On Mon, Aug 15, 2016, at 11:59 PM, Rafal Luzynski wrote:
13.08.2016 21:53 Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
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>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Rafal Luzynski
> <digitalfreak(a)lingonborough.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > 1. We should have issued a "ticket" system for the buses
> > to the Browar Lubicz party. We ordered two cruises of one
> > bus for two reasons: first, 250 people were not supposed
> > to fit into one bus, second, the minimum order of a bus
> > is large enough to make 2 or maybe even 3 cruises.
> > It turned out that the second cruise took only 7 passengers
>
> Are those numbers representative of the buses on the way to the
> brewery, or on the way back to the hotel?
To the brewery. The way back went smoothly and even better
than anyone of us expected. There were 3 bus cruises, each able
to take 110 people and my estimate is that there were only
40-60 people in each cruise.
Another observation here is that people tend not to come
back to the hotel after an organized event but instead
decide to have more fun in the city downtown and then come
back later on their own.
This is probably dependent on the city. For example, in Rochester had
there been transportation, I think most people would have returned to
the hotel as the area around the hotel was more inviting than the area
around the evening venues, iirc.
> > while the first one was full. One bus should take about
> > 160 passengers. Unfortunately, there is no system which
> > stops more passengers to enter the bus. According to what
> > we nicknamed Student's theorem during my university years,
> > every bus can take one more student. :-) I guess we managed
> > to fit 240 people into the bus. Alternative explanation
> > is that there were only 170 people at the party. There
>
> I'm fairly confident we did not have 240 attendees at Flock in
> general. 170 people sounds much closer to the overall attendance
> number that we estimated after the first two days of registrations.
Again this leads to the statement that we should have better taken
the largest ship available in Krakow which takes 200 passengers
and organize a full cruise evening like in Prague 2014.
This decision was based on registration. We had a lot of no-shows this
year.
> > 3. The last official conference event was the wallpaper
> > hunt, attended by 8 people only. We took a long walk
> > to the tram balloon loop and now I think it was an
> > unnecessary waste of time. It would be better to spend
> > one more PLN and take a bus from the hotel to the tram
> > stop. Also it would be better if one person collected
> > the money and bought tickets for everyone instead of making
> > a queue and letting everyone to buy tickets for oneself.
> > The system I proposed would be good if we were a group
> > of 10-20 people and bought one group ticket. OTOH I hope
> > the attendees enjoyed the tram ride.
>
> This was not an official conference event. It was a workshop. It was
> supposed to be self-organized by the people interested in attending.
> I'm not sure who or how people thought it was equivalent to an
> official event, but it was definitely not supposed to be.
Thanks for correcting, probably "event" is not a correct
word here. Still I think there were better solutions for
the transport. The group was small and even taking the taxi
cabs would be reasonable.
While at this, I'd like also to add that even organizing Flock
immediately after World Youth Days turned out to be not as
crazy idea as we originally thought. WYD estimates were higher
than the reality, although the city center was crowded the
outskirts were not, the security means were raised to a paranoid
level and I hope that Flock attendees only profitted from them
rather than suffered, and Krakow, although always having some
cosmopolitan flavour, this time shown its unusually global face.
Thank you again for all of your help in taming this locally!
regards,
bex
>
> Regards,
>
> Rafal
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