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Reminder: REVIEWED keyword at bugzilla.fedora.us
by Michael Schwendt 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

I've noticed that some people started reviewing eachother's packages in order to get productive. Please note that you can set the REVIEWED bugzilla keyword to mark tickets, which have got one review, and also query bugzilla for other tickets with that keyword. Short link here: http://tinyurl.com/4tdu8 With that system it's easier to meet the publish criteria. http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageSubmissionQAPolicy#review I've also seen some Fedora Legacy people using the keyword, too, so checking out those tickets, if you want to help Fedora Legacy, could be worthwhile. Fedora Legacy uses a separate "Product" in bugzilla, choose "Fedora Legacy" when querying the database. -- Fedora Core release 1 (Yarrow) - Linux 2.4.22-1.2199.nptl loadavg: 1.45 0.74 0.58

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The DRBL project (Wsa Re: "Stateless Linux" project)
by Steven Shiau 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Hi... We run a project called DRBL (Diskless Remote Boot in Linux) . The website is http://drbl.nchc.org.tw (Traditional Chinese) and http://drbl.sf.net (English). Maybe someone can have a look at that, some part of DRBL are similar to this Stateless Linux project. DRBL runs well on RedHat, Fedora, Mandrake and Debian. In Taiwan, more than 100 sites already downloaded and run DRBL, some of them are schools (Primary/High school/University), some of them are NPO and buisness companies. check this: http://drbl.nchc.org.tw/sites/98_DRBL%A8%CF%A5%CE%AA%CC%A4%C0%A7G/DRBL%A8%C… Also, there is a program comes with DRBL called "Clonezilla". It can let people to massively clone the system image to the harddisk of client computers. The function of clonezilla is quite similar to the Symantec Ghost Corporate Edition®. For more information about clonezilla, check this: http://clonezilla.sf.net (English) and http://drbl.nchc.org.tw/clonezilla.php (Traditional Chinese) > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:04:48 +0200 > From: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm(a)ATrpms.net> > Subject: Re: "Stateless Linux" project > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > <fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com> > Message-ID: <20040913230448.GG20176(a)neu.physik.fu-berlin.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 02:42:35PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Red Hat engineering is starting a new project we're calling >>"stateless Linux" for lack of a better name - some components of this >>are already in Rawhide, and others will be appearing shortly. >> >>We've been keeping the project a little bit quiet at first, but now >>we've written it up in some detail: >> >> - an overview document, available from >> http://people.redhat.com/~hp/stateless/ >> >> - a HOWTO document and a couple associated RPMs, available from >> http://people.redhat.com/dmalcolm/stateless/ >> >>There aren't many new RPMs for this, because stateless Linux isn't a >>single codebase or package, it's a set of changes across the >>distribution (you might think of it as a "philosophy"). Most of the >>changes are already in Rawhide (the highlights are mentioned in the >>StatelessLinux.pdf document). >> >>Appreciate feedback, especially from anyone who has time to try out >>the HOWTO. We expect the code to change quite a bit as issues and >>suggestions come in. > > > It looks very promising, and reminds in part of fai, the Debian > installer with centralised (and CVS managed) host configuration. Could > some parts of fai (like the class based configuration file repository) > be taken over? -- Say YES to Openoffice.org (www.openoffice.org, openoffice.nchc.org.tw). Please AVOID distributing documents in WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT format. [Chinese Big5] 請避免散佈WORD, EXCEL 或是 POWERPOINT格式的檔案. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html and http://www.cyut.edu.tw/~ckhung/a/c_91.shtml ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Shiau [Chinese Big5] 蕭志榥 NCHC [Chinese Big5] 國家高速網路與計算中心 E-mail: steven _at_ nchc.org.tw; steven _at_ stick.idv.tw

