Hi,
I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology.
I feel like some good people where caught in the crossfire who were never intended to be with my words. I do not believe it to be true nor was it intended to be taken as "all Linux distros and their software maintainers are evil". I understand that, if nothing else, Fedora and others takes the route it does in order to be safe rather than sorry. That doesn't mean I agree with it, but it should never be confused with malicious intentions either, which I may very well have given off I was accusing innocent people of. There are no doubt many in the Fedora project that try to make right for everyone whenever and however possible, sometimes going above and beyond to do so. Those people deserve praise and compliments, not criticism or negativity thrown in their direction.
I'm very sorry to all those people.
I should take the time to say that, despite what some may think, I don't hate Fedora. I guess for those that don't know how nerdy I am for Fedora Silverblue, it would be easy to get the idea that I somehow hate everything Fedora does. This isn't remotely the case. I've been poking Fedora Silverblue every beta release trying to see if it's ready to take Arch Linux's spot when it goes south, and while it and the number of Flatpaks have improved and are still improving, they and Fedora aren't ready for me personally. If I was to recommend someone else who had less strict requirements(nvidia/rolling/software availability) a Linux distro though, Fedora Silverblue would probably be it.
I should also be clear here that I'm not, in shape or form anyway, apologizing to anyone who actually believes that which amounts to "Open Source projects are nothing without Linux distros and their packagers". I do not feel like I owe anyone who thinks or claims such anything.
Again, very sorry.
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology.
Hi Ty. Thank you for this. When we're passionate about something, it's easy to get frustrated and upset, and easy for that to get out of hand. It's much harder to step back and consider, and I appreciate you doing so!
Thanks for your passion, and let's continue to figure out how to solve these often frustrating challenges together.
On 5/20/20 9:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology.
Hi Ty. Thank you for this. When we're passionate about something, it's easy to get frustrated and upset, and easy for that to get out of hand. It's much harder to step back and consider, and I appreciate you doing so!
Thanks for your passion, and let's continue to figure out how to solve these often frustrating challenges together.
I would love to, but while you may claim to wish it, some within Fedora and Gnome do not. They instead choose to be unproductive, narcissistic grifters & crying wolves who belittle innocent independent niche software developers and large companies that cannot or will not comply with their ideology.
The behavior by some on this list is very reminiscent of people on social media that falsely accuse others of sexual misconduct and later attempt to ruin their lives just because they have a vendetta. They do not care about the actual issue itself, whatever that may be, but rather they pretend to in order to increase their own power and influence. For projects(Gnome & Fedora) to have such people part of them, it is very frightening but, based on the Code of Conduct that each project has, not entirely unexpected.
I'd ask that, unless Fedora is honestly interested in resolving such issues such as Gradle or my own project, that you never offer it. I know this was probably said in order to come off as nice, but whether it was meant to or not, it is in part a lie.
Anyway, I didn't mean to start all of it again. Hopefully it can be ended here.
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