I've committed code to pungi that will prevent boot.iso from being on CD1 and the DVD. I've had various discussions with folks about this in the past, and given that boot.iso is 122M on x86_64 that's a lot of packages we could have instead. In the past, boot.iso was much smaller and it wasn't a big cost, things have changed.
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:01 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
This change will be post-alpha.
Jesse Keating wrote:
I've committed code to pungi that will prevent boot.iso from being on CD1 and the DVD. I've had various discussions with folks about this in the past, and given that boot.iso is 122M on x86_64 that's a lot of packages we could have instead. In the past, boot.iso was much smaller and it wasn't a big cost, things have changed.
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
Have we relaxed the checks that make the installer bail out if your boot.iso doesn't precisely match what's in your repo? If not, decoupling them in the downloads will create a lot of pain for a lot of people.
-- Chris
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 00:24 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
Have we relaxed the checks that make the installer bail out if your boot.iso doesn't precisely match what's in your repo? If not, decoupling them in the downloads will create a lot of pain for a lot of people.
Yes, a while ago now.
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 00:24 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
Have we relaxed the checks that make the installer bail out if your boot.iso doesn't precisely match what's in your repo? If not, decoupling them in the downloads will create a lot of pain for a lot of people.
Yes, a while ago now.
In that case, I have no objection. In the interest of convenience, it might be nice to put them on a separate rescue CD (making yet more room on the install set) since there tends to be an overlap between the sorts of people who use boot.iso and the sorts of people who use the rescue environment.
-- Chris
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 00:27 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
In that case, I have no objection. In the interest of convenience, it might be nice to put them on a separate rescue CD (making yet more room on the install set) since there tends to be an overlap between the sorts of people who use boot.iso and the sorts of people who use the rescue environment.
boot.iso has been capable of running the rescue environment since F9 I do believe. That's when it grew. There is no longer an iso that is just kernel/initrd (stage1), all the isos we generate have both kernel/initrd (stage1) and install.img (stage2).
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:01:11PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
I've committed code to pungi that will prevent boot.iso from being on CD1 and the DVD. I've had various discussions with folks about this in the past, and given that boot.iso is 122M on x86_64 that's a lot of packages we could have instead. In the past, boot.iso was much smaller and it wasn't a big cost, things have changed.
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
We still have the kernel+initrd for pxeboot on the CD1/DVD, right ? If so, then killing boot.iso from the CD1/DVD image shouldn't any problem for the virt provisioning tools POV.
Regards, Daniel
On Thursday, January 29 2009, Daniel P. Berrange said:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 09:01:11PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
I've committed code to pungi that will prevent boot.iso from being on CD1 and the DVD. I've had various discussions with folks about this in the past, and given that boot.iso is 122M on x86_64 that's a lot of packages we could have instead. In the past, boot.iso was much smaller and it wasn't a big cost, things have changed.
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
We still have the kernel+initrd for pxeboot on the CD1/DVD, right ? If so, then killing boot.iso from the CD1/DVD image shouldn't any problem for the virt provisioning tools POV.
Yep, we have to have one copy of them for isolinux to boot the install and then just hardlink them out to all the other locations on the disc that people semi-expect to find them.
Jeremy
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:01 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
If anybody has a really good reason for why we should continue to put boot.iso on the media, speak now.
Really, the only use case left is people without functioning DVD drives and little or no Internet access that accidentally download the DVD or get it from someone/somewhere else. Everyone else already either has the appropriate media, or can download the net install image.
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