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rawhide report: 20040911 changes
by Build System 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Updated Packages: crypto-utils-2.1-1 ------------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 2.1-1 - add /usr/bin/certwatch - support --days argument to genkey (#131045) desktop-backgrounds-2.0-22 -------------------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Elliot Lee <sopwith(a)redhat.com> 2.0-22 - Update the default background. devlabel-0.48.03-5 ------------------ * Thu Sep 09 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 0.48.03-5 - fix typo in filelist dhcp-3.0.1-8 ------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> 7:3.0.1-8 - Fix bug 131212: - If "deny booting" is defined for some group of hosts, - then after one of those hosts is denied booting, all - hosts are denied booting, because of a pointer not being - cleared in the lease record. - An upstream patch was obtained which will be in dhcp-3.0.2 . * Mon Aug 16 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> 7:3.0.1-7 - Forward DNS update by client was disabled by a bug that I - found in code where 'client->sent_options' was being - freed too early. - Re-enabled it after contacting upstream maintainer - who confirmed that this was a bug (bug #130069) - - submitted patch dhcp-3.0.1.preserve-sent-options.patch. - Upstream maintainer informs me this patch will be in dhcp-3.0.2 . * Tue Aug 03 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> 6:3.0.1-6 - Allow 2.0 kernels to obtain default gateway via dhcp esound-0.2.35-2 --------------- * Tue Sep 07 2004 John (J5) Palmieri <johnp(a)redhat.com> - Add 64bit_install patch to make the LD_PRELOAD does not refrence different directories on a 64bit install. This causes parallel install errors. firstboot-1.3.23-1 ------------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Adrian Likins <alikins(a)redhat.com> - 1.3.23-1 - fix for finish screen - ignore modules that throw exceptions on import (#129532 and other variations of "firstboot doesnt start) imlib-1.9.13-21 --------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - security fixes initscripts-7.80-1 ------------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> - 7.80-1 - fix IPv6 6to4 & NAT (#118928, <pb(a)bieringer.de>, <pekkas(a)netcore.fi>) * Fri Sep 10 2004 Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.com> - 7.79-1 - load ctc device config after /etc/sysconfig/network so that GATEWAY doesn't get overwritten lha-1.14i-17 ------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 1.14i-17 - security vulnerabilities CAN-2004-0769, CAN-2004-0771, CAN-2004-0694, CAN-2004-0745 libgda-1.0.4-2 -------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 1:1.0.4-2 - %defattr mkinitrd-4.1.11-1 ----------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 4.1.11-1 - more fixing nautilus-2.7.92-3 ----------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.7.92-3 - Don't require eject on s390(x), since there is none (#132228) * Tue Sep 07 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.7.92-2 - Add patch to fix desktop keynav (#131894) openswan-2.1.4-6 ---------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> - 2.1.4-6 - don't run by default - don't create/chmod directories in %post, just include them with the right perms - fix debuginfo - fix docs php-4.3.8-11 ------------ * Thu Sep 09 2004 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 4.3.8-11 - don't use --with-regex=system, it's ignored for apache* SAPIs privoxy-3.0.3-5 --------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 3.0.3-5 - don't run by default (again :) ) quagga-0.96.5-2 --------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 0.96.5-2 - don't run by default rpmdb-fedora-2.91-0.20040911 ---------------------------- selinux-policy-strict-1.17.12-1 ------------------------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.12-1 - Add media context file - Add ncsd.te to targeted policy selinux-policy-targeted-1.17.12-1 --------------------------------- * Thu Sep 09 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.17.12-1 - Add media context file - Add ncsd.te to targeted policy ttmkfdir-3.0.9-14 ----------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Yu Shao <yshao(a)redhat.com> 3.0.9-14 - bug #100560, requires zlib-devel rather than zlib udev-030-24 ----------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 030-24 - check if SELINUX is not disabled before executing setfiles (bug 132099) yp-tools-2.8-7 -------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Steve Dickson <SteveD(a)RedHat.com> - removed the call to yp_master() since the better fix was to make ypserv return the error status in a way that the client notices it. * Tue Aug 31 2004 Steve Dickson <SteveD(a)RedHat.com> - Added a yp_master() call to ypcat so the existance of that map can be determined and the correct error can be returned when it does not. (bz 124557)

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RFC: extra kernel module install locations
by Ville Skyttä 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

There are various practices around about where to install extra kernel modules, I thought I'd throw in a quick RFC about what people think is the best practice, and why. Some alternatives off the cuff: 0) Somewhere directly below /lib/modules/$uname, in a per-package subdir. 1) A suitable location below /lib/modules/$uname/kernel. 2) /lib/modules/$uname/updates, mirroring the dir structure from /lib/modules/$uname/kernel as applicable. 3) Same as 2), but s/updates/$something_else_than_updates/. 4) As long as it Just Works(tm), does not matter. 5) Insert your favourite here. Status of how things seem to be "out there" currently, based on a very brief look: - fedora.us: both 0 (for thinkpad) and 1 (for alsa) - livna.org, Dag, freshrpms (FC1/alsa only checked): 1 - ATrpms: 2 - CCRMA uses something that doesn't fit 100% any of the above, but I guess 2 would be the closest. My .02€ of the above: 0) Yuck, gets messy. 1) IMO shouldn't use "kernel" for stuff that is not included in kernel distributed by the kernel vendor. 2) My #1 pick as of now, maybe, depending on 3) below. 3) Is this better or worse than 2)? Dunno. Is "updates" the only dir that Just Works in earlier distro versions? Is using "updates" more or less likely to cause conflicts than "extra" or something else? Is it a bad thing to put all these extra modules to "updates", when the vast majority of them are not updates per se, but "new" modules instead (in the sense that they're not included in the vendor's kernel)? 4) I would feel more comfortable with some kind of documented guidelines or best practices, for consistency. Comments?

