11! 
Thanks, much appreciated.

[Bojan Smojver]

Quoting "Mike A. Harris" <mharris(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  Upgrade to the latest synaptics driver, and if the problem is still
>  there, please file a bug report against "synaptics". 
The latest synaptics driver in Rawhide, version 0.14.4-1 is the one 
with the wrong paths. I'm guessing another version is going to hit 
Rawhide tomorrow and I should check that. Right?

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Bojan

[Bojan Smojver]

Quoting "Mike A. Harris" <mharris(a)redhat.com&gt;:

>  please file a bug report against "synaptics". 
Too late, somebody already did:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=172576

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Bojan