Fwd: FUDCon coming this summer/fall? - flock-planning - Fedora mailing-lists

4 May 2013


      Hi,
think that mail is from interest here.
@spot when you think sponsorship request will be open? You know flight are
at the lowest price between 8 and 6 weeks before the event. So its really
from interest for us europeans.
br gnokii
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From: Christoph Wickert christoph.wickert@gmail.com
Date: 2013/5/3
Subject: Re: FUDCon coming this summer/fall?
To: fudcon-planning@lists.fedoraproject.org
Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 10:23 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson:
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wickert@gmail.com wrote:
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Am Mittwoch, den 17.04.2013, 11:26 -0400 schrieb Tom Callaway:
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On 04/17/2013 08:52 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
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I definitely like the idea of the one big event and being at the
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what budget do you expect? Speaking both about community guys (I can
expect
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the money that would be used for FUDCon EMEA could be used as travel
budget) and
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also internal people from Europe, we usually don't pay from Fedora
budget but
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we need a coverage. As far as I know, there's no budget allocated
and it will
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be really hard to get such.
There is a large chunk of OSAS budget allocated for this event, and our
plan is to try to fund as much travel/lodging for attendees as we
possibly can. Getting people together for this event is our main
priority. Including internal people. :)
Lets do some simple math here:
FUDCon EMEA attendees: ~100, around 70 of them need lodging.
Cheapest flights to Charleston from anywhere in Europe: USD 13,000.
Even if only half of the EMEA community members who typically attend a
FUDCon will go to FLOCK, it would cost us USD 45,000. And that's ony for
flights, no other travel costs or lodging. I really wonder how "bringing
people together" should work then. What budget do we have for travel
sponsorship?
Let's face it: EMEA is the region that suffers most from the current
budget. We have a proven track record for budget planning and made a
very reasonable and realistic budget. However, we received over 30% less
than what we had requested. We even received less than we've spent last
year, simply because controlling at Red Hat does not work.
And now our premier gets canceled without previous notice and it's
budget gets allocated to an event in NA. Well done!
Actually the "without previous notice" isn't true. It was muted right
from the very beginning of the initial "DoCon" proposal, it was even
discussed in board meetings likely while you were a board member.
First of all I think that something published in a blog hardly counts as
an announcement. People cannot just follow every single block post on
the planet. A major change of policies should be discussed with all
relevant groups and people.
And AFAIR it was supposed to be an additional event, at least it was not
clear if it replaces other events. FUDCon LATAM takes place while EMEA
was canceled. The latest status we in FAmSCo had: FUDCon EMEA was
schedule for fall, possibly in October and as long as it doesn't
conflict with the new event, it will take place.
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It's also not just a NA event, Flock v2/2014 is proposed for Europe.
I know it's supposed to be a global event, but this year it's hosted in
the US and therefor most attendees will be from NA as well. And this in
the very same year that also happens to be the worst fiscal year EMEA
ever had. Very bad timing.
And what do you mean with "proposed"? Traditionally FUDCon bids are
handled by FAmSCo. I'm not saying that FLOCK needs to follow that
process, but if there was a proposal I would have appriciated a
heads'up.
Kind regards,
Christoph
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