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Re: "Stateless Linux" project
by Daniel Bradley 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

Hi, This seems similar in concept to what I have been working on for a while under the guise of Securizant Linux (sourceforge.net/projects/securizant). An adaption of LFS, but a root file system disk image is built, which is then mounted (via loopback) read-only during the boot process. This image is never modified during the life-cycle of the OS. There are scripts that will build the system currently in the sourceforge CVS that you may care to look at. They make use of a precompiled tools.iso toolchain image (500MB) that I can make available if you want. Feel free to email me for more info. Cheers, Daniel Bradley.

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Self-Introduction: Andy Grover
by Andrew Grover 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

1. Full legal name Andrew Grover 2. Country, City Beaverton Oregon, USA 3. Profession or Student status Professional 4. Company or School Intel (btw I'm not here in a work capacity) * Which packages do you want to see published? latest oprofile, cervisia, rapidsvn, netperf, nttcp * Do you want to do QA? I certainly will file bugs when stuff is broken... * What other projects have you worked on in the past? Lots of ACPI and irq-related kernel work, submitted bugs against RH/Mozilla etc. in the past too. Doing network profiling, lately, and finding it sure would be nice if Fedora came with all the stuff I use. * What computer languages and other skills do you know? C, C++, a little perl, python etc. GPG KEYID and fingerprint pub 1024D/01386173 2004-09-13 Andy Grover <andy(a)groveronline.com> Key fingerprint = 74E0 BCDF D98F 7F18 E21B 8411 50E1 7443 0138 6173 sub 1024g/BC0F2B6B 2004-09-13 Regards -- Andy

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Re: the fate of firewire
by Pete Zaitcev 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:34 +0200 Arjan van de Ven <arjanv(a)redhat.com> wrote: > We already disabled firewire in smp kernels for this, but I fear that if > things don't improve really soon that firewire becomes unkeepable for UP > kernels as well..... Al was going to have a look at Firewire. Did it happen or he had no time? -- Pete

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vsftpd.conf
by James Harrison 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Hi all, Im not sure is this is a security hole, but I have Ferdora Core 2 loaded on my machine and the vsftpd.conf shows: anonymous_enable=YES If its Very Secure then surely anonymous_enable=NO allowing only local users to connect. James Harrison __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Fedora Core 3 Schedule Update - Test 2 Delayed
by Bill Nottingham 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Due to various issues with candidate trees so far, Test 2 has been pushed out one week, to September 20th. Updated schedule is at: http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ Bill

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rawhide report: 20040913 changes
by Build System 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.2-2 -------------------- * Sat Sep 11 2004 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> 0.2-2 - Require gnome-panel, not gnome-panel-devel - Turn off by default bind-9.2.4rc7-12 ---------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 10:9.2.4rc7-12_EL3 - Fix bug 132303: if ROOTDIR line was replaced after upgrade from - bind-chroot-9.2.2-21, restart named * Wed Sep 08 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 10:9.2.4rc7-11_EL3 - Fix bug 131803: replace ROOTDIR line removed by broken - bind-chroot 9.2.2-21's '%postun'; added %triggerpostun for bind-chroot * Tue Sep 07 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 10:9.2.4rc7-10_EL3 - Fix bugs 130121 & 130981 for RHEL-3 glibc-2.3.3-51 -------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 Jakub Jelinek <jakub(a)redhat.com> 2.3.3-51 - update from CVS - disable one of the malloc double free checks for non-contiguous arenas where it doesn't have to be true even for non-broken apps * Thu Sep 09 2004 Jakub Jelinek <jakub(a)redhat.com> 2.3.3-50 - update from CVS - pwd/grp/host loops with nscd speed up by sharing the nscd cache r/o with applications - inexpensive double free check in free(3) - make NPTL pthread.h initializers usable even from C++ (BZ #375) - use atomic instructions even in i386 nscd on i486+ CPUs (conditionally) gtk2-2.4.9-7 ------------ * Fri Sep 10 2004 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.4.9-7 - backport support for PangoLogAttr.backspace_deletes_character mailman-2.1.5-19 ---------------- * Fri Sep 10 2004 John Dennis <jdennis(a)redhat.com> 3:2.1.5-19 - add il18n start/stop strings to init.d script * Fri Sep 10 2004 John Dennis <jdennis(a)redhat.com> 3:2.1.5-18 - fix bug #89250, add condrestart also fix status return values in mailmanctl and init.d script rhgb-0.12.6-1 ------------- * Sat Sep 11 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.12.6 - fix the X keyboard setting before launching firstboot #100686 * Fri Sep 10 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.12.5 - fix part of the patch for xinerama which hung firstboot #128003 * Thu Sep 09 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.12.4 - move rhgb out of /initrd to /etc/rhgb fixes #117575 rpmdb-fedora-2.91-0.20040913 ----------------------------

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