[Bug 450061] New: [ro] Create (U+0218..021B, 2011) in Liberation Fonts.

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           Summary: [ro] Create (U+0218..021B,2011)  in Liberation Fonts.
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
          Platform: All
               URL: http://www.secarica.ro
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: low
         Component: kbd
        AssignedTo: vcrhonek(a)redhat.com
        ReportedBy: cchance(a)redhat.com
         QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
                CC: [e-mail],eng-i18n-bugs(a)redhat.com,fedora-fonts-
                    [e-mail],marius.stracna(a)mobexpert.ro


+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #440992 +++

Description of problem:

Glyph request on the codepoint:

- "T with comma below" (Unicode 021A)
- "t with comma below" (Unicode 021B)
- "S with comma below" (Unicode 0218)
- "s with comma below" (Unicode 0219)
- HYPHEN, U+2010
- NON-BREAKING HYPHEN, U+2011

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
kbd-1.12-31.fc9.i386

How reproducible:
Always.

Steps to Reproduce:

1. Install latest Fedora (development)
2. Configure it for Romanian language
3. Go to console by Alt-F1 (not GUI terminals)
4. Press AltGr+s and AltGr+t (and Shift for capitals) to insert the specific
Romanian characters.
  
Actual results:

Expected results:
Characters mentioned should be inserted.

Additional info:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440992

-- Additional comment from razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro on 2008-06-04 02:52 EST --
Hello, Caius & all,

When system is set to Romanian (by anaconda, at install time or via
system-config-language, afterwards), in /etc/sysconfig/i18n we get a line:

SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

Caius, please, do you know from which .rpm package these default fonts come from ?

We must file & resolve a bug regarding the comma/cedilla issue for these default
fonts and I don't know where to adress it, exactly.

This is extremely important, since the "latarcyrheb-sun16" is the first thing
that system "sees" after boot and we've already got some crashes due to
incorrect encoding. In some situations, some programs (including anaconda)
worked OK when set to English, but tracebacks occured when set to Romanian.


Thanks a lot,
Răzvan


-- Additional comment from cchance(a)redhat.com on 2008-06-04 03:41 EST --
Hi Răzvan,

(In reply to comment #20)

Hmm, it looks quite serious, doesn't it?

It's belonged to 'kbd' package in recent Fedora. Please feel free to file
another bug on that package for requesting supports on the issues you kindly
discovered.

Cheers, Caius.

-- Additional comment from alexxed(a)gmail.com on 2008-06-04 05:36 EST --
(In reply to comment #20)
>  Hello, Caius & all,
>  
>  When system is set to Romanian (by anaconda, at install time or via
>  system-config-language, afterwards), in /etc/sysconfig/i18n we get a line:
>  
>  SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
>   
Are you sure? I've installed Fedora 9 i386 and x86_64 several times and
/etc/sysconfig/i18n looks like this:

LANG="ro_RO.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="Lat2-Terminus16"

I did use the graphical installer all the time. It may be only in text mode,
I'll test this.

Meantime here's a list of related bugs where this was addressed:

- comments 23 and 24 in bug 253892

- bug list:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?version=&component=anaconda&a...
before opening a new bug.





-- Additional comment from razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro on 2008-06-04 07:48 EST --
Sorry, my fault !

All systems I have at hand, running F9, were *upgraded* from F8, not fresh
installs. So Terminus is now, in F9, the default font when setting system to
Romanian ?


However:

- changing the default font is just a temporary solution, IMHO.
"latarcyrheb-sun16" should also include the correct glyphs for the Romanian
language;

- when upgrading a (*Romanian*) system from F8 to F9, why don't we change that
line in /etc/sysconfig/i18n during the upgrade itself ? Is that the correct
behaviour ?

- as for the keyboard configurator (system-config-keyboard, in both X and text
mode), it seems it dissapeared from the System menu, in F9. And I see no
replacement for it...


Regards,
Răzvan







-- Additional comment from razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro on 2008-06-04 07:51 EST --
Regarding comment #23, probably the correct behaviour at point no. 2 is to leave
that line alone, but have the correct glyphs in "latarcyrheb-sun16"  ;-)

Regards,
Răzvan

-- Additional comment from alexxed(a)gmail.com on 2008-06-04 08:00 EST --
(In reply to comment #23)
>  Sorry, my fault !
>  
>  All systems I have at hand, running F9, were *upgraded* from F8, not fresh
>  installs. So Terminus is now, in F9, the default font when setting system to
>  Romanian ? 
Yes, it was the quick solution.

>  
>  
>  However:
>  
>  - changing the default font is just a temporary solution, IMHO.
>  "latarcyrheb-sun16" should also include the correct glyphs for the Romanian
>  language; 
I head that Fedora is planning to convert the X fonts to terminal fonts and drop
all the terminal fonts, so maybe it's worth investigating this first.

>  
>  - when upgrading a (*Romanian*) system from F8 to F9, why don't we change that
>  line in /etc/sysconfig/i18n during the upgrade itself ? Is that the correct
>  behaviour ? 
I'm afraid so, rpm upgrade keeps existing configuration.

>  
>  - as for the keyboard configurator (system-config-keyboard, in both X and text
>  mode), it seems it dissapeared from the System menu, in F9. And I see no
>  replacement for it... 
Search bugzilla or ask in the mailing list what plans are there for
system-config-keyboard and system-config-language in the future.

Here is a link: http://translate.fedoraproject.org/module/ that you can use to
find out where to report a bug to a component. Click on the module you want and
see a link to report a bug


-- Additional comment from nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net on 2008-06-04 08:11 EST --
(In reply to comment #25)
>  (In reply to comment #23) 
>  > However:
>  > 
>  > - changing the default font is just a temporary solution, IMHO.
>  > "latarcyrheb-sun16" should also include the correct glyphs for the
> Romanian
>  > language;
>  
>  I head that Fedora is planning to convert the X fonts to terminal fonts and drop
>  all the terminal fonts, so maybe it's worth investigating this first. 
As far as I know what's planned is conversion of X keyboard layouts to console
layouts. I doubt converting complex vector TTF/OTF fonts to dumb bitmap console
fonts is possible without major human involvment.


-- Additional comment from cchance(a)redhat.com on 2008-06-04 20:38 EST --
FYI, The font Alexandru mentioned is also within same console font package:

$ rpm -qf /lib/kbd/consolefonts/Lat2-Terminus16.psf.gz
kbd-1.12-31.fc9.i386

I agree Nicolas about converting complex vector TTF/OTF fonts to dumb bitmap
console fonts. Even if the TTF/OTF embedded bitmap glyphs, font style
consistency/readability might also be an issue.